8 times Obama offered quid pro quo for U.S. foreign aid

[artichoke]

Yes the old leftist argument that nobody could oppose Obama’s policies

Apparently you live in a world where I would have supported Obamacare had Obama been full white instead of half white right?

When this is what passes for democrat party debate it is no wonder you fall for hoaxes like Russian Collusion

Amen.

Penderyn is an embarrassing intellectual cripple. Don't pick on him too much.

 

[Darth Omar]

This is all rant. President Obama faced a vast Nazi propaganda campaign of lies courageously, and, as you know, you could make none of them stick, ever. As you very well know, your current Fuhrer uses your Constitution as toilet paper. Roll on Impeachment, if your capitalist masters don't stage a military coup!

As you well know, Obama’s spiritual mentor, The Right Reverend, Reverend Wright was/is the black equivalent of a white racist.

Dutifully, the media provided whatever cover it could for Obama but Obama was still forced to disassociate himself from Wright and it nearly cost him the election in 2008. In fact, had McCain pressed harder on it he may have won.

But nobody likes being called a racist.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Yes the old leftist argument that nobody could oppose Obama’s policies

Apparently you live in a world where I would have supported Obamacare had Obama been full white instead of half white right?

When this is what passes for democrat party debate it is no wonder you fall for hoaxes like Russian Collusion

No question - every racist and Nazi fanatic opposed him for standing for standard American values instead of Hitlerite ones. Obviously you support anything that means poor people die, never mind the colour of those who swore the Hypocritic Oath but do nothing. There seems overwhelming evidence for Russian interference, as there seems to be over here too.

 

[artichoke]

Prove any of that drivel. The courts are waiting.

You mean when all those DOJ officials resigned in protest when the ACORN president protected Black Panthers for armed voter intimidation at the polls during a major national election? Or when his IRS had to plead the 5th to avoid criminal prosecution for targeting conservative groups, again in the middle of a major national election? Or when he frivolously prosecuted Romney donors for infractions that no one else had ever been prosecuted? Or when he illegally started wars and enacted laws without Congress? Or when he had to be publicly confronted by a federal judge for lawlessly disregarding order after order to stop illegally attacking energy companies?

His unprecedented and disturbingly un-American abuses of power are so extensive and extreme that I need you to narrow it down to which part you want me to talk about.

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And the fallacy of pretending that Obama's rigged, politicized, and weaponized DOJ not investigating him no matter how much evidence there was against him...somehow proves his innocence...is absurdly empty and fake on its face. The evidence is overwhelming. If Trump is guilty till proven innocent, Obama, who has already been proven guilty, deserves the same treatment.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Says the guy who just posted this...







Did he now?

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Tyrannically retaliating against whistleblowers, silencing dissent, persecuting Romney donors, destroying evidence, and obstruction of evidence tends to do that. The FACTS show he abused his power worse than any president in modern history.

Deal with it.



Another perfect description of what only Obama did.

More blather, no argument. If you ever had anything that wasn't a lie against President Obama, take it to court.. Even if your current un-elected fuhrer appoints all the Supreme Court justices you won't get away with it, you know.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

As you well know, Obama’s spiritual mentor, The Right Reverend, Reverend Wright was/is the black equivalent of a white racist.

Dutifully, the media provided whatever cover it could for Obama but Obama was still forced to disassociate himself from Wright and it nearly cost him the election in 2008. In fact, had McCain pressed harder on it he may have won.

But nobody likes being called a racist.

Rant. Racist is destroying people's lives because of slaver-fantasies, as you know. Slaves can't be racist.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

You mean when all those DOJ officials resigned in protest when the ACORN president protected Black Panthers for armed voter intimidation at the polls during a major national election? Or when his IRS had to plead the 5th to avoid criminal prosecution for targeting conservative groups, again in the middle of a major national election? Or when he frivolously prosecuted Romney donors for infractions that no one else had ever been prosecuted? Or when he illegally started wars and enacted laws without Congress? Or when he had to be publicly confronted by a federal judge for lawlessly disregarding order after order to stop illegally attacking energy companies?

His unprecedented and disturbingly un-American abuses of power are so extensive and extreme that I need you to narrow it down to which part you want me to talk about.

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And the fallacy of pretending that Obama's rigged, politicized, and weaponized DOJ not investigating him no matter how much evidence there was against him...somehow proves his innocence...is absurdly empty and fake on its face. The evidence is overwhelming.

I don't know what you are quacking about. If you have anything real to say about your last human President, prove it. Anyone can rant.

 

[Rusty Bell 65]

Obviously you hated President Obama for the colour of his skin. Back in yuor good old Reich that was probably okay, but nowadays all the wicked commies call it racist, now you can't gass 'em! If there is not 'racial' unrest in your racist nuthouse, your camps must be back at work!

You assholes are all the same. You accuse us of hating Obama for the color of his skin because you won't admit it was only his policies we didn't like.
The rest of your pathetic rant is demented. Stupid foreigner

 

[artichoke]

I don't know what you are quacking about. If you have anything real to say about your last human President, prove it. Anyone can rant.

Again, which of his myriad abuses do you want to talk about? Hint: you don't know about any of this because you are a brainwashed, misinformed parrot for the left.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

I have said this a few times, every president has done the same ffs. That's why the Dems will end up bitterly regretting unleashing the dogs of Hell, it's their arses that will get bitten.

The difference is Quid Pro Quo to take down a political rival. Comprende?

 

[artichoke]

You assholes are all the same. You accuse us of hating Obama for the color of his skin because you won't admit it was only his policies we didn't like.

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

Again, which of his myriad abuses do you want to talk about? Hint: you don't know about any of this because you are a brainwashed, misinformed parrot for the left.

I'm just a normal British person who reads the news, tory-biased but uncensored. You should try it. If you know of any real abuses, take 'em to a court. You've got enough Nazi nutters slavering for anything that might work.

 

[Rusty Bell 65]

When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

It's all they have. They think if they scream conservatives are Nazi racists loud and long enough, people will believe them. Sad fact is, the stupid and misinformed people do.

 

[artichoke]

The difference is Quid Pro Quo to take down a political rival. Comprende?

Biden did it to protect his son's corruption. And Democrats did it against Trump with the fake DNC-funded dossier (to take down a political opponent).

What Trump did isn't even controversial. Trump putting conditions on foreign aid is standard practice for every president. Him asking a legitimate question about why overt and obvious corruption is no longer being investigated (the kind of questions U.S. officials had been asking for YEARS under Obama) is not the scandal Democrats want it to be...and the real scandal is Biden abusing his power. Like the Kavanaugh rape gangs, the Russian collusion hoax, and every other Democrat lie, this is about treasonous Democrats failing to justify yet another coup attempt.

As usual, Democrats are the only scumbags doing the things they are falsely accusing others of. Sorry reality doesn't comply with your wishful thinking.

 

[artichoke]

I'm just a normal British person who reads the news, tory-biased but uncensored.

This is called wishful thinking. Nothing about your deranged hysteria is normal or reasonable. Try again.

If you know of any real abuses,

So just keep pretending I'm not listing them off. Congratulations. You're officially on the intellectual level of a child.

take 'em to a court.

Repeating fallacies doesn't make them true. Democrats don't get prosecuted here. Clinging to conviction status...while demanding that Trump be denied due process is self-discrediting hypocrisy in the extreme.

You've got enough Nazi nutters slavering for anything that might work.

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[artichoke]

It's all they have. They think if they scream conservatives are Nazi racists loud and long enough, people will believe them. Sad fact is, the stupid and misinformed people do.

Bullies pretending to be victims. The Democrat modus operandi.

 

[Iolo/Penderyn]

This is called wishful thinking. Nothing about your deranged hysteria is normal or reasonable. Try again.



So just keep pretending I'm not listing them off. Congratulations. You're officially on the intellectual level of a child.



Repeating fallacies doesn't make them true. Democrats don't get prosecuted here. Clinging to conviction status...while demanding that Trump be denied due process is self-discrediting hypocrisy in the extreme.





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Any fool can list items of total bullshit, kid, but only American trumpers, like our Bliar, believe their own ludicrous crap!

 

[domer76]

So, if every president for generations has done this, and Obama did more than most...did they all need to be impeached, Obama top among them...or are Democrats just arbitrarily inventing another blatantly dishonest new standard out of thin air for only Trump to follow?

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8 times the Obama administration put conditions on foreign aid

"Israel

In September 2016, Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu negotiated the largest U.S. military aid package to Israel in history. As part of the deal, Israel was guaranteed $38 billion in military aid over a decade, but the generous package also came with a few conditions designed to keep Israel dependent on the U.S. for its defense capabilities. In exchange for the aid, Israel had to promise not to seek any additional funds from Congress for the duration of the aid package, and it had to relinquish a special arrangement that allowed Israel to use U.S. aid dollars on developing its own domestic defense industry instead of buying exclusively from America.

Egypt

The Obama administration temporarily cut off military aid to Egypt after its democratically-elected president Mohamed Morsi, who had strong links to the Muslim Brotherhood, was deposed in coup led by current president Abdeh Fattah el-Sisi in 2013.

Obama urged that Morsi’s opponents should use “legal, legitimate” processes to remove him instead of lining up tanks in front of the presidential palace. Though some in Congress, including Democratic Vermont Senator Patrick Leahy, argued to completely cut off foreign aid to Egypt, Obama declined to fully describe Morsi’s ouster as a coup, and aid was restored soon after Morsi was removed from power and the coup leaders solidified their position.

Pakistan

The U.S withheld $300 million in aid to Pakistan in August 2016 in retaliation for what the U.S. deemed to be an inadequate effort to suppress Taliban-affiliated militants operating out of Pakistan, who were crossing the border into neighboring Afghanistan. The groups operating out of Pakistan were a primary source of concern for the security of Afghanistan, and some U.S. military officials claimed that the terrorist groups had links with Pakistani intelligence.

The aid that was cut off was part of the Coalition Support Funds (CSF) program. Under the program, the U.S. reimbursed Pakistan for its aid in U.S. operations in Afghanistan and supported Pakistan’s operations against militants in its own territory. The U.S. previously withheld $800 million in aid to Pakistan after the raid in 2011 on Pakistani soil that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden. The billions of dollars that the U.S. has reimbursed Pakistan since 2001 have been critical to the maintenance of the Pakistani armed forces.

Bangladesh

Obama removed trade incentives to Bangladesh in 2013 because of the working conditions for the country’s garment workers. Bangladesh was expelled from the Generalized System of Preferences (GSP) program, which was created in 1976 to aid economic development in poor countries and reduce import costs to the U.S.

The GSP aid to Bangladesh was small, only about $2 million in duties was spared on $35 million worth of goods while Bangladesh annually pays $732 million in duties on $4.9 billion in clothing goods, but the cessation of the GSP program would have also caused tax hikes in important Bangladeshi industries like plastics.

The cut in aid was prompted by two deadly incidents in the Bangladeshi garment industry in 2012 and 2013. In November 2012, a fire in a garment factory killed 112 people, and in April 2013 a garment factory collapsed, killing 1,132 people.

Colombia

Obama attached $450 million in aid to Colombia in order to incentivize a peace treaty between the Colombian government and the FARC rebels in 2016. The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) had been in rebellion against the Colombian government since 1964. Obama also promised $33 million to find land mines strewn across the country and to pressure the international community for more aid if peace was reached.

The U.S. previously supplied over $10 billion in military and economic aid to Colombia from 2000 to 2015. Increased U.S. aid to Colombia was seen as pivotal as a condition for successful peace negotiation after three failed attempts at negotiations and a cut to the Colombian government’s budget of more than 20% after a plunge in oil prices. The peace plan was ratified in November 2016.

Uganda

Obama suggested in February 2014 that Uganda’s aid from the United States would be in jeopardy if the country adopted an anti-homosexual bill. Homosexuality was already illegal in Uganda, but the new legislation would have increased the penalty for being homosexual to life in prison. Additionally, the bill also made it a crime to not report homosexuals to the authorities. The bill also brought lesbians under the purview of Uganda’s anti-homosexual law for the first time.

While initially hesitant to sign the bill, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni announced that he intended to sign it. In response, Obama said that passage of the bill would “complicate our valued relationship with Uganda,” and a senior official in the administration said that the U.S. would review its aid package to Uganda if the bill passed. The U.S. sent more than $400 million in aid to Uganda in 2014. Though Museveni signed the law in February 2014, the Ugandan Supreme Court ruled it invalid on procedural grounds in August 2014.

Nigeria

The Obama administration threatened to cut off aid to Nigeria if the country passed an anti-homosexual bill in 2011. The bill criminalized same-sex relationships and levied a prison sentence of up to 14 years on those convicted of homosexuality.

Nigerians, who overwhelmingly disapprove of homosexuality, reacted negatively to Obama’s threat. One Nigerian lawmaker said, “We have a culture. We have religious beliefs and we have a tradition. We are black people. We are not white, and so the U.S cannot impose its culture on us. Same sex marriage is alien to our culture and we can never give it a chance. So if [Western nations] withhold their aid to us, to hell with them.”

The anti-homosexual bill was delayed in the Nigerian Congress until 2014 when President Goodluck Jonathan signed it into law.

Ukraine

The Obama-era “quid pro quo” that has had the greatest impact on Trump’s presidency is the threat from Joe Biden to withhold a $1 billion loan to Ukraine in exchange for the ouster of a prosecutor Biden accused of corruption [who just happened to be investigating Biden's obscenely corrupt, illegal influence-selling son]. Joe Biden even bragged about the “quid pro quo” at an event held by the Council on Foreign Relations in January 2018:

I remember going over (to Ukraine), convincing our team … that we should be providing for loan guarantees. … And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from (then Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko) and from (then-Prime Minister Arseniy) Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor (Shokin). And they didn’t. …

They were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, … we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, ‘You have no authority. You’re not the president.’ … I said, call him. I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. … I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a bitch. He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time.

Trump and his allies claim that the prosecutor’s firing was demanded in order to protect Hunter Biden and his business dealings in Ukraine from the prying eyes of the prosecutor who was investigating corruption. Biden claims that he pressured President Poroshenko to get rid of the prosecutor because he did not pursue corruption cases hard enough.

A version of trading U.S. aid for good behavior is even enshrined in U.S. law. Leahy Laws have been in effect since as early as 1997 and have been a part of the Foreign Assistance Act since 2008. Under the Leahy Laws, The Department of State and the Department of Defense are prohibited form providing military aid to foreign military forces that have a record of violating human rights. The U.S. does not publicly reveal which foreign military units it has cut off from aid under the Leahy Laws."

Where was the personal gain against his political opponents, lying cunt?

Such desperate asswipes.

 

[domer76]

I have said this a few times, every president has done the same ffs. That's why the Dems will end up bitterly regretting unleashing the dogs of Hell, it's their arses that will get bitten.

Desperate, lying cunts.

Where is the leverage exerted for his own personal gain against a political opponent?

 

[domer76]

Oh ffs, have you never heard of legal precedent? Just about every president has done the fucking same thing, you can't be that much of a partisan hack, can you?

Liar