Moral relativism

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Yakuda said:
in the top its all bullshit but
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You can't answer any of them?
Yakuda said:
"Do you think it's moral to kill a human being in self defense?" The answer is No but its justifiable
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Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.
Yakuda said:
not controversial at all
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It is.
Yakuda said:
No
No but it can be justifiable
People who dont want to kill can serve in the military
No but could be justifiable
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Your word games won't work. There is no 'justifiable'.

Do you think it is moral to support soldiers that DO kill?
Do you think it is moral to BE the soldiers that DO kill?
Do you think it is moral to fight a war?

Again...it all depends on who you ask.

Yakuda said:
No it doesnt
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Yes it does, Yakuda.
To Democrats supporting abortion, it is moral to kill an unborn child before it is born...even benevolent.
To a gang battling over turf, it is moral to kill a member of a rival gang.
To a farmer, it is moral to eradicate insects destroying his crop.
To a rancher, it is moral to slaughter a chick or a steer.
To a hunter, it is moral to go out and shoot a deer.
To a fisherman, it is moral to go out and kill a fish.
To Biden, it is moral to call for civil war against citizens of the United States.

Do you think it is moral to deport illegal aliens?

Your morals are not the same as Democrats.
Your morals are your own. You are the only one that can establish them.
To each hunter, fisherman, rancher, cop, doctor, veterinarian, gang member, or farmer, they establish their own morals. It is their own. They are not the same as yours.

Each person's set of morals is as unique to them as a fingerprint.
 
Yakuda said:
No according to common sense.
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What is 'common sense'? Your morals?
Yakuda said:
Once you claim morals are personal then you have no justification to tell someone they you cant do X
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But I do. My own morals. That is true for every single person that has established a set of morals, whether they are a gang member, hunter, doctor performing abortions, senator, soldier, police officer, etc.

In case you haven't noticed, the United States is a federated republic. That means representatives are elected in accordance with a constitution.
Your opinion matters, just as everyone else's does. Those opinions are often based on your own personal morals. This is how each of us get a say in what laws are passed or repealed.

It doesn't cancel any else's morals. They still have their say, but they were outvoted, so to speak.
Fortunately, few people have the morals of Jeffrey Dahmer, a cannibal that kept parts of his victims in the refrigerator for lunch. He is deemed a pyschotic and is now serving a life sentence.

Question:
Do you believe it is moral to impose a death penalty?
 
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Into the Night said:
You can't answer any of them?

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

It is.

Your word games won't work. There is no 'justifiable'.

Do you think it is moral to support soldiers that DO kill?
Do you think it is moral to BE the soldiers that DO kill?
Do you think it is moral to fight a war?

Again...it all depends on who you ask.


Yes it does, Yakuda.
To Democrats supporting abortion, it is moral to kill an unborn child before it is born...even benevolent.
To a gang battling over turf, it is moral to kill a member of a rival gang.
To a farmer, it is moral to eradicate insects destroying his crop.
To a rancher, it is moral to slaughter a chick or a steer.
To a hunter, it is moral to go out and shoot a deer.
To a fisherman, it is moral to go out and kill a fish.
To Biden, it is moral to call for civil war against citizens of the United States.

Do you think it is moral to deport illegal aliens?

Your morals are not the same as Democrats.
Your morals are your own. You are the only one that can establish them.
To each hunter, fisherman, rancher, cop, doctor, veterinarian, gang member, or farmer, they establish their own morals. It is their own. They are not the same as yours.

Each person's set of morals is as unique to them as a fingerprint.
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I can answer they are all animals. I'm not z leftists. Animals aren't people.

If you're going to try and equate how we treat animals to humans you aren't serious.
 
Into the Night said:
What is 'common sense'? Your morals?

But I do. My own morals. That is true for every single person that has established a set of morals, whether they are a gang member, hunter, doctor performing abortions, senator, soldier, police officer, etc.

In case you haven't noticed, the United States is a federated republic. That means representatives are elected in accordance with a constitution.
Your opinion matters, just as everyone else's does. Those opinions are often based on your own personal morals. This is how each of us get a say in what laws are passed or repealed.

It doesn't cancel any else's morals. They still have their say, but they were outvoted, so to speak.
Fortunately, few people have the morals of Jeffrey Dahmer, a cannibal that kept parts of his victims in the refrigerator for lunch. He is deemed a pyschotic and is now serving a life sentence.

Question:
Do you believe it is moral to impose a death penalty?
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I don't read your preaching friend. You can waste the time if you like.

Answer:

For the 1000th time no but it could be justified. When you start believing a justified action is a moral action you get the kind of shit we see today where a woman can strangle her three kids and we can't decide if she's guilty not not.
 
ZenMode said:
I'm asking for your opinion.
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Nope. You are asking for an absolute truth presented as a subjective opinion. It's right there in your stupid question. If you weren't too stupid to learn, you'd understand the difference between "subjective" vs. "objective" and "absolute" vs. "relative." You can review the post history and see that I have been trying to teach you ever since you got started on this topic, but alas, you are too stupid to learn. You just keep asking the same stupid question, totally confused as to why "objective" is somehow not "subjective." You refuse to learn the difference; you just allow your eyes to glaze over while you pivot to "I'm just asking your opinion."

Is there anything I can do to help you grasp the difference?

ZenMode said:
I'm asking, if you believe that forceably cutting the clitoris off a teenage girl is immoral, why do YOU have that view?
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This is an entirely different question. I can answer this one.

ZenMode said:
I assume you don't just flip a coin to determine your views on morality, right?
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When did you shift from claiming that clitorectomies were objectively immoral to being subjectively moral.
 
IBDaMann said:
... and it won't be accepted because it's false. Your subjective opinion is not absolute truth.


Relative things are relative. Did you know that there is an entire theory of science on this?
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So there no absolute truth except, "Your subjective opinion is not absolute truth." It's like you people don't even bother to listen to yourselves. You probably shouldn't

LMAO thats like defining a word by using the word in the definition. A car is a car. Ridiculous.
 
Yakuda said:
I can answer they are all animals. I'm not z leftists. Animals aren't people.

If you're going to try and equate how we treat animals to humans you aren't serious.
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Ignoring your post now?
Morals concern animals and humans.

Answer the questions put to you and stop evading.
 
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