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It is not just a convention anymore than bipedal locomotion is a "convention". It is built into social animals.

Even ANTS have "proper behavior" modes. Social animals across the spectrum have "rules" which ensure that social group is stable.

And, again, for the zillionth time there IS NOT OBJECTIVE MORALITY.



I honestly don't know how to dumb it down sufficiently for you. I've explained it about a billion times to you how it works and why.

The fact that you DENY BIOLOGY is only a problem for you.



And we as the rest of the world can support the work of Ukraine to STOP that. We can and have taken action AGAINST Russia (except for your president Trump who likes Putin)



Unless you want to exist. If that's the case then electrons are quarks are EXTREMELY valuable.
ng about the absolute evil he was witnessing.


Do you ever engage with the actual person or do you just make up stories and accuse others of things?



Lie. But then your morality seems to accept lies and mischaracterizations of others as "virtue".



It is not. But unlike you I have a reason. I don't just believe God because mommy told me to believe God.



STOP GODWINING THE THREAD. I can and do, fully within my proposed moral structure say that it is wrong. It's been explained to you so many times I have to assume at this point that you are mentally challenged and the words are too big for you.

I knew you would eventually start retreating and moonwalking backwards away from moral relativism, and try in some convoluted way to prove you believe in objective morality.
 
And AMERICAN LAW SUPPORTED BY THE VARIOUS CHURCHES IN THE SOUTH MADE SLAVERY LEGAL.

So what was it about CHRISTIANITY that allowed them to believe Slavery was a virtue?????
Scream in CAPS all you want, but it doesn't make your claim any less preposterous that you restrain yourself from murder, rape, stealing, cheating because you are carefully thinking about how to "stabilize society".
 
I knew you would eventually start retreating and moonwalking backwards away from moral relativism, and try in some convoluted way to prove you believe in objective morality.
building high trust societies, evidenced by collective flourishing, is objective morality.

only nazi eugenicist humanity haters promote otherwise.

:nolovejesus:
 
Even ANTS have "proper behavior" modes! Social animals across the spectrum have "rules"
The law of the jungle is not equivalent to proper human moral conscience.

Ants are designed to propagate their genetic information by maintaining and protecting the queen.

They are not sacrificing their resources to help competitor ants and non-kin groups of ants.

Ants have no abstract concept of beneficence or justice.

There is no scientific Darwinian evolutionary benefit to sacrificing your tribe's resources to help competitors, rivals, strangers, the terminally diseased and disabled. That requires a moral conscience.
 
Nazis have nihilistically devalued human life!
If we are nothing except collections of quarks and electrons, it is delusional to claim every human life has inherent and innate value. You're lying to yourself.

You can claim it is your opinion that your life has innate value. But that doesn't change the fact you are only a finite collection of subatomic particles.

In your worldview of moral relativism, there is nothing objectively wrong for the Nazis to decide their sociey would benefit from the liquidation of inferior life forms like you, the physically disabled, and the mentally retarded.

It's only your opinion that it's wrong.
 
If we are nothing except collections of quarks and electrons, it is delusional to claim every human life has inherent and innate value. You're lying to yourself.

You can claim it is your opinion that your life has innate value. But that doesn't change the fact you are only a collection of subatomic particles.

In your worldview of moral relativism, there is nothing objectively wrong for the Nazis to decide their sociey would benefit from the liquidation of inferior life forms like you, the physically disabled, and the mentally retarded.
no. the golden rule goes to everyone, all humans. you keep ignoring this.

and yes. you're a nihilist Nazi.

we have established this.

you are an enemy of human life.
 
no. the golden rule goes to everyone!
Golden rule is a religious moral concept, not a scientific Darwinian concept.

Hardly anyone on this board practices the Golden Rule. You can't be on this board for 30 minutes without being insulted, demeaned, threatened.

That right there tells you the Golden Rule is something we naturally resist. It's not a principle of science we naturally practice.
Even if our conscience tells us it's what we ought to do.
 
Golden rule is a religious moral concept, not a scientific Darwinian concept.
there's nothing religious or supernatural about reciprocal treatment of others.

if Jesus said 2+2=4 would you say math was religious?

Hardly anyone on this board practices the Golden Rule. You can't be on this board for 30 minutes without being insulted, demeaned, threatened.

That right there tells you the Golden Rule is something we naturally resist.
Even if our conscience tells us it's what we ought to do.
as I do not care if it is done to me.

there are still pussies who are too sensitive.

that is not victimhood.
 
there's nothing religious or supernatural about reciprocal treatment of others.

if Jesus said 2+2=4 would you say math was religious?


as I do not care if it is done to me.

there are still pussies who are too sensitive.

that is not victimhood.
You never practice the Golden Rule.

You have spent two decades on this board indulging in insults, foul mouthed belligerence, unrelenting belittlement.

That right there tells you the Golden Rule is something you and almost everyone else on this board resists.

It's not a scientific principle that everyone just naturally practices.
 
I knew you would eventually start retreating and moonwalking backwards away from moral relativism, and try in some convoluted way to prove you believe in objective morality.

Jesus you are dishonest in a debate. (Honestly, Cy, this is all the more evidence that you would have FLAMED OUT in grad school. You can't defend your own position so you just lie about the opposition.

Wow. I knew you weren't that sharp but this is low-intellect behavior.

Engage with the point or leave. But don't be dishonest.
 
You never practice the Golden Rule.

You have spent two decades on this board indulging in insults, foul mouthed belligerence, unrelenting belittlement.

zero actual victims, karen.

you're a fucking Nazis who devalues human life.
That right there tells you the Golden Rule is something you and almost everyone else on this board resists.

It's not a scientific principle that everyone just naturally practices.
cooperative species advantage is science.

its the nature of human evolution specifically.

your hate will be extinguished from earth.

Jesus will heart fuck you with his rod of love, against your will.

and you will thank him for it.

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The law of the jungle is not equivalent to proper human moral conscience.

I didn't say it was, fuckwit. I said SOCIAL ANIMALS ALL SHARE A COMMON BEHAVIOR IN HAVING RULES FOR THE SOCIAL GROUP.

Ants are designed to propagate their genetic information by maintaining and protecting the queen.

And humans are designed to propagate their genetic material as well. (Are you really a Creationist? YOu seem to hate evolution as much as you hate atheism)

They are not sacrificing their resources to help competitor ants and non-kin groups of ants.

Ants have no abstract concept of beneficence or justice.

There is no scientific Darwinian evolutionary benefit to sacrificing your tribe's resources to help competitors, rivals, strangers, the terminally diseased and disabled. That requires a moral conscience.

But belief in magical fairies you can't see that beam the truth into your mind, that has scientific evidence?
 
If you and virtually no one else on this board consistently practices the Golden Rule, then there is no way can it be a scientific law of nature everyone just naturally practices.
its not always natural.

but our evolution is characterized by trying and succeeding.

its hard to do sometimes, and that's why we have laws.

to go back to your religious framework, we are all sinners, but we keep trying.

you nihilist Nazis want to abandon trying and just kill everybody because you have a dysgenic ideology created by Satan.
 
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