$15 Minimum Wage Sparks A Jobs Recession In New York

Ralph said:
Reality: The only thing awage mandated by BIG GOVERNMENT produces is INFLATION. The min. wage demanded by government will always be an entry level wage regardless of how many time the government sticks it nose up the ass of private business. Why? Just who do you think is going to offset the mandated wage hikes.....the consumer or the retailer who must make a profit to provide the jobs?

Reality: Every time a wage increase is mandated....the business, either service or production will simply raise the price of the product or service provided. Example: In 1963 when the mandated min. wage was around 1 dollar per hour....the cost of a Micky D's big mack was .49 cents.....today after inflation adjustment that same burger cost 4 bucks with the wages coming in around 10.50 an hour....do the math....wages will never overtake the government nose up your ass min. wage inflation index. Its a simple matter of math and logic. ;)

Liberals are always chasing their own asses around a maypole......min. wage will never be a living wage for a family. The very topic is a liberal buzz word.....in the hope that their voters will always be stupid enough to take their propaganda as gospel. Its simply a liberal dance to mark time presenting the illusion that something of value is being delivered for the purchase of the STUPID VOTE.

If this reality is not truthful and logical.....any liberal, answer this question. Why do families with an average annual wage of around 40k STILL QUALITY for welfare benefits?



I N F L A T I O N: Reality...…...to offset a mandated min. wage hike the business has but a few options. 1. Increase the cost of the product or service provided. 2. Reduce the number of employees. 3. Increase the number of items sold via technology. Under any circumstance it is the WORKER that actually pays the cost of Big Government interference...not the employer.

C O N S U M E R: See....THE SHAFT.
Click to expand...

A lot of times, businesses can't just raise their prices to compensate. Remember, they still have to compete against other businesses outside of the price controls area. They therefore have to cut costs (by cutting staff), or close entirely and relocate or retire.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
What do you think about a city changing its minimum wage, and then having it overturned by the state where the city is? That happened to Kansas City and St. Louis. St. Louis voters approved an increase to $11/hour in 2015. Business lobbyists tied it up in courts for a while, then it went into effect. Then the all-(R) legislature passed a law banning local minimum wage changes, so now it is back to $7.85/hr.

"The city eventually won the legal fight, and for one summer in 2017 St. Louis’ minimum wage workers collected a bigger paycheck. But the victory was short-lived: In the final minutes of the legislative session that spring, the GOP-led Missouri Legislature passed a bill banning local minimum wages."

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_1558b5b4-5369-5d42-bef7-1e42df8706bf.html

So basically, the PEOPLE voted for it, but then were shot down by a handful of legislators. Thankfully, the forces of light overcame those of evil, and the state voters passed a proposition last year to raise the minimum wage state-wide. The new rate went into effect in January 2019. No doubt the legislators are working hard to figure out a way around it, but for now it stands.

https://www.govdocs.com/missouri-voters-pass-new-minimum-wage-increase/
Click to expand...

Not in a place where I can read these articles but on the surface no I don’t believe the state should overturn the local action here.
 
Into the Night said:
NO ONE should decide. Wages are determined by price discover (supply and demand).
Click to expand...

I’m aware of, and sympathetic too, the argument we shouldn’t have a minimum wage.

Within the existing context of our system my belief is the minimum wage should be determined on the state and/or local level.
 
Superfreak said:
I don't think the state should have overturned it. It costs more to live in KC than in rural KS. Same for St Louis and rural Mo
Click to expand...

Thanks, that's what I think as well. That's why the ppl voted to raise it, and even then only to a measly $11/hour over time. But the legislature bowed to the wishes of the business class and shot it down.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
What do you think about a city changing its minimum wage, and then having it overturned by the state where the city is? That happened to Kansas City and St. Louis. St. Louis voters approved an increase to $11/hour in 2015. Business lobbyists tied it up in courts for a while, then it went into effect. Then the all-(R) legislature passed a law banning local minimum wage changes, so now it is back to $7.85/hr.

"The city eventually won the legal fight, and for one summer in 2017 St. Louis’ minimum wage workers collected a bigger paycheck. But the victory was short-lived: In the final minutes of the legislative session that spring, the GOP-led Missouri Legislature passed a bill banning local minimum wages."

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local...cle_1558b5b4-5369-5d42-bef7-1e42df8706bf.html

So basically, the PEOPLE voted for it, but then were shot down by a handful of legislators. Thankfully, the forces of light overcame those of evil, and the state voters passed a proposition last year to raise the minimum wage state-wide. The new rate went into effect in January 2019. No doubt the legislators are working hard to figure out a way around it, but for now it stands.

https://www.govdocs.com/missouri-voters-pass-new-minimum-wage-increase/
Click to expand...

That is the same thing they did when they voted down Right to Work twice. The GOP-led Missouri Legislature keeps trying bring it in.
 
cawacko said:
I’m aware of, and sympathetic too, the argument we shouldn’t have a minimum wage.

Within the existing context of our system my belief is the minimum wage should be determined on the state and/or local level.
Click to expand...

So you don't believe in minimum wage, but you do???

State minimum wage is still price controls. They will fail just the same.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Thanks, that's what I think as well. That's why the ppl voted to raise it, and even then only to a measly $11/hour over time. But the legislature bowed to the wishes of the business class and shot it down.
Click to expand...

Just because the people vote in price controls, it doesn't make them work. They will fail just the same.
 
cawacko said:
I’m aware of, and sympathetic too, the argument we shouldn’t have a minimum wage.
Within the existing context of our system my belief is the minimum wage should be determined on the state and/or local level.
Click to expand...

Government interference in the market is NEVER good. The market will decide what a position is worth, and a position will pay what its worth. If the employer tries to go too cheap then he will get crap workers, and he can either be satisfied with that or raise the wage.

Likewise, if you are some dopehead moron who dropped out of school, then you made you bed and now you can sleep in it. You are only qualified for crap wages.
 
Terri4Trump said:
Government interference in the market is NEVER good. The market will decide what a position is worth, and a position will pay what its worth. If the employer tries to go too cheap then he will get crap workers, and he can either be satisfied with that or raise the wage.

Likewise, if you are some dopehead moron who dropped out of school, then you made you bed and now you can sleep in it. You are only qualified for crap wages.
Click to expand...

Bingo.
 
Terri4Trump said:
Government interference in the market is NEVER good. The market will decide what a position is worth, and a position will pay what its worth. If the employer tries to go too cheap then he will get crap workers, and he can either be satisfied with that or raise the wage.

Likewise, if you are some dopehead moron who dropped out of school, then you made you bed and now you can sleep in it. You are only qualified for crap wages.
Click to expand...

I question your belief in your first sentence based on the way you post about Trump here.
 
Another Republican thread attacking the lowest paid workers in America. Is there any question where the parties stand?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Why did you randomly throw price controls into the mix? That's not the subject here.
Click to expand...

He thinks a wage floor is a "price" control because he doesn't distinguish between humans and widgets.
Sort of conflating a "support" and a "control" also. I think many price controls have or do involve a cap on the cost of some item.
 
Wait until people start realizing that wage increase disqualifies them for food stamps, public housing, and State paid insurance.

:facepalm:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top