Every Briton should stockpile water and food supplies, government advises

[T. A. Gardner]

And you think the windmills were built and designed using politics?

I think solar and wind as major producers of electrical power are 100% political favorites and have little or no rational value on the basis of sound investments.

 

[AProudLefty]

I think solar and wind as major producers of electrical power are 100% political favorites and have little or no rational value on the basis of sound investments.

How so? Did the inventors factor politics into it? Windmills were invented and created way back then.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Boys At The Duran suspect that this is mostly about justifying slashing social spending and plowing it into rearmament.....or rather trying because it would take at least a decade to get an arms industry up and running....probably more......plus the Europeans (the people) generally dont want war with Russia.......but this far into the collapse of the West what they want barely matters.......they are to do as they are told.

I suspect that the reality is worse.......the Epstein Cabal that runs the dying West demands war......war they will get.

Humanity may or may not survive these demonic fucks.

Dark Ages Suck.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

How so? Did the inventors factor politics into it? Windmills were invented and created way back then.

Politics are a big part of it. Government subsidizing wind and solar, setting mandates for production, and regulating alternatives out of business all for the dubious idea that a miniscule reduction in CO2 emissions will save the planet.

 

[Hawkeye10]

When the Epstein Cabal says that they will be ready for war with Russia in 2030 at the latest they are either lying or insane.

 

[AProudLefty]

Politics are a big part of it. Government subsidizing wind and solar, setting mandates for production, and regulating alternatives out of business all for the dubious idea that a miniscule reduction in CO2 emissions will save the planet.

Back to the original point.

 

[Into the Night]

Once again you are citing out dated data costs for batteries and AS ALWAYS your own cite you post here disputes what you are saying.

His figures are accurate.

The report debunks the idea that grids need traditional baseload plants.

Batteries are not a generating plant, Kewpie.

You also are conflating Residential Prices with Utility-Scale Costs.

Nope. Same price. Lithium, cobalt, and aluminum are the same price per pound regardless of where the battery is used. Batteries are not a generating plant.

The claim that commercial battery storage runs "$290 to $700 a kWh" is factually incorrect for grid-level storage. [1]

Nope. His figure are accurate.

• The Error: The poster is quoting prices for individual home backup systems (like residential solar batteries), which do cost around $400 to $700/kWh due to retail markups and small-scale installation costs. [1, 2]

Same battery. Same price.

• The Reality: Data from energy benchmarks indicates that real turnkey capex for utility-scale grid battery systems has dropped to $100–$150 per kWh

Same battery. Same price.

This massive cost collapse is exactly why grid operators are building them at an unprecedented scale. [1]

What 'cost collapse'?
Grid operators don't build power plants or battery systems.

You information on Germany is spin and lies.

Inversion fallacy.

Germany Proves a Renewable-Heavy Grid Works Better.

It doesn't.
Germany's use of wind power increased electricity costs by 60%.
Natural gas is renewable.
Oil is renewable.

The poster claims Germany tried a smart grid and failed. The official grid infrastructure data proves the exact opposite. [1]

No interconnect generates any power, Kewpie.

• The Data: Renewables supplied over 58% of Germany's electricity consumption. [1]

Nope. About 26%.
It also increased costs by 60%.

• The Reliability: If the poster's claim were true, Germany's grid would be failing.

It is failing.
Germany experiences what are called Dunkelflaute or Dark Doldrums in winter. The Sun is too low to produce solar power, and there is no wind.
That means all that 'green energy' is NOT AVAILABLE when DEMAND IS HIGH.

• However, Germany's SAIDI score (the global standard for measuring annual power outage duration per customer) fell from 12.3 minutes to just 7.1 minutes. [1, 2]
• According to the Federal Network Agency, Germany's grid has become highly automated and "self-healing," boasting a 99.997% annual reliability rate that far outperforms the United States, where the average consumer loses power for over 90 minutes per year. [1, 2]

An interconnect does not generate any power, Kewpie, no matter how 'smart' it is.

And lastly you live by a fallacy.

The "Baseload" Fallacy

Fallacy fallacy. Buzzword fallacy.

The poster’s math assumes that 70% to 80% of a grid's power must come from continuous, unmoving "baseload" plants (like coal or nuclear). Modern grid operators have abandoned this 20th-century mindset.

If it doesn't, the grid is unstable, since it is too dependent on weather.

• Grids do not need plants that run constantly;

Yes they do, Kewpie. You cannot create energy out of nothing.

• they need flexibility.

Flexibility is not measured in watts, Kewpie. Electricity is. 'Flexibility' does not generate a single watt.

• Traditional baseload plants are rigid—they cannot quickly ramp up or down when demand spikes or drops.

They certainly can, and do, as a matter of routine.

• A dynamic grid

Buzzword fallacy.

• balances variable solar and wind with rapid-response battery storage.

Batteries are not a generating plant, Kewpie. They are a LOAD.
In Germany, the sun is too low for solar and there is often no wind.

• Batteries can inject gigawatts of power into a grid in milliseconds during an evening peak, a physical feat that traditional baseload plants cannot achieve. [1]

No, they can't. They MUST synchornize to the grid like everyone else.

All power plants adjust power output second by second. All that's needed.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Remember that repeating lies tends to be a mandatory demonstration of compliance.....for instance when we find generals talking like High Schoolers.......like they have no idea what the world looks like.

They suck, but they are not THAT dumb.

They are demonstrating submission to the narrative sold by power, they are saying "I am on the team, I will say what ever I am told to say, I will do what ever I am told to do".

 

[Into the Night]

And he is just flat out wrong in everything he is posting and is posting citations that directly contradict what he is saying while pretend they are proof.

Inversion fallacy.

There simply is no question any more that a mix of Renewables with traditional energy sources improves most grids in almost all ways. Cost, reliability, peek needs, and redunancy.

Natural gas is renewable.
Oil is renewable.
They are also both reliable.

Solar isn't reliable. It produces very little power when it DOES work.
Wind generators aren't reliable. They produce very little power when they DO work.

No one is forcing Texas to push ahead and be a world leader in this area.

You are.

Investment dollars flow in despite Trump trying to stop it and penalize it.

Subsidy is not investment. It is subsidy...communism.

All the Data from the State, the Research Universities and Grid Operator cite how renewables have not just made the costs cheaper for all Texans but made the grid much more reliable.

Synthesis.
The TRIC is VERY reliable, even despite it's size. Nothing to do with wind turbines that don't work in icing conditions or solar plants that don't work in icing conditions.

What Terry has to say to that is 'not reading that... nuh uh, i disagree' and then posts lies about Germany as his rebuttal. He wants us to ignore what is happening in Texas and says so.

YOU are ignoring what's happening in Texas, Kewpie.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Back to the original point.

Which was? Maybe that politicians are idiots and they do stupid things?

 

[Hawkeye10]

I have told the story of how the Brits decided to build new tanks.....figured out that they cant because they no longer have the manufacturing base......so then they decided to remanufacture tanks....then figured out that they cant even do that.

These are the people who are sure that they can beat the Russians at war.

 

[AProudLefty]

Which was? Maybe that politicians are idiots and they do stupid things?

You claimed that the inventors did it on politics.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The entire British Army would be far away from being able to fill a football stadium...These are the people who are sure that they will be ready to beat the Russians in 2030 along with Europe.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Brits....more Admirals than ships on the roster (far more than functioning ships).....and more Generals than functioning tanks.

These are the people who are going to beat the Russians.