Moral relativism

You really are not that bright. My mistake.
This is the standard leftist view. The belief that you are more sophisticated, philosophical, intelligent, etc is what allows people like you to actually believe that you can't call forcibly cutting the clitoris off of teenage girls wrong and immoral.

Well, you did say it, but rolled it back when you realized it conflicted with your political views.
 
This is the standard leftist view. The belief that you are more sophisticated, philosophical, intelligent, etc is what allows people like you to actually believe that you can't call forcibly cutting the clitoris off of teenage girls wrong and immoral.

Well, you did say it, but rolled it back when you realized it conflicted with your political views.
Why the fuck are you obsessed with clitorectomies! Where are they even done?
 
This has already been described to you. I'm curious why you think that it is just an "opinion" that random murder doesn't destabilize a social network.
When Oskar Schindler risked his life for complete strangers, he wasn't thinking about how he wanted to "stabilize the social network". He was thinking about how his conscience was shocked at witnessing absolute evil.

Many animals who live in social networks will kill members of other troops and packs. Being a social animal does not mean you will refrain from killing, stealing, violence and brutality.
Yes, just like humans. JUST like humans. But often pack animals will NOT MURDER their packmembers. Dogs will viciously correct each other but not kill other pack members.
That's not morality, that's self-interest and reciprocity.

You are not morally praise worthy for cooperating with your kin group. That is hard wired into Darwinian evolution. Slapping the label "morality " on it is just a delusion. Nothing is easier than helping your family, your friends, your kin group. That's not praiseworthy.

You are morally praise worthy when you have exercised a universal moral duty to refrain from killing, lying, cheating, insulting, demeaning, disparaging anyone, even if they are strangers, rivals, people outside your kin group or tribe.
SURVIVAL is what we are talking about and SOCIAL NETWORKS provide a SURVIVAL ADVANTAGE for social animals. Did you miss that bit in biology?
That's not morality. That's Darwinian self interest and reciprocity.
You act as if humans are somehow different from Chimpanzees. Literally everything you mention here we do in spades.
Chimps are vicious and brutal to anyone outside their kin group.

I am satisfied that you have conceded there is no such thing as morality or moral duty, outside of preserving your life and the lives of your kin group and tribe.

Your belief that we should emulate chimpanzee society is revealing.

That is an extremely cynical worldview.
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there is no such thing as morality or moral duty, outside of preserving your life and the lives of your kin group and tribe.
Yet what does Jesus mean by love your neighbor? Is that no a notion of kin.
So we identify with the group primarily.
 
Yet what does Jesus mean by love your neighbor? Is that no a notion of kin.
So we identify with the group primarily.
For Jesus it wasnt a notion of kin. He was kind to a Samaritan woman. Definitely not kin to a jew.
 
Why the fuck are you obsessed with clitorectomies!
They are, as you know, a great example of immoral behavior.
Where are they even done?
All over the world:

Highest Prevalence by Country

According to data from UNICEF Data and the UNFPA, the percentage of women and girls (typically aged 15–49) who have experienced FGM in the most heavily affected countries includes:
    • Somalia: 98%
    • Guinea: 95%–97%
    • Djibouti: 90%–93%
    • Egypt: 91%
    • Mali: 89%–91%
    • Eritrea: 89%
    • Sudan: 88%
    • Burkina Faso: 56%–76%
    • Gambia: 73%–75%
    • Ethiopia: 65%–74%
    • Mauritania: 64%–69%
    • Guinea-Bissau: 45%–52%
 
Yet what does Jesus mean by love your neighbor? Is that no a notion of kin.
So we identify with the group primarily.
Are you familiar with the parable of the good Samaritan?

If you read the Bible, you have to read it responsibly. Collectively, through action, word, and parable, Jesus made it clear we have a moral duty even to outsiders, foreigners, rivals, even enemies.
 
Are you familiar with the parable of the good Samaritan?

If you read the Bible, you have to read it responsibly. Collectively, through action, word, and parable, Jesus made it clear we have a moral duty even to outsiders, foreigners, rivals, even enemies.
Already mentioned but good point
 
They are, as you know, a great example of immoral behavior.

All over the world:

Highest Prevalence by Country

According to data from UNICEF Data and the UNFPA, the percentage of women and girls (typically aged 15–49) who have experienced FGM in the most heavily affected countries includes:
    • Somalia: 98%
    • Guinea: 95%–97%
    • Djibouti: 90%–93%
    • Egypt: 91%
    • Mali: 89%–91%
    • Eritrea: 89%
    • Sudan: 88%
    • Burkina Faso: 56%–76%
    • Gambia: 73%–75%
    • Ethiopia: 65%–74%
    • Mauritania: 64%–69%
    • Guinea-Bissau: 45%–52%
But for hume its a moral good just like rape
 
Jesus also said it's easy to cooperate with and help friends and family. That is not something that is morally praiseworthy.

So the parable of the good Samaritan illustrates that we have a moral duty even to strangers, foreigners, even rivals.
 
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