Moral relativism

[Yakuda]

It is the only thing that has to do with color.

I really like when you choose to ignore half the post. Its infantile but its amusing

 

[Hume]

I really like when you choose to ignore half the post. Its infantile but its amusing

I did not ignore it.

 

[Hume]

You realize dont you that when cameras only took pictures in black and white grass was still green. The world wasnt grayscale

Only idiots like you think this is some deep insight.

 

[Yakuda]

Only idiots like you think this is some deep insight.

And only idiots ignore that cameras only "saw" grayscale but that didnt change the actual color of things It would also help if you knew what the fuck "actual" meant.

 

[Hume]

And only idiots ignore that cameras only "saw" grayscale but that didnt change the actual color of things It would also help if you knew what the fuck "actual" meant.

So the human eye sees grass as green. I already said that.

 

[Yakuda]

I did not ignore it.

Of course you did but you dont have any integrity

 

[Hume]

Of course you did but you dont have any integrity

Yet you cannot refute a single thing I say.

 

[Yakuda]

So the human eye sees grass as green. I already said that.

Which post #?

And if someone elses eyes sees grass as blue the grass doesnt change color.

 

[Yakuda]

Yet you cannot refute a single thing I say.

Ive done nothing but and even admitted that color blind people see color differently but the part that your incapable of grasping is the actual color dont change because they perceive it differently

 

[Hume]

Which post #?

And if someone elses eyes sees grass as blue the grass doesnt change color.

Many scientists deny that color is a property of objects.

 

[Hume]

Ive done nothing but and even admitted that color blind people see color differently but the part that your incapable of grasping is the actual color dont change because they perceive it differently

Many scientists deny that color is a property of objects.

 

[Yakuda]

Many scientists deny that color is a property of objects.

Irrelevant but if I paint my driveway green that doesnt make it grass but the driveway is STILL green

 

[Hume]

Ive done nothing but and even admitted that color blind people see color differently but the part that your incapable of grasping is the actual color dont change because they perceive it differently

Color is a function of the human visual system, and is not an intrinsic property. Objects don't have a color, they give off light that appears to be a color.

Color – The Physics Hypertextbook

Color is a function of the human visual system, and is not an intrinsic property. Objects don't have a color, they give off light that appears to be a color.

physics.info

 

[Hume]

Irrelevant

Quit the opposite. The only thing that is relavent.

 

[Yakuda]

Color is a function of the human visual system, and is not an intrinsic property. Objects don't have a color, they give off light that appears to be a color.

Color – The Physics Hypertextbook

Color is a function of the human visual system, and is not an intrinsic property. Objects don't have a color, they give off light that appears to be a color.

physics.info

All true and whatever color appears to be coming off an object is not determined by the eye. What you see can be different than what is.

 

[Yakuda]

Quit the opposite. The only thing that is relavent.

My green driveway isnt grass but its still green no matter what you see. If a schizophrenic sees George Washington in their living room you know George washington isnt actually there right?

 

[murph63]

It absolutely is an opinion. Your subjective opinion.

This has already been described to you. I'm curious why you think that it is just an "opinion" that random murder doesn't destabilize a social network.

Are you a psychopath?

Other primates living in social networks use violence occasionally or even frequently.

Yes, just like humans. JUST like humans. But often pack animals will NOT MURDER their packmembers. Dogs will viciously correct each other but not kill other pack members.

It is to their benefit in a survival-of-the-fittest Darwinian landscape.

Look, you don't seem to like or understand evolution either. You really must be a god-bothering creationist. Give it a rest.

SURVIVAL is what we are talking about and SOCIAL NETWORKS provide a SURVIVAL ADVANTAGE for social animals. Did you miss that bit in biology?

Chimpanzees, gorillas, baboons will practice infanticide to eliminate the babies of rivals,

Now go and strike Amalek....

or engage in troop warfare and killing to acquire the territory and resources of rival troops. They aren't thinking about the "destabilization of networks".

In a strictly physical materialist worldview there is no universal moral duty to refrain from killing, stealing, or self-interested conquest. The only thing that matters in a scientific Darwinian landscape is to protect and propagate the genetic information of you and your kin group.
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You act as if humans are somehow different from Chimpanzees. Literally everything you mention here we do in spades.

So much for your vaunted "morality" being something beyond space and time and "objective" in any real sense.

 

[murph63]

All true and whatever color appears to be coming off an object is nit determined by the eye. What you see can be different than what is.

Actually it is. Back in the 1930's a group of French researchers produced a system called the "tristimulus system" for color. They presented observers with a color and asked them to mix lights to recreate that color. It helped establish various color systems like the Munsell and Hunter L*a*b* systems.

Color is equal parts physics (wavelength of reflected light) and human visual systems (observer). That's how color theory is taught.

This is the "science" of color.

 

[Yakuda]

This has already been described to you. I'm curious why you think that it is just an "opinion" that random murder doesn't destabilize a social network.

Are you a psychopath?



Yes, just like humans. JUST like humans. But often pack animals will NOT MURDER their packmembers. Dogs will viciously correct each other but not kill other pack members.



Look, you don't seem to like or understand evolution either. You really must be a god-bothering creationist. Give it a rest.

SURVIVAL is what we are talking about and SOCIAL NETWORKS provide a SURVIVAL ADVANTAGE for social animals. Did you miss that bit in biology?



Now go and strike Amalek....



You act as if humans are somehow different from Chimpanzees. Literally everything you mention here we do in spades.

So much for your vaunted "morality" being something beyond space and time and "objective" in any real sense.

The fact we act like animals doesnt mean we are not different than animals

 

[Yakuda]

Actually it is. Back in the 1930's a group of French researchers produced a system called the "tristimulus system" for color. They presented observers with a color and asked them to mix lights to recreate that color. It helped establish various color systems like the Munsell and Hunter L*a*b* systems.

Color is equal parts physics (wavelength of reflected light) and human visual systems (observer). That's how color theory is taught.

This is the "science" of color.

This is the heart of the matter

"Color is equal parts physics (wavelength of reflected light) and human visual systems (observer). That's how color theory is taught."

the observers experience does not physically alter the wavelength of reflected light.