Even the Israeli Left can see the West is deluded about a two-state solution

Guno צְבִי

Guno צְבִי

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In many ways Hila Fenlon is a symbol of the Israeli of the romantic imagination which just about still exists. A farmer who lives in a small community – a moshav – on the border with Gaza, she is of the Left. She believes in peace.

Her community moved once – from the Sinai desert – when Israel gave up land for peace with Egypt. Now she would willingly give up land for peace again. But she doesn't see that happening any time soon. The moshav Netiv HaAsara, for which she is the community leader, is the closest village to the border in the area known as the Gaza envelope – 400m from Palestinian territory.

On October 7, 2023, Hamas terrorists flew into her kibbutz on paragliders and killed 20 of her community in a bitter fight. Like many in the idealistic socialist communities which surrounded Gaza, Hila is not a fan of prime minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu. The night before we meet she was at a protest against him and she planned to support the centre-Left Democrats in Tuesday's election.


But Hila symbolises how, while this country might be divided on many lines – on Netanyahu himself, the ultra-orthodox refusal of the military draft, judicial reform, the need for an inquiry into the failings of October 7, and extremist settler terrorism – they speak with one voice when it comes to external threats.


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Even the Israeli Left can see the West is deluded about a two-state solution

In many ways Hila Fenlon is a symbol of the Israeli of the romantic imagination which just about still exists. A farmer who lives in a small community – a moshav – on the border with Gaza, she is of t...
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A kibbutz is a fully communal, socialist collective where property, labor, and production are shared, whereas a moshav is a cooperative agricultural village where families own and manage their own private farms and homes while sharing marketing and purchasing resources.

Socialism was never or is curse word in Israel
 
Guno צְבִי said:
In many ways Hila Fenlon is a symbol of the Israeli of the romantic imagination which just about still exists. A farmer who lives in a small community – a moshav – on the border with Gaza, she is of the Left. She believes in peace.

Her community moved once – from the Sinai desert – when Israel gave up land for peace with Egypt. Now she would willingly give up land for peace again. But she doesn't see that happening any time soon. The moshav Netiv HaAsara, for which she is the community leader, is the closest village to the border in the area known as the Gaza envelope – 400m from Palestinian territory.

On October 7, 2023, Hamas terrorists flew into her kibbutz on paragliders and killed 20 of her community in a bitter fight. Like many in the idealistic socialist communities which surrounded Gaza, Hila is not a fan of prime minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu. The night before we meet she was at a protest against him and she planned to support the centre-Left Democrats in Tuesday's election.


But Hila symbolises how, while this country might be divided on many lines – on Netanyahu himself, the ultra-orthodox refusal of the military draft, judicial reform, the need for an inquiry into the failings of October 7, and extremist settler terrorism – they speak with one voice when it comes to external threats.


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Even the Israeli Left can see the West is deluded about a two-state solution

In many ways Hila Fenlon is a symbol of the Israeli of the romantic imagination which just about still exists. A farmer who lives in a small community – a moshav – on the border with Gaza, she is of t...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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I don't see why they don't separate. Isn't the area in question some of the most densely populated area you could find? It also, from the sound of it, has quite a lot of issues, from famine on downward. If they want to leave and be their own nation, what would Israel lose in the long run?
 
Jade Dragon said:
I don't see why they don't separate. Isn't the area in question some of the most densely populated area you could find? It also, from the sound of it, has quite a lot of issues, from famine on downward. If they want to leave and be their own nation, what would Israel lose in the long run?
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Israel left GAZA 10 years ago, they left them with infrastructure , businesses and up until oct 7th furnished them with free water and elenctic, 30,000 gazans cross into israel each day to work, billions given to them and they used it for tunnels and weapons, Egypt wants nothing to do with them as they share a border . Since 1948 and many times since then to establish their own country, they rejected them all. The only thing for them is getting rid of the Jews. How do you deal with people's whose charter calls for your death
 
Egypt's border with Gaza has been razed and everyone moved back about 10 km from the Gaza border to form an open flat landscape with nothing on it. Right at the border, Egypt dug deep, wide trenches that prevent tunnelling into Egypt by Palestinians. Egypt doesn't want them in their country because they fear, rightfully so, that the Palestinians will soon commit terrorist attacks on Egypt.
 
Guno צְבִי said:
Israel left GAZA 10 years ago, they left them with infrastructure , businesses and up until oct 7th furnished them with free water and elenctic, 30,000 gazans cross into israel each day to work, billions given to them and they used it for tunnels and weapons, Egypt wants nothing to do with them as they share a border . Since 1948 and many times since then to establish their own country, they rejected them all. The only thing for them is getting rid of the Jews. How do you deal with people's whose charter calls for your death
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So Israel left them completely to their own devices? If so, they are crumbling by themselves and trying to pin it on others. This proclaimed genocide is really just famine and squalor from being densely populated and wasting money on Hamas terror infrastructure. Unless Israel is marching the streets, they can't make the claims of genocide.
 
Guno צְבִי said:
In many ways Hila Fenlon is a symbol of the Israeli of the romantic imagination which just about still exists. A farmer who lives in a small community – a moshav – on the border with Gaza, she is of the Left. She believes in peace.

Her community moved once – from the Sinai desert – when Israel gave up land for peace with Egypt. Now she would willingly give up land for peace again. But she doesn't see that happening any time soon. The moshav Netiv HaAsara, for which she is the community leader, is the closest village to the border in the area known as the Gaza envelope – 400m from Palestinian territory.

On October 7, 2023, Hamas terrorists flew into her kibbutz on paragliders and killed 20 of her community in a bitter fight. Like many in the idealistic socialist communities which surrounded Gaza, Hila is not a fan of prime minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu. The night before we meet she was at a protest against him and she planned to support the centre-Left Democrats in Tuesday's election.


But Hila symbolises how, while this country might be divided on many lines – on Netanyahu himself, the ultra-orthodox refusal of the military draft, judicial reform, the need for an inquiry into the failings of October 7, and extremist settler terrorism – they speak with one voice when it comes to external threats.


www.yahoo.com

Even the Israeli Left can see the West is deluded about a two-state solution

In many ways Hila Fenlon is a symbol of the Israeli of the romantic imagination which just about still exists. A farmer who lives in a small community – a moshav – on the border with Gaza, she is of t...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com
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Guano, the candidates you support tell you they want to kill you.
 
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