Moral relativism

[Hume]

Great. Either fix your question so it can be answered or we can just move on.

My question does not need to be fixed. If you do not understand it, ask for explanation.

 

[IBDaMann]

Well, I could pull a "you" and claim things with no support.

That would be a ZenMode Error, like presuming that your opinion Link?
People are people, not links. You'll have to go and talk to them about their opinions being objectively incorrect. I'm not one of those who necessarily holds that opinion. Note the key word "opinion".

The experience of a child ...

... is not the effectively changed behavior. Stay focused. It appears that your "studies" conclude that successful results are unsuccessful because a negative experience is involved. Your studies appear to be heavily flawed and should be discarded.

who's being beat with a board or having their clitoris cut out has nothing to do with my opinion of morality.

What about someone who tortures English grammar?

Do you personally believe that female genital mutilation is immoral?

Do you personally believe that elective cosmetic surgeries are immoral? Do you believe that it is immoral for women to have their ears pierced?

Similarly, do you believe that root canals are immoral? What about bone spur removal?

 

[IBDaMann]

My question does not need to be fixed. If you do not understand it, ask for explanation.

Your question needs to be fixed if you want an answer.

 

[Hume]

Your question needs to be fixed if you want an answer.

You keep claiming I do not want discussion but all you do is write insults and demand I write what you want me to say. That is not discussion.

 

[Hume]

Your question needs to be fixed if you want an answer.

Here is my question: If I tell someone that I see a tree, is that subjective?

 

[Into the Night]

Not with you because you intentionally avoid discussion on the topic.

You currently don't have a topic.

..as I've mentioned. Here, here and here.

You currently don't have a topic.

Now is when you reply with something dumb like 'you were never talking about a topic', then I'll reply with a gif and the circle will continue.

So you don't want to talk about anything. You just want to post.

 

[ZenMode]

Do you personally believe that elective cosmetic surgeries are immoral? Do you believe that it is immoral for women to have their ears pierced?

Similarly, do you believe that root canals are immoral? What about bone spur removal?

Do you personally believe that female genital mutilation is immoral? If you do, why?

 

[Into the Night]

If I see a tree, and a group of 15 people see the same tree, is that subjective?

The tree is an object, therefore objective.
The observation and discussion of the the tree is a subject, therefore subjective.

 

[Hume]

Do you personally believe that female genital mutilation is immoral?

Is that the only moral issue that concerns you?! Let's talk about the US and our moral tenets.

 

[ZenMode]

You currently don't have a topic.

You currently don't have a topic.

So you don't want to talk about anything. You just want to post.

 

[ZenMode]

Is that the only moral issue that concerns you?! Let's talk about the US and our moral tenets.

As I've said before, it's a good example because it's so disturbing.

 

[Hume]

As I've said before, it's a good example because it's so disturbing.

It is a bad example. No one on this discussion is advovation clitorectomies.

 

[Into the Night]

You are being vague and obtuse. Is the subject your activity and perception, or is the subject the tree, independent of whether or not it is seen?

I clarified this. The tree itself is an object, therefore objective. It can be measured, therefore quantitative.

The observation of the tree is subjective. The discussion of the tree is subjective. It simply is the subject of the observation or conversation, therefore subjective.

 

[Into the Night]

So if I see a tree and others see a tree, I am being objective. Correct?

You are conflating again.

The tree is an object, therefore objective.
The observation and conversation about the tree is subjective.

 

[Into the Night]

Writing insults is not having a discussion. This is YOUR problem.

YOUR argument of the Stone fallacy is not an insult by IBDaMann or anybody else. Redefinition fallacy.

 

[Hume]

You are conflating again.

The tree is an object, therefore objective.
The observation and conversation about the tree is subjective.

ou are conflating again.

The tree is an object, therefore objective.
The observation and conversation about the tree is subjective.

 

[Into the Night]

My question does not need to be fixed.

Yes it does. You are conflating objective vs subjective in the same question.

If you do not understand it, ask for explanation.

RQAA. Go back and read it, Hugo.

 

[Hume]

YOUR argument of the Stone fallacy is not an insult by IBDaMann or anybody else. Redefinition fallacy.

get lost you fucking jerkoff

back to ignore

 

[Into the Night]

Do you personally believe that female genital mutilation is immoral? If you do, why?

Yes. Because of my morals.

 

[ZenMode]

It is a bad example. No one on this discussion is advovation clitorectomies.

Right, but the argument from the moral relativists is that clitorectomies are not objectively immoral. I'm saying, because of the impact on the child, they are objectively immoral and your religion, "race", ethnicity, culture, etc are irrelevant.