Moral relativism

IBDaMann said:
I know of women who believe the practice is crucial to preventing precious daughters from becoming whores. For FGM to be universally immoral, you have to talk to those women first. Until then, you don't have universal agreement that there is even harm.
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My wife is a teacher and the parents of one of her students thought it was important to restrain her arms with belts and beat her.

Are they moral?
 
ZenMode said:
The question I asked was "Do you agree that FGM is universally immoral because of the harm it causes teenage girls?"

You said no.

I asked why.

That's where we are.
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No, I asked you to explain how morality is different from ethics.
 
Hume said:
I do not see how morality can be forced on people. Law can.
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Morality is generally forced via laws.

But, that wasn't the question. The question was "Do you agree that FGM is universally immoral because of the harm it causes teenage girls?"

You said No.

I asked why?

So again....why?
 
ZenMode said:
Morality is generally forced via laws.

But, that wasn't the question. The question was "Do you agree that FGM is universally immoral because of the harm it causes teenage girls?"

You said No.

I asked why?

So again....why?
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No such thing as universal morality. It is an invention of Immanuel Kant.
 
Hume said:
No such thing as universal morality. It is an invention of Immanuel Kant.
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Now we've gone full circle.

You said that FGM was immoral because of the harm it does to teenage girls. I agree.

So if FGM harms girls and that harm is what makes the action immoral, when would it be moral to perform the act? When is FGM not harming the girl?
 
ZenMode said:
Now we've gone full circle.

You said that FGM was immoral because of the harm it does to teenage girls. I agree.

So if FGM harms girls and that harm is what makes the action immoral, when would it be moral to perform the act? When is FGM not harming the girl?
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You are conflating something being wrong with an abstract universal principle. And, as I said before, is this a practice in the US?
 
Hume said:
You are conflating something being wrong with an abstract universal principle. And, as I said before, is this a practice in the US?
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If FGM is immoral because of the harm it does to the girl, and FGM harms the girl every time it is performed, how is it not universally immoral?
 
ZenMode said:
If FGM is immoral because of the harm it does to the girl, and FGM harms the girl every time it is performed, how is it not universally immoral?
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Universal morality is a meaningless concept. Where is it practiced? That is the problem for where it occurs. They do it in Niger, so why is that my problem?
 
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