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Buzzword fallacy. That won't work, Hugo.
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Science is not a prize.
Science is not a research program.
Science is not government funding, Murphy.
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Science is not a prize, Cyborg.
fuck you
Seems pathetic.
JPP is literally the only place in the world I've ever had people tell me that having Nobel laureates is basically unimportant, insignificant, or pathetic.
A university that consistently maintains and produces Nobel laureates typically gets access to the best grant funding, has the best research labs, and recruits the best and most promising grad students.
Just in the sciences.
I have attended several universities and I never heard anyone, ever, talk about who won the Nobel Prize.
Medicine and economics.
Mathematics has the prestigious Fields prize, and I'm sure humanities have their own prestigious professional awards which add to the prestige of a university.
Undergraduates typically have limited contact with Nobel laureates. Laureates are usually important enough to mainly be supervising graduate students, managing labs, teaching graduate seminars.
The vast majority of colleges do not have Nobel laureate. And only the most elite students generally will ever have an opportunity to work with a Nobel laureate, so naturally most undergraduates are not explicitly talking about Nobel laureates. At Kansas State U. and University of Maine it's a non-issue.
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I looked up the the most prestigious award for the social sciences, the Holberg Prize, and once again recent Holberg laureates are found at elite universities in the US and Europe - Harvard, Columbia, Oxford, University of Chicago.
Universities in Texas, South, and rural west do not seem to be represented in any significant quantity, aka Alabama University, Idaho State, LSU.
Universities in Texas, South, and rural west do not seem to be represented in any significant quantity, aka Alabama University, Idaho State, LSU.
Never heard of it.
News to me. Never heard of anyone going to a university because a Nobel winner was there.
Good.
You won't if you attend average, middling, even decent universities. West Virginia University, University of Delaware, and your local community college do not have Nobel laureates, and it's a non-issue to students attending those colleges.
Where it matters is at elite institutions where Nobel laureates attract the best graduate students, attract the best grant funding, and maintain the best labs. It matters to elite students and elite institutions. It's not an accident that the nation's best scientists and economists typically come from Caltech, Berkeley, MIT, University of Chicago; institutions with an impressive legacy of Nobel laureates. There is a reason they aren't coming from New Mexico State and Kentucky University.
Nobel laureates rarely teach or have grad students. That's the whole point.
But you also aren't on the faculty recruiting committees of a major American university. They undoubtedly put a premium price on recruiting faculty who are Fields laureates or Holberg prize laureates.
I guarantee you any serious graduate student in mathematics has heard of the Fields Prize.
I guess. First, it has nothing to do with topic. Second, seems like a boring thing to talk about.
Nobel laureates in physics and chemistry are training the next generation of America's best scientists, and that includes mentoring and teaching their graduate students.
I would not know. But usually top professors are hired to do research and not be bothered by students.
Nobel laureates are totally relevant to a thread on higher education, and Nobel laureates are a better topic than the gossip, insults, and craven political propaganda that dominates discussion on this board.