19-20-21. The National Guard Is Prepared

army? active? the guard is different, or have you not noticed?


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They don't trust the guard with live ammo on domestic operations.

Active. Have worked with Guard units. True, except those manning check points will usually have several mags at hand, and the others would take nothing to issue if it looked like that was needed. Thinking Kent State proved that the Guard are not as disciplined as Active duty troops.
 
Active. Have worked with Guard units. True, except those manning check points will usually have several mags at hand, and the others would take nothing to issue if it looked like that was needed. Thinking Kent State proved that the Guard are not as disciplined as Active duty troops.



that was my next point. Guardsmen are not diciplined enough to handle domestic issues like this, so posturing with empty weapons for cnn and the media is rather something they should discourage.


Same happened on 911 cept the guard had empty mags.


if you are saying there is a cache somewhere that has loaded mags, I dunno, possible. I never worked really with guard units.


my point stands, the purpose of taking pictures of guardsmen inside buildings with empty plate carriers, no magazines and an acog serves one purpose, photo ops.
 
Why are so many National Guard ready? Do they think patriots are going to riot? Ridiculous!
I saw that earlier and I'm like..Wtf?!

Not sure what is going on here. If they stop Antifa from burning things, that'd be good.

If you were ever in the military then you'd know that it takes a lot of people to run guard posts and checkpoints 24/7.

Calculate the size of the area you want to defend. Determine how many layers of checks points and perimeter guards walking about. Total up the manpower then multiply by 3.5 to cover 8 hour shifts, sick, family emergencies, et.

It adds up quick. If it was a long term thing, the guards would eventually be replaced with more electronic surveillance. I doubt it will be. This will be phased down to something far less than it is now, but a bit more money spent on a permanent surveillance system for the DCPD and FBI.
 
Active. Have worked with Guard units. True, except those manning check points will usually have several mags at hand, and the others would take nothing to issue if it looked like that was needed. Thinking Kent State proved that the Guard are not as disciplined as Active duty troops.

Kent State was a different time and, most certainly, a national tragedy.

Not all Guard units are the same. Some may carry loaded magazines, others may have an Officer or SNCO with a buttpack full of loaded magazines or access to a locked box full of loaded magazines.
 
Kent State was a different time and, most certainly, a national tragedy.

Not all Guard units are the same. Some may carry loaded magazines, others may have an Officer or SNCO with a buttpack full of loaded magazines or access to a locked box full of loaded magazines.

Correct. That said, my statement that Active Military are better disciplined still stands.
Their Unit Armorer and their assistants will usually carry the ammo, already loaded in the mags, and yes some units will have ammo on them if not loaded in their weapon.
 
Correct. That said, my statement that Active Military are better disciplined still stands.
Their Unit Armorer and their assistants will usually carry the ammo, already loaded in the mags, and yes some units will have ammo on them if not loaded in their weapon.

Agreed. Training day-in, day-out as opposed to only one weekend a month and a two week vacation to Fort Hood will certainly produce different results.
 
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lol, I bet most of you don't see whats missing. fact is, democrats are using them for optics, not defense. hint, he's not armed.

*Gasp!*
 
Why are so many National Guard ready? Do they think patriots are going to riot? Ridiculous!
I saw that earlier and I'm like..Wtf?!

Not sure what is going on here. If they stop Antifa from burning things, that'd be good.

The overkill is so over the top it has to be for political purposes. It’s literally a Green Zone. An actual army couldn’t break into it. They even put a wall [that doesn’t work] around it.

But gives cover for Biden not drawing a crowd and it feeds the narrative that Trump Rally goers are actual terrorists.

I wonder who will be held accountable for violence against Trump supporters when it starts?
 
The overkill is so over the top it has to be for political purposes. It’s literally a Green Zone. An actual army couldn’t break into it. They even put a wall [that doesn’t work] around it.

But gives cover for Biden not drawing a crowd and it feeds the narrative that Trump Rally goers are actual terrorists.

I wonder who will be held accountable for violence against Trump supporters when it starts?

Pretty sure storming the Capitol had nothing to do with it. :rolleyes:
 
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