97/72/43 - Approval numbers of the SOTU speech.

christiefan915 said:
No impartial listener could say he unified the country. He fed red meat to his followers and blew off the Democrats as usual. And what really gets me is how much he lied and exaggerated, and they're all giving him a pass for it.
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Well, Toxic admitted that the speech had "something for everyone"..... just like the carnival barker promises when the marks pay to get in. lol
 
christiefan915 said:
No impartial listener could say he unified the country. He fed red meat to his followers and blew off the Democrats as usual. And what really gets me is how much he lied and exaggerated, and they're all giving him a pass for it.
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he is offering to legalize like 2million people. Thats bad :/
 
Thing1 said:
The tax cut will be a big boost short-term.

Long term, it's fiscally irresponsible, and will likely dramatically increase the gap between the haves & have nots.
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Deficits are going to be much larger than projected. Many corporations will now pay zero taxes. Their numbers are offset by fantasy claims about revenue boosts from higher wages, and job creation.

Not going to happen. ATT gives thousand dollar bonuses, lays off thousands. Same with Walmart bonuses that will never be as high as the headline...laying off thousands of higher paid employees, and closing 60 stores.
 
Thing1 said:
It was hastily put together & passed so they could have an accomplishment for year 1. It wasn't thought out well - like Obamacare.

The bottom line is that the vast bulk of it ends up w/ the very rich. It's trickle-down.

One of the biggest economic problems we face right now - and one which continues to get worse - is the growing gap between rich & poor.
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They don't even know what loopholes they created. We're going to find out by this time next year. This is going to be as big of a disaster as the Bush tax cuts.
 
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Superfreak said:
No it isn't... predominantly because it sunsets the individual tax brackets.
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Which is exactly why it will expand the income divide. Corporate tax cuts are permanent, until the Dems take full control of Washington again. As history shows, the nation will be in a shambles by then.

But...given the corporate tax cuts, dividends will increase, which will go to the top tier in the country. Wealth gap widens.

Even before the sunset. Workers get $20-$40/week, wealthy get hundreds of thousands.
 
Yaya said:
Name something Obama didn't give himself credit for if it was good and something he didn't blame some else (mostly Bush) for. :pke:
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Asked/ answered. Before we examine the myriad social issues that were drastically changed under Obama.
 
christiefan915 said:
Never said I WATCHED it, you terminally-stupid ignoramus. I LISTENED to it while following different fact checkers online.

Let's see if you're honest enough to admit the speech was full of boasts, exaggerations and downright lies.

I doubt it.
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hahaha you've been caught. you didn't listen either. no way. I can read you like a book. As soon as you called it pessimistic yesterday I knew you were full of shit.
 
Royal Highness said:
hahaha you've been caught. you didn't listen either. no way. I can read you like a book. As soon as you called it pessimistic yesterday I knew you were full of shit.
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You are 100% wrong, dopey. And I'm not alone in thinking the speech was not all rainbows and kittens. Trump's Dark, Bloody-Minded State of the Union.

Furthermore I'm not a conservative with a vested interest in supporting trump right or wrong.
 
christiefan915 said:
You are 100% wrong, dopey. And I'm not alone in thinking the speech was not all rainbows and kittens. Trump's Dark, Bloody-Minded State of the Union.

Furthermore I'm not a conservative with a vested interest in supporting trump right or wrong.
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this is dark?? ( below) I don't think so..the Atlantic used to be worthwhile,now it's just more #neverTrump

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/1/30/16951490/trump-russia-dossier-cody-shearer-memo-nunes
Trump made liberal use of Lenny Skutniks, the invited guests who presidents use as foils for particular portions. Like the original Lenny Skutnik, a hero who rescued victims of a D.C. plane crash shortly before the 1982 State of the Union, many of Trump’s were heroes of disasters, whether natural or man-made: A Coast Guard petty officer who saved lives in Hurricane Harvey; a firefighter who combatted the California wildfires; a North Korean defector; the parents of a young American fatally sickened while in North Korean captivity; a soldier who fought ISIS in Raqqa; a Border Patrol agent targeted for killing by the gang MS-13; the parents of teens killed by the gang.

“These two precious girls were brutally murdered while walking together in their hometown,” Trump said. “Six members of the savage MS-13 gang have been charged with Kayla and Nisa’s murders.”

As is often the case, and as was the case in Trump’s pseudo-State of the Union in 2017 (newly inaugurated presidents don’t deliver true SOTUs), these moments were the most emotional. But many of them carried a dark undercurrent. This was particularly true of the MS-13 cases.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if you were impartial like the independents you would realize there weren't any lies.....
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