Moral relativism

IBDaMann said:
You, sir, are mistaken. I am a moral Relativity-ist. Energy = morality * c^2. Your morality becomes immoral by the right-dilation of my ethical frame of reference. The absolute truth remains the same to all observers, but no observer can ever achieve absolute hero.
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IBDaMann said:
Too funny! ZenMode is declaring that others agree that his subjective morality is absolute universal morality. You can't make this shit up.
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Oh, so you aren't done talking to me... or, as it turns out, you're willing to talk but not answer my question.

Here's Hume's post.

Some things are obviously and objectively immoral. Female Genital Mutilation being one of them. It's immoral because of the experience of the girl being held down and having her clitoris forcibly cut out.
IBDaMann said:
Too funny! How can there be debates about absolute truth? If you have declared something to be an absolute truth, it can't very well be debated now, can it?
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I didn't say every action was objectively moral or objectively immoral. There are some many things that can be disputed. There are others that are objectively immoral because of the experience of the victim. Murder, rape, FGM, etc.
IBDaMann said:
... such as your stupid Climate religion that labels CO2, a life-essential compound as "immoral" and in need of being "reduced."
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Proving that you will go to ANY lengths and deflect to ANY topic to avoid answering my question.
IBDaMann said:
...i.e. your subjective morality, right? I see how this works. Too funny!
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Neither my morality nor your morality nor anyone else's morality changes the experience of the girl being raped. It is that experience that makes the act objectively immoral and no, it doesn't matter what your culture says or your fairytale religious doctrine says, etc...

The reason you won't answer my question is because you know certain acts are objectively immoral and answer my question starts you down a path to having to acknowledge you were wrong.

So you dance!!!

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Into the Night said:
There is no 'universal morality'. There is no absolute morality.

Most likely. Each person's morals are different, and the nature of morals is to tend to assume it is the same for everyone. When it is discovered it isn't, than the debate occurs.

There is no 'universal moral'.
There is no 'absolute moral'.
A law is not a moral.
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Sooooo many words.

Sooooo few answers.

The dancing continues....

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Yakuda said:
"There is no such thing as an absolute moral"
Other than repeating that line incessantly you have offered no evidence to its vracity. Therefore it is an opinion.
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It is a definition. Go learn English. English is not an opinion.
Yakuda said:
When I apply your reasoning, there is no such thing as absolute moral(sic) to opinions,
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An opinion is not a moral.
Yakuda said:
your reasoning makes just as much sense. Please stop acting like a leftist I know better than that with you.
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I'm not acting like a leftist. I am a capitalist and a conservative.
Nothing about that changes the meaning of 'morals'.
Yakuda said:
BTW they arent my morals they are the morals of every mentally healthy person.
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They are your morals. You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.
 
ZenMode said:
Oh, so you aren't done talking to me... or, as it turns out, you're willing to talk but not answer my question.
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Inversion fallacy.
ZenMode said:
Here's Hume's post.

Some things are obviously and objectively immoral. Female Genital Mutilation being one of them. It's immoral because of the experience of the girl being held down and having her clitoris forcibly cut out.

I didn't say every action was objectively moral or objectively immoral. There are some many things that can be disputed. There are others that are objectively immoral because of the experience of the victim. Murder, rape, FGM, etc.
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DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
Illiteracy: subjective used as objective.
An experience is not a moral.
ZenMode said:
Proving that you will go to ANY lengths and deflect to ANY topic to avoid answering my question.
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Inversion fallacy.
ZenMode said:
Neither my morality nor your morality nor anyone else's morality changes the experience of the girl being raped.
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...and...?
ZenMode said:
It is that experience that makes the act objectively immoral and no, it doesn't matter what your culture says or your fairytale religious doctrine says, etc...
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Illiteracy: subjective used as objective.
No fairies are being discussed, except by you.
Void argument fallacy.
Experience is not a moral.
ZenMode said:
The reason you won't answer my question is because you know certain acts are objectively immoral and answer my question starts you down a path to having to acknowledge you were wrong.
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Inversion fallacy.
ZenMode said:
So you dance!!!
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Inversion fallacy.
You cannot blame your problems on anybody else.
 
Into the Night said:
Inversion fallacy.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
Illiteracy: subjective used as objective.
An experience is not a moral.

Inversion fallacy.

...and...?

Illiteracy: subjective used as objective.
No fairies are being discussed, except by you.
Void argument fallacy.
Experience is not a moral.

Inversion fallacy.

Inversion fallacy.

You cannot blame your problems on anybody else.
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So
Many
Words....

So few answers.

Hope you don't pull anything dancing for so long.
 
Into the Night said:
No, it begins with you. Only you can establish your own morals. No one else can.

DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!
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No I didnt "establish" that I dont want to be killed, enslaved, or lied to. Every mentally healthy human being wants to avoid those things.

You can keep repeating in caps all you like but its still just your opinion.
 
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