Air Force Reservist, Nestride Yumga, speaks about Black Oppression in the USA

BartenderElite said:
I believe in that - I believe that anyone can rise above any circumstance.

But that doesn't mean you don't stop fighting for equality. Most can chew gum & walk at the same time. You don't have to have a victim mentality to recognize inequality and fight against it.

That's who we are. Equality is one of our most important ideals as Americans. We could have said the same thing you said above when the British were taxing us but not allowing us representation - but we fought it, and asserted our own rights.

It's really as American as it gets. We don't ignore injustice. We take it head on.
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You call equality ... attacking innocents and burning down the city. You are a fucked up individual. There is no justice in that. :barf:
 
Darth Omar said:
Who would argue otherwise?

But you kind of blew off the black lady’s opinion—speaking as a black person. Why doesn’t BLM block traffic over all the black on black deaths in some urban areas?

Is that ‘not a fair question’ somehow? Did you notice the protestors didn’t really have an answer for it?
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I won't pretend to completely understand these issues - but what you're talking about are separate things.

One has to do with our gov't, law enforcement & justice system - one has to do w/ gang violence.

What would someone be stopping traffic for on the latter? And, btw, there have been very large demonstrations in Chicago regarding that violence. But that is at the criminal level. The best ways to improve that are to continue to bring more opportunity to those areas, and lift people out of poverty.

For the former, we're talking about things that are more systemic. Our system of justice, and the attitude and practices of law enforcement. These kinds of areas are traditionally where protest can demand changes and things that our government can do to bring about change.
 
BartenderElite said:
It's great to have her attitude - but just believing you're not oppressed doesn't erase clear discrimination that still exists in America.

I'm not sure why people think discrimination is "over." It's so far from over. It's everywhere, and it CAN be oppressive.

You don't have to have a victim mentality to recognize it and keep fighting it. We should always be fighting to improve America - all of us, on many fronts. Keep striving for better, for more equality, better justice, more opportunity. These aren't bad goals.
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Fucking spare it is only legal to discriminate against white males in the United States in both the private and public sectors.
 
BartenderElite said:
I won't pretend to completely understand these issues - but what you're talking about are separate things.

One has to do with our gov't, law enforcement & justice system - one has to do w/ gang violence.

What would someone be stopping traffic for on the latter? And, btw, there have been very large demonstrations in Chicago regarding that violence. But that is at the criminal level. The best ways to improve that are to continue to bring more opportunity to those areas, and lift people out of poverty.

For the former, we're talking about things that are more systemic. Our system of justice, and the attitude and practices of law enforcement. These kinds of areas are traditionally where protest can demand changes and things that our government can do to bring about change.
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I actually don’t disagree with the last part. But wouldn’t that be Democrats in this and many instances? Chauvin was a known entity, so why didn’t the local Democrat government do something about him?
 
FreeSpeech said:
Fucking spare it is only legal to discriminate against white males in the United States in both the private and public sectors.
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Do you have mommy issues? Is it necessary to continually have to interject race into everyone of your posts?
 
Darth Omar said:
I actually don’t disagree with the last part. But wouldn’t that be Democrats in this and many instances? Chauvin was a known entity, so why didn’t the local Democrat government do something about him?
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Sure. I don't really see this as a partisan thing. Like every issue, we instantly make it that - but there is plenty of blame to go around here.

The riots suck. But otherwise, there is a lot of positive that will come out of the past 2 weeks. The relationship between law enforcement and some communities has to change. The way law enforcement conducts itself has to change - and I say that as someone who appreciates police a great deal. I was surprised to find out that the knee-to-the-neck restraint is not really all that rare. Training for police has to improve; the cops who were standing to the side need to be more empowered to intervene.

This may change law enforcement dramatically, and that may not be a bad thing. They need to police their own - identify bad behavior early on, and either correct it if it's correctable, or fire someone if it's not. They can't have an adversarial relationship w/ the community, and they too often do. Protect & serve.

Hopefully, a lot of good will come out of this. Dem politicians need to step up, as does every other leader.
 
Sailor said:
Do you have mommy issues? Is it necessary to continually have to interject race into everyone of your posts?
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I was replying to a post claiming minorities are oppressed and I pointed out the fact that the only group in the country that is legally oppressed in this country are white males you dumb fuck. Race is literally the topic of the thread you fucking moron.
 
FreeSpeech said:
I was replying to a post claiming minorities are oppressed and I pointed out the fact that the only group in the country that is legally oppressed in this country are white males you dumb fuck. Race is literally the topic of the thread you fucking moron.
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That does not explain your race comments on everyone fucking one of your posts. Pipe down you racist asshole. People like you do not live long on the street, only cowering behind the safety of their keyboards.
 
FreeSpeech said:
I was replying to a post claiming minorities are oppressed and I pointed out the fact that the only group in the country that is legally oppressed in this country are white males you dumb fuck. Race is literally the topic of the thread you fucking moron.
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The dirty little secret is no one is actually ‘oppressed’ in this country. At least not in the way oppression is understood in the rest of the world.

Hence, the black woman in the OP.

We have some minorities *that are being told* they are oppressed. By white people lol.

You couldn’t make liberals up; they are beyond parody in so many instances.
 
Darth Omar said:
The dirty little secret is no one is actually ‘oppressed’ in this country. At least not in the way oppression is understood in the rest of the world.

Hence, the black woman in the OP.

We have some minorities *that are being told* they are oppressed. By white people lol.

You couldn’t make liberals up; they are beyond parody in so many instances.
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Bingo.
 
Darth Omar said:
The dirty little secret is no one is actually ‘oppressed’ in this country. At least not in the way oppression is understood in the rest of the world.

Hence, the black woman in the OP.

We have some minorities *that are being told* they are oppressed. By white people lol.

You couldn’t make liberals up; they are beyond parody in so many instances.
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I was watching Fox during the shutdowns and "mask controversies." A lot of right-wingers thought that was oppression.
 
The mistake on her part is invoking that she is an Air Force reservist. She shouldn't have done that. In doing so, she risks being either given an Article 15 NJP or court martial for using her military status at a political event. Just as she cannot protest in uniform, she cannot speak for the Air Force or make it appear that she is speaking for the Air Force. I don't know her rank, but if she's an E-1 to 6, she's hit. an E-7 to 9 or an officer, she probably will be given alternatives that don't involve actual disciplinary action like resigning or retiring.
Otherwise, she's entitled to her opinion.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The mistake on her part is invoking that she is an Air Force reservist. She shouldn't have done that. In doing so, she risks being either given an Article 15 NJP or court martial for using her military status at a political event. Just as she cannot protest in uniform, she cannot speak for the Air Force or make it appear that she is speaking for the Air Force. I don't know her rank, but if she's an E-1 to 6, she's hit. an E-7 to 9 or an officer, she probably will be given alternatives that don't involve actual disciplinary action like resigning or retiring.
Otherwise, she's entitled to her opinion.
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No, she didn't invoke it. It's just part of her 'resume".
 
BartenderElite said:
I won't pretend to completely understand these issues - but what you're talking about are separate things.

One has to do with our gov't, law enforcement & justice system - one has to do w/ gang violence.

What would someone be stopping traffic for on the latter? And, btw, there have been very large demonstrations in Chicago regarding that violence. But that is at the criminal level. The best ways to improve that are to continue to bring more opportunity to those areas, and lift people out of poverty.

For the former, we're talking about things that are more systemic. Our system of justice, and the attitude and practices of law enforcement. These kinds of areas are traditionally where protest can demand changes and things that our government can do to bring about change.
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We have systemic freedom. As the young woman said, "I am free, I am strong." People have the God-given right to freedom. It comes from within
when one decides how they want to display and use their freedom. Family units must become strong again. It must be the responsibility of fathers
to be the head of their own households, not the government. By age 18 one should know enough to take their freedom and make a good decent life for
themselves. Not to abuse that freedom and destroy the lifetime of work and efforts of others to make themselves feel more superior. All those
stolen toys and gadgets only give a momentary thrill to the thieves. In a few days they'll be as lost and desperate as they were prior to their rampage.
Then, it's on to the next violent momentary thrill.
Freedom, equality, confidence come from within. It's been 60 years, 3 generations...change has to come from within the community, family and self.
 
There is freedom in America...to leave if you feel that America is an oppressive country and you have no freedom.

Emigrate to Venezuela, bring food and batteries.

Or the “workers’ paradise” in Cuba where the average wage is 29 dollars per month, or China or the Russian Federation.

Exercise your freedom to leave, not your freedom to burn down America.
 
Stretch said:
We have systemic freedom. As the young woman said, "I am free, I am strong." People have the God-given right to freedom. It comes from within
when one decides how they want to display and use their freedom. Family units must become strong again. It must be the responsibility of fathers
to be the head of their own households, not the government. By age 18 one should know enough to take their freedom and make a good decent life for
themselves. Not to abuse that freedom and destroy the lifetime of work and efforts of others to make themselves feel more superior. All those
stolen toys and gadgets only give a momentary thrill to the thieves. In a few days they'll be as lost and desperate as they were prior to their rampage.
Then, it's on to the next violent momentary thrill.
Freedom, equality, confidence come from within. It's been 60 years, 3 generations...change has to come from within the community, family and self.
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Great post, Stretch.
 
Earl said:
There is freedom in America...to leave if you feel that America is an oppressive country and you have no freedom.

Emigrate to Venezuela, bring food and batteries.

Or the “workers’ paradise” in Cuba where the average wage is 29 dollars per month, or China or the Russian Federation.

Exercise your freedom to leave, not your freedom to burn down America.
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True to a point.
If one does not "feel free" here, they will not "feel free" anywhere. They will take their feeling of lack of freedom wherever they go with them.
Freedom comes from within. No one hands one freedom from the outside. America simply acknowledges and confirms that one has the
right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. One can screw up their earthbound freedom in any country if they choose to be free from
obeying laws of the land, common decency and common sense.
 
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