12% of British adults are holocaust deniers!!!

[christiefan915]

Anyone who thinks the holocaust didn't happen is the lowest of the low. Therefore that means 90% of republiKKKans are the lowest of the low. If It was up to me I'd send all the holocaust deniers to Auschwitz to see first hand what happened when a far right white supremacist took over a continent. And I am talking about Hitler and not his No. 1 fan , Drumpf. Yes I am using his correct GERMAN surname.

We've had Holocaust deniers on this forum for years. And the worst of them claim that Auschwitz was similar to a vacation spot, with swimming pools, charming cabins and no gas chambers.

Take a look at any thread by banned poster "fandango." He posts this kind of crap, gets banned, and sneaks back under another name. He's always found out but still manages to post his dreck before the banning.

The Holocaust LIE!

 

[cawacko]

I've known a few people who were in the camps, and several soldiers who were at the liberation. Some of the facts about numbers are muddled by the conditions of the time and Zionist propaganda, but crazy conspiracy theory it is certainly not: an awful lot of people died, and it wasn't any kind of accident.

What facts would you point to as zionist propaganda?

 

[MSgt]

It's probably just a way of objecting to Zionist dominance of the media or something, just as brexit has little to do with the EU. If you shut down political discussion you get this sort of thing.

Makes perfect sense.

 

[MSgt]

Not in the least surprised to see a rightwinger, a Trump-lover denying the Holocaust.

He's also a truther, and believes that lizard aliens killed JFK (or however it went down).

 

[iolo]

What facts would you point to as zionist propaganda?

The numbers are unprovable, and they build them up. They have also managed to convince a great many people that only Jews were murdered.

 

[Wolverine]

WOW! Now how about taking a poll in America. I am sure if they poll republicans , the poll will show over 50% of republicans don't believe the Holocaust happened. It will be higher than 50% if trump tweets to his supporters that it didn't happen.

Right! 85% of democrats would have participated in the killing!

 

[cawacko]

The numbers are unprovable, and they build them up. They have also managed to convince a great many people that only Jews were murdered.

The number that gets reported is six million Jews were killed. What do you believe the correct number to be?

 

[iolo]

The number that gets reported is six million Jews were killed. What do you believe the correct number to be?

I haven't the faintest idea: it's the specificity that suggests propaganda: it the chaotic circumstances of the war's end such things were unknowable. They started off with anyone who believed in democracy, then moved on to anyone the Eugenicist nutters thought suitable, and got on to their crazy racism only when the War enabled them to cover up what they were doing from the rest of the world. When I was a kid we had a bloke living locally who'd escaped. He was a socialist, so after the trumpite manner they'd shot him in the head, and now he was a bit twp, as we said (dim). He'd been a brilliant lawyer, I gather, and there he was at twenty-six, buggered.

 

[cawacko]

I haven't the faintest idea: it's the specificity that suggests propaganda: it the chaotic circumstances of the war's end such things were unknowable. They started off with anyone who believed in democracy, then moved on to anyone the Eugenicist nutters thought suitable, and got on to their crazy racism only when the War enabled them to cover up what they were doing from the rest of the world. When I was a kid we had a bloke living locally who'd escaped. He was a socialist, so after the trumpite manner they'd shot him in the head, and now he was a bit twp, as we said (dim). He'd been a brilliant lawyer, I gather, and there he was at twenty-six, buggered.

If the number was reported as three or four million instead of six do you think the world would view the event differently?

 

[iolo]

If the number was reported as three or four million instead of six do you think the world would view the event differently?

No - a lot of people were killed, vast numbers of USSR prisoners and Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, communists, socialists, Jehovah's Witness. Only the Zionist seem to 'know' the figures somehow, and since they nearly all got out in time it doesn't bear much looking into whatever the figure. Nazis kill to save capitalism; whom they kill doesn't prove anything except what they thought they could get away with. The Zionists use what happened to rebuild Nazi racism in Palestine. It was an understandable reaction back then, but a bit sick nowadays.

 

[cawacko]

No - a lot of people were killed, vast numbers of USSR prisoners and Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, communists, socialists, Jehovah's Witness. Only the Zionist seem to 'know' the figures somehow, and since they nearly all got out in time it doesn't bear much looking into whatever the figure. Nazis kill to save capitalism; whom they kill doesn't prove anything except what they thought they could get away with. The Zionists use what happened to rebuild Nazi racism in Palestine. It was an understandable reaction back then, but a bit sick nowadays.

I guess I’m missing why one has to be a Zionist to know how many were killed. Do we know exactly how many people were killed in WWI and WWII? No. But we have a pretty good idea. Same with other wars and same with the holocaust.

 

[iolo]

I guess I’m missing why one has to be a Zionist to know how many were killed. Do we know exactly how many people were killed in WWI and WWII? No. But we have a pretty good idea. Same with other wars and same with the holocaust.

No - the Nazis all lied, lied and lied, and very often soldiers forced camp officials to lie the other way. We haven't any sort of guess at all - we know only that vast numbers of USSR citizens and Jews were murdered, and that's all we need to know: capitalism kills.

 

[cawacko]

No - the Nazis all lied, lied and lied, and very often soldiers forced camp officials to lie the other way. We haven't any sort of guess at all - we know only that vast numbers of USSR citizens and Jews were murdered, and that's all we need to know: capitalism kills.

All this shows us capitalism kills? Interesting.

Are the various holocaust museums around the U.S. for instance Zionist propaganda in your opinion?

 

[iolo]

Partly. The facts are as they are, but are no excuse for the Nazis to do it all again in Palestine. I'd prefer memorials to all the people the Nazis murdered myself.

 

[cawacko]

Partly. The facts are as they are, but are no excuse for the Nazis to do it all again in Palestine.

What should have been done post Holocaust in your opinion?

 

[iolo]

What should have been done post Holocaust in your opinion?

A huge examination by the UN into all the murders Hitler committed to save German capitalism. In the chaotic conditions of the time, however, it wasn't workable, so it was left to the Stalinists and Zionists who were into propaganda.

 

[cawacko]

A huge examination by the UN into all the murders Hitler committed to save German capitalism. In the chaotic conditions of the time, however, it wasn't workable, so it was left to the Stalinists and Zionists who were into propaganda.

What would you have foreseen as the outcome of a UN examination? Something along the lines of the elimination of nation states?

 

[iolo]

What would you have foreseen as the outcome of a UN examination? Something along the lines of the elimination of nation states?

No - some real figures, I suppose. Why? It would be nice to know how much suffering and murder German capitalism was held to be worth.

 

[cawacko]

No - some real figures, I suppose. Why? It would be nice to know how much suffering and murder German capitalism was held to be worth.

What do you mean real figures? Like the number of Jews killed were very few and thus Israel did not need to be created?

 

[iolo]

What do you mean real figures? Like the number of Jews killed were very few and thus Israel did not need to be created?

The reason 'Israel' was created, as you know, is that neither the USA or the UK wanted a lot of displaced persons from the camps, and the USSR wanted somewhere to get rid of its Jews. Obviously the number of Jews who were murdered was very large, almost as large as the number of USSR soldiers. You are desperately trying to turn me into denier of the capitalist murder-machine's having killed Jews, aren't you? Why is that, do you suppose?