200,000 Deaths.

Hello christiefan915,

christiefan915 said:
Oklahoma health officials reported record number of COVID-19 cases in the state this week, three weeks after President Donald Trump held a controversial rally in Tulsa, Okla., on June 20.

On Saturday, the Oklahoma State Department of Health (OSDH) reported 687 new COVID-19 cases had been confirmed in the last 24 hours. It was the second highest increase only coming after Tuesday’s 858 confirmed cases, per the Oklahoman. As of Saturday afternoon ET, Oklahoma had at least 19,779 confirmed cases of the virus, according to OSDH...

The surge of new cases comes just weeks after President Trump held a campaign rally in an indoor arena in Tulsa, where many of the attendees reportedly did not wear masks. The event was criticized as being unsafe and a local newspaper ran an editorial asking the President not to hold the rally. On the day of the event, it was revealed that six staffers on the Trump campaign tested positive for the coronavirus.

https://time.com/5865890/oklahoma-covid-19-trump-tulsa-rally/
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Super spreader event.

Spreading the virus and spreading the BS.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
There was a surge in WV cases after our mask mandate lol.
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Some of the people who attended the Sturgis super spreader bike rally event came from and returned to WV.

Plenty of people in WV refuse to wear masks, and they do not practice safe distancing.
 
Deaths (confirmed and probable):

Total fatalities with confirmed OR probable COVID-19 case diagnosis
(per the expanded CSTE case definition of April 5th, 2020 approved
by the CDC). In states where the information is available, it only
tracks fatalities with confirmed OR probable COVID-19 case diagnosis
where on the death certificate, COVID-19 is listed as AN underlying
cause of death according to WHO guidelines.
https://covidtracking.com/data

Get over it.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
I wish there was some way to go back in time, put Biden in the WH in January, and then run the experiment again.

I would absolutely bet a permanent ban not a thing would be different.
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If Biden had been President we would have had

1. An early warning that this crisis was coming.

2. An earlier emergency declaration.

3. Consistent leadership and messaging that we are all in this together, and that we must protect one another by mask-wearing, distancing, and hygiene.

4. No pandemic preparations would have been dismantled.

5. Any needed supplies such as PPE and test swabs would have been quickly identified early and secured in the needed quantities, and a national plan would have been formulated to get them to the most needed regions as quickly as possible.

6. States would not have been 'on their own,' would not have been forced into capitalistic competition with one another for emergency supplies.

7. Only highly qualified people would have been put in charge of functions (NOT Jarod Kushner.)

8. We would have stayed in and coordinated with the WHO. WHO funding would not have been cut.

9. We would be focused on saving lives instead of blaming China.

10. We would have about 65,000 total deaths by now.

11. No quack drugs would have been pushed. The guy who ate aquarium cleaner would be alive.

12. No absurd statements would have been issued such as ingesting household disinfectants.

13. Cruise ships would have been allowed to dock regardless of what that would have done to 'the president's figures.'

14. The president would never have claimed it will 'miraculously go away.'

15. The SCOTUS would not be getting ready to hear a case which could take health coverage away from millions of Americans, treat COVID-19 as a preexisting condition, nor allow insurance companies to charge any more than 20% over what is actually paid for actual health care.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



If Biden had been President we would have had

1. An early warning that this crisis was coming.

2. An earlier emergency declaration.

3. Consistent leadership and messaging that we are all in this together, and that we must protect one another by mask-wearing, distancing, and hygiene.

4. No pandemic preparations would have been dismantled.

5. Any needed supplies such as PPE and test swabs would have been quickly identified early and secured in the needed quantities, and a national plan would have been formulated to get them to the most needed regions as quickly as possible.

6. States would not have been 'on their own,' would not have been forced into capitalistic competition with one another for emergency supplies.

7. Only highly qualified people would have been put in charge of functions (NOT Jarod Kushner.)

8. We would have stayed in and coordinated with the WHO. WHO funding would not have been cut.

9. We would be focused on saving lives instead of blaming China.

10. We would have about 65,000 total deaths by now.

11. No quack drugs would have been pushed. The guy who ate aquarium cleaner would be alive.

12. No absurd statements would have been issued such as ingesting household disinfectants.

13. Cruise ships would have been allowed to dock regardless of what that would have done to 'the president's figures.'

14. The president would never have claimed it will 'miraculously go away.'

15. The SCOTUS would not be getting ready to hear a case which could take health coverage away from millions of Americans, treat COVID-19 as a preexisting condition, nor allow insurance companies to charge any more than 20% over what is actually paid for actual health care.
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Deaths (confirmed and probable):

Total fatalities with confirmed OR probable COVID-19 case diagnosis
(per the expanded CSTE case definition of April 5th, 2020 approved
by the CDC). In states where the information is available, it only
tracks fatalities with confirmed OR probable COVID-19 case diagnosis
where on the death certificate, COVID-19 is listed as AN underlying
cause of death according to WHO guidelines.
https://covidtracking.com/data

Get over it.
 
200K and counting.

A lot of events are going on with the potential for spreading the virus.

School openings without sufficient precautions being taken.

Trump rallies.

Bars opening back up.

The RNC.

Sturgis.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



If Biden had been President we would have had

1. An early warning that this crisis was coming.

2. An earlier emergency declaration.

3. Consistent leadership and messaging that we are all in this together, and that we must protect one another by mask-wearing, distancing, and hygiene.

4. No pandemic preparations would have been dismantled.

5. Any needed supplies such as PPE and test swabs would have been quickly identified early and secured in the needed quantities, and a national plan would have been formulated to get them to the most needed regions as quickly as possible.

6. States would not have been 'on their own,' would not have been forced into capitalistic competition with one another for emergency supplies.

7. Only highly qualified people would have been put in charge of functions (NOT Jarod Kushner.)

8. We would have stayed in and coordinated with the WHO. WHO funding would not have been cut.

9. We would be focused on saving lives instead of blaming China.

10. We would have about 65,000 total deaths by now.

11. No quack drugs would have been pushed. The guy who ate aquarium cleaner would be alive.

12. No absurd statements would have been issued such as ingesting household disinfectants.

13. Cruise ships would have been allowed to dock regardless of what that would have done to 'the president's figures.'

14. The president would never have claimed it will 'miraculously go away.'

15. The SCOTUS would not be getting ready to hear a case which could take health coverage away from millions of Americans, treat COVID-19 as a preexisting condition, nor allow insurance companies to charge any more than 20% over what is actually paid for actual health care.
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Partisan wishful thinking.

O’Biden’s own guru said ‘they were lucky’ with H1N1.
 
Stretch said:
Deaths (confirmed and probable):

Total fatalities with confirmed OR probable COVID-19 case diagnosis
(per the expanded CSTE case definition of April 5th, 2020 approved
by the CDC). In states where the information is available, it only
tracks fatalities with confirmed OR probable COVID-19 case diagnosis
where on the death certificate, COVID-19 is listed as AN underlying
cause of death according to WHO guidelines.
https://covidtracking.com/data

Get over it.
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They all ignore the premise in the OP lol.

In UK, the deaths from lockdown exceed the deaths from/with COVID.
 
Trump admitted and it is on tape, that he knew how bad it was in Feb. He went golfing and held rallies. Never did Trump ask the people to stand up and do the right thing. Americans would have, If Trump would have told the people it is airborne and easily spread, the people would have done the patriotic thing. Instead he downplayed it over and over. This one is simple. Trump killed a lot of Americans. He has blood all over his little hands. He saw opening up and downplaying it as helpful in the election. Trump simply does not care about people dying of Corona. He has not even made a speech showing sympathy for the families of the dead. Trump does not care.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Partisan wishful thinking.

O’Biden’s own guru said ‘they were lucky’ with H1N1.
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And that is why they increased preparations for the next one.

Too bad Trump reversed that. Got thousands killed. He found out he could do way more than shoot one person on 5th avenue.
 
PoliTalker said:
"On April 10, the president predicted the U.S. wouldn’t see 100,000 deaths. That milestone was reached May 27."

"Nowhere was the lack of leadership seen as more crucial than in testing, a key to breaking the chain of contagion.

“We have from the very beginning lacked a national testing strategy,” Nuzzo said. “For reasons I can’t truly fathom we’ve refused to develop one.”"

'Unfathomable': US death toll from coronavirus hits 200,000

"The real number of dead from the crisis could be significantly higher: As many as 215,000 more people than usual died in the U.S. from all causes during the first seven months of 2020, according to CDC figures. The death toll from COVID-19 during the same period was put at about 150,000 by Johns Hopkins."

"America's 200,000 COVID-19 Deaths: Small Cities And Towns Bear A Growing Share"

"When COVID-19 claimed its first 100,000 lives in the U.S., Hidalgo County, Texas, seemed to have avoided the worst of it. The county, which sits on the border with Mexico, had just 10 deaths when the U.S. crossed that tragic milestone on May 27.

But the U.S. has now doubled its death count to top 200,000 victims, and Hidalgo County has become one of the deadliest hot spots for COVID-19. Despite the lack of dense urban areas there — its largest city, McAllen, has fewer than 150,000 residents — the disease has killed more than 1,500 people across the county.

"We knew we were going to see an increase, but we could not foresee the increase we got," says Eduardo Olivarez, the chief administrative officer of the county health department.

This summer, COVID-19 hit hospitals in McAllen, Texas, hard. With the U.S. exceeding 200,000 deaths from COVID-19, the share of deaths occurring in rural places and small cities is rising.
Eric Gay/AP

"Once we started seeing a sharp increase in fatalities, and the community started reflecting that it was their parents, friends, grandparents — once that started impacting them — the community really started sensing, 'Oh, my God, this is really extremely serious. We need to take heed.' "

Hidalgo County is one of the most extreme examples of how the coronavirus has shifted from dealing its heaviest blows to northeastern urban areas to now reaching all corners of the country. As the death count grows, smaller towns and rural communities bear a growing share of the burden of COVID-19.

An NPR analysis finds that the share of COVID-19 deaths outside places considered large metro areas by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has grown dramatically since the country passed its first 100,000 deaths. Then, about a fifth of deaths came from places outside large metro areas. In the second 100,000 deaths, that share jumped to nearly half.

The largest growth occurred in small towns and rural areas, where the share of deaths nearly tripled. "

IOW, Trump country.

What goes around, comes around.
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Covid19 has killed no one. This virus does not kill directly. 200,000 is a random number. Argument from randU fallacy.
 
Into the Night said:
Covid19 has killed no one. This virus does not kill directly. 200,000 is a random number. Argument from randU fallacy.
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I was reading someone claiming that if a person dies and was even all the way back to March diagnosed as carrying SARS-COV2 then they well may end up tallied as a COVID death. Thing is our leaders are so incompetent and dishonest that I cant dismiss this claim out of hand.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I was reading someone claiming that if a person dies and was even all the way back to March diagnosed as carrying SARS-COV2 then they well may end up tallied as a COVID death. Thing is our leaders are so incompetent and dishonest that I cant dismiss this claim out of hand.
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There is money in claiming a Covid19 death. It's a scam for federal funding. It's also a scam for lording over people (something the left loves to do!).
 
Into the Night said:
There is money in claiming a Covid19 death. It's a scam for federal funding. It's also a scam for lording over people (something the left loves to do!).
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YEP. and this gets filed under: Be careful of how corrupt you allow your society to become, because eventually function starts to break down.

Also Jordan Petersons "Dont lie to yourself, because you very quickly will no longer be able to tell where the truth is (paraphrase maybe)".
 
Stretch said:
Did you have a problem with Spanish flu, West Nile virus, Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, Lyme disease, Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS),
Norovirus, Zika fever, Japanese encephalitis, German measles, Lassa fever, Legionnaire’s disease, Ross River fever, Ebola Hemorrhagic fever,
Omsk Hemorrhagic fever?
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What does this have to do with trump's fearmongering? I know there were people here on JPP who thought Obama should have shut down the country when we had something like 10 cases of ebola. How many of those above were pandemics?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello christiefan915,

Super spreader event.

Spreading the virus and spreading the BS.
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He had another one here in Pittsburgh so I'll be waiting for the news about a surge in cases in 10 days or so. I can't feel sorry for anybody who gets the virus from attending those events.
 
christiefan915 said:
He had another one here in Pittsburgh so I'll be waiting for the news about a surge in cases in 10 days or so. I can't feel sorry for anybody who gets the virus from attending those events.
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And you should not....But keep us posted, will you? Stay safe;)
 
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