60 percent think Biden won in post debate poll

Trump was great.=

It says a lot about your character that you think a lying, screaming, interrupting bully who refuses to condemn white supremacists did "great".

I guess you're one of those "very fine people" he told to "stand back and stand by."
 
Trump was great.....he knows how deeply the game is rigged, he is going down fighting.... because that is what the Better People do.

How is the game rigged against Trump? The game is rigged in favor of Trump, and he's still blowing it.

He has the Electoral College, a GOP Senate, a Conservative SCOTUS. So how exactly is the game "rigged"?
 

Most people realized both sides would be declaring total victory within 5 minutes after the screaming match ended. No surprise Trump voters think Trump won and Biden voters think Biden won. The Truth Teller is what the Independents think. Independents thought less of both after the debate, but Trump took the biggest loss. Oddly, Trump took a huge hit among his base too.

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Yes, Trump is getting more shit than Obama because Trump generates a lot more shit than both Bush and Obama together.

Scroll up or search. I've criticized Biden several times; his comments during the debate, when he could get a word in edgewise, his fear-mongering about the right and his support for the LW agenda as noted on his website. I've even offered LWers bets that Pelosi and Schumer (if the Democrats take the Senate) would have a gun-ban bill on Biden's desk by next Summer. No takers. Guess why?

Are you saying you've never seen those posts? If not, them perhaps you should look first before posting your own bullshit.

Posting my own bullshit? Speak for yourself. I don't follow you around on this forum. You really haven't earned my attention.
 
reason #5 to not vote Democrat, Condescension and elitism.

Trump lost a lot of voters last night, I doubt Biden gained any voters and you are helping drive away the undecided.

You're not voting Biden anyway, and posts like these are bad faith.

I think Democrats know how to win elections...we won the House by 10,000,000 votes last time.

I remember the scolds saying that being mean to Conservatives (in public, on the net, anywhere) will drive voters away from Democrats in 2018.

That "wisdom" turned out to be completely fucking wrong.

No one wants centrist extremists that stand for nothing.
 
You're not voting Biden anyway, and posts like these are bad faith.

I think Democrats know how to win elections...we won the House by 10,000,000 votes last time.

I remember the scolds saying that being mean to Conservatives (in public, on the net, anywhere) will drive voters away from Democrats in 2018.

That "wisdom" turned out to be completely fucking wrong.

No one wants centrist extremists that stand for nothing.

Obviously you don't have a fucking clue what it means to be a neutral observer. Too bad for you.
 
...Biden wasn't much better. Why aren't you criticizing him too? But that's not the point...
Yes, Trump is getting more shit than Obama because Trump generates a lot more shit than both Bush and Obama together.

Scroll up or search. I've criticized Biden several times; his comments during the debate, when he could get a word in edgewise, his fear-mongering about the right and his support for the LW agenda as noted on his website. I've even offered LWers bets that Pelosi and Schumer (if the Democrats take the Senate) would have a gun-ban bill on Biden's desk by next Summer. No takers. Guess why?

Are you saying you've never seen those posts? If not, them perhaps you should look first before posting your own bullshit.
Posting my own bullshit? Speak for yourself. I don't follow you around on this forum. You really haven't earned my attention.

Translation: You're right, Dutch. I shot my mouth off without knowing what I was talking about.
 
I swear the guy is an evil genius. In watching the debate live - Trump looks like a clown

but all the snippets of video - where you don't see the full context of him constantly interrupting - he doesn't look like a clown, he looks calm and hilarious, and Biden looks unprofessional
 
Obviously you don't have a fucking clue what it means to be a neutral observer. Too bad for you.

You're not a neutral observer...you're a shitposter who wants to feel better about himself by posturing that you're "above it all" or whatever.

But you're not.

You're just down in the muck with everyone else, covered in it while pretending you aren't.

Centrists add nothing to the debate other than a smug sense of self-satisfaction.

But the reality is that you're just posturing. The posturing is covering for something else...something much deeper and more damaging within you.

If your takeaway from last night wasn't "Jesus fuck the President is crazy as shit and we have to do everything to get Biden elected so the threat is gone", then you're one of his supporters or you're so consumed with your own self-image that you're willing to embrace the fascist tendencies of normalizing brutality by bOtHsIdEs-ing everything.

All "both sides are the same" means is that you're too lazy or too stupid to recognize and acknowledge distinctions and differences, so everyone must lower their collective expectations of you accordingly.
 
I swear the guy is an evil genius. In watching the debate live - Trump looks like a clown

but all the snippets of video - where you don't see the full context of him constantly interrupting - he doesn't look like a clown, he looks calm and hilarious, and Biden looks unprofessional

Sociopathy. "Evil genius". :D

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/sociopathy
Sociopathy refers to a pattern of antisocial behaviors and attitudes, including manipulation, deceit, aggression, and a lack of empathy for others. Sociopathy is a non-diagnostic term, and it is not synonymous with "psychopathy," though the overlap leads to frequent confusion. Sociopaths may or may not break the law, but by exploiting and manipulating others, they violate the trust that the human enterprise runs on.
 
You're not a neutral observer...you're a shitposter who wants to feel better about himself by posturing that you're "above it all" or whatever.

But you're not.

You're just down in the muck with everyone else, covered in it while pretending you aren't.

Centrists add nothing to the debate other than a smug sense of self-satisfaction.

But the reality is that you're just posturing. The posturing is covering for something else...something much deeper and more damaging within you.

If your takeaway from last night wasn't "Jesus fuck the President is crazy as shit and we have to do everything to get Biden elected so the threat is gone", then you're one of his supporters or you're so consumed with your own self-image that you're willing to embrace the fascist tendencies of normalizing brutality by bOtHsIdEs-ing everything.

All "both sides are the same" means is that you're too lazy or too stupid to recognize and acknowledge distinctions and differences, so everyone must lower their collective expectations of you accordingly.

Thanks for the nutjob rant. All you are doing is proving you are no better than Truth Detector, Teflon Don and the other RWNJs.
 
Thanks for the nutjob rant. All you are doing is proving you are no better than Truth Detector, Teflon Don and the other RWNJs.

You're a poseur...you don't believe in anything.

That makes it really easy to posture "neutrality".

But all that does is tell the world that you're too lazy or too dumb to reach any conclusions, and that simply putting yourself as the arbiter gives you a sense of power that you don't otherwise have. Specifically, the power to appear above it all by condemning those who condemn you.

But that's basically like a roach thinking it's doing something right because everyone is always trying to kill it.

So maybe your intent is to turn everyone off, that way you can posture victimhood because you get shit from all sides? Isn't that what you're doing here, sparky?

In the end, I doubt even your sincerity on centrism. I think it's all fake. I think you don't believe in anything. I think you come on places like JPP to feel better about yourself. Is it working? Do you feel better about yourself? Doesn't seem like it.

You seem like a very unhappy person. Unhappy that you don't get the respect or admiration you think your "brave" stance of standing for nothing entitles you to.
 
You're a poseur...you don't believe in anything.

That makes it really easy to posture "neutrality".

But all that does is tell the world that you're too lazy or too dumb to reach any conclusions, and that simply putting yourself as the arbiter gives you a sense of power that you don't otherwise have. Specifically, the power to appear above it all by condemning those who condemn you.

But that's basically like a roach thinking it's doing something right because everyone is always trying to kill it.

So maybe your intent is to turn everyone off, that way you can posture victimhood because you get shit from all sides? Isn't that what you're doing here, sparky?


I gave up on that guy. A brain dead contrarian. Say it is Wednesday and he'll argue it's the day before Thursday.
 
You're a poseur...you don't believe in anything.

That makes it really easy to posture "neutrality".

But all that does is tell the world that you're too lazy or too dumb to reach any conclusions, and that simply putting yourself as the arbiter gives you a sense of power that you don't otherwise have. Specifically, the power to appear above it all by condemning those who condemn you.

But that's basically like a roach thinking it's doing something right because everyone is always trying to kill it.

So maybe your intent is to turn everyone off, that way you can posture victimhood because you get shit from all sides? Isn't that what you're doing here, sparky?

Son, all you are doing it proving yourself to be a maniac. Get some help before you start hurting people close to you.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post

"Thanks for the nutjob rant. All you are doing is proving you are no better than Truth Detector, Teflon Don and the other RWNJs."


Nope, the fundamental righteousness of opposing the criminal traitor clown asshole is the distinction such that nobody can ever be compared like that.

If Jesus wrestled satan in pigslop. Doesn't make Jesus =satan.

Let me make this perfectly clear, WE ARE MORALLY SUPERIOR TO YOU.
 
Hello Cypress,

In post debate poll
60% viewers thought Biden won
28% thought Fatso won

"Post-debate CNN poll: Six in 10 say Biden won the debate'

(CNN) Six in 10 debate watchers said former Vice President Joe Biden did the best job in Tuesday's debate, and just 28% say President Donald Trump did, according a CNN Poll of debate watchers conducted by SSRS

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html

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Biden totally won.
 
I gave up on that guy. A brain dead contrarian. Say it is Wednesday and he'll argue it's the day before Thursday.

Contrarian is a good word for them.

That contrarianism is borne out of deep-seeded insecurities and a feeling of powerlessness.

That's why "centrists" like him bOtHsIdEs everything...they feel powerless in a debate for which they have no stakes or no knowledge, but want to feel the power of being some kind of independent arbiter of behavior or truth.

But you can't achieve that power if you don't stand for anything...which they don't.
 
Son, all you are doing it proving yourself to be a maniac. Get some help before you start hurting people close to you.

I'm not the posturing jackass here...you are.

You feel powerless in debates because you don't have any true convictions or beliefs...you're just a reactionary.

So you have to posture that you have the power to condemn best practices, behaviors, or policy (according to your subjective standard you mistake for objectivity) by feeling compelled to boil everything down to "both sides".

It's seriously lazy. Like, Trump-level lazy.

It's the JPP equivalent of "Very fine people on both sides".
 
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