Alienate just one more old "Bone Spur" and who cares!

CFM said:
The ones that changed their vote from their 2015 vote knew it didn't matter then and it would be vetoed by Obama. When it comes to actually doing what they campaigned on doing, they showed the type people they are.

While I think S. Collins is nothing more than a RINO POS, at least she was consistent and you knew where she stood.
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I don't disagree with that analysis. That is why I say, the anger by RINOs like McShamnesty, Flake and Corker is that McCain is highlighting their duplicity. For years they had the luxury of talking a conservative game and even casting some conservative votes when they knew they would be vetoed or not get anywhere. But, now they have to actually get something done and they are shitting their pants.

We are holding them all accountable. The tide is shifting. We are taking America back
 
Jarod said:
Bone Spur has alienated enough Republican Senators now that he effectively no longer holds a majority in the Senate.

The "Republicans" have a majority, but no longer are a majority of Senators loyal to old "Bone Spur".

This is why I don't want "Bone Spur" impeached at least until next year... I think Pence would have a governing majority and might actually get some things accomplished.

"Bone Spur" won the election, but his personality and lies have cost him the ability to do much with it.
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I beg to disagree

he did not win the election


he cheated his way in
 
I Love America said:
I don't disagree with that analysis. That is why I say, the anger by RINOs like McShamnesty, Flake and Corker is that McCain is highlighting their duplicity. For years they had the luxury of talking a conservative game and even casting some conservative votes when they knew they would be vetoed or not get anywhere. But, now they have to actually get something done and they are shitting their pants.

We are holding them all accountable. The tide is shifting. We are taking America back
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Those that changed their votes from 2015 knew it was safe to vote the way they did and could use it for re-election purposes. When it came time to shit or get off the pot, they chose to shit on what they CLAIMED they supported.
 
I Love America said:
I don't disagree with that analysis. That is why I say, the anger by RINOs like McShamnesty, Flake and Corker is that McCain is highlighting their duplicity. For years they had the luxury of talking a conservative game and even casting some conservative votes when they knew they would be vetoed or not get anywhere. But, now they have to actually get something done and they are shitting their pants.

We are holding them all accountable. The tide is shifting. We are taking America back
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haha, I think you will see that the tide has reached its peak.
 
Jarod said:
1) I dont think they are turning their backs, I know that is the Bone Spur talking point, but it aint true.
2) I would not care if they were, I am just glad they are doing the right thing by America.
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McShamnesty campaigned on repealing Obamacare. We have showed you the campaign ads. He voted for it in 2015. What changed in 2017 other than there was someone in the White House who would actually sign it. So yes, by any measure of a sane person McShamnesty turned his back on what he promised to his voters.

As for number two, you are glad they are doing what you THINK is right by America. But that doesn't mean it necessarily is
 
Jarod said:
haha, I think you will see that the tide has reached its peak.
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If that were the case, you wouldn't see Flake and Corker resigning.

Have you noticed that the most vocal opponents in the Republican Party against Trump have decided their political fortunes are best led elsewhere.
 
Jarod said:
1) I dont think they are turning their backs, I know that is the Bone Spur talking point, but it aint true.
2) I would not care if they were, I am just glad they are doing the right thing by America.
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1) You don't think. That's your problem.

2) Refer to #1

If you cared for those that didn't have coverage, you would have personally provided it to them and left the government out of it. That you demand the government be a part of it is proof you don't care and that's fact.
 
I Love America said:
McShamnesty campaigned on repealing Obamacare. We have showed you the campaign ads. He voted for it in 2015. What changed in 2017 other than there was someone in the White House who would actually sign it. So yes, by any measure of a sane person McShamnesty turned his back on what he promised to his voters.

As for number two, you are glad they are doing what you THINK is right by America. But that doesn't mean it necessarily is
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1) When you don't do what you tell your constituents you're going to do while running, it's turning your back

2) Jarod is the kind that OK with people like that because he's so used to so many in his party being those you can't count on.
 
I Love America said:
McShamnesty campaigned on repealing Obamacare. We have showed you the campaign ads. He voted for it in 2015. What changed in 2017 other than there was someone in the White House who would actually sign it. So yes, by any measure of a sane person McShamnesty turned his back on what he promised to his voters.

As for number two, you are glad they are doing what you THINK is right by America. But that doesn't mean it necessarily is
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1) American War HERO McCain, would repeal Obamacare if it can be done without harming huge groups of Americans.
2) Correct it is MY OPINION.
 
I Love America said:
If that were the case, you wouldn't see Flake and Corker resigning.

Have you noticed that the most vocal opponents in the Republican Party against Trump have decided their political fortunes are best led elsewhere.
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I dont disagree that the Republican party is lurching far to the Right. I just think that the American voter is not.
 
CFM said:
1) When you don't do what you tell your constituents you're going to do while running, it's turning your back

2) Jarod is the kind that OK with people like that because he's so used to so many in his party being those you can't count on.
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Actually I disagree. When democrats have power they try to use that power. Republicans do not. That is why there is so much frustration amongst the base. It isn't about whether or not Trump is sufficiently conservative or not. It is that he has signaled he will sign conservative legislation because he wants to get deals. The GOP should be pushing legislative initiatives after another for him to sign.

That there are no legislative accomplishments is more a failure of McCuntell and Ryan than anything Trump is doing. Anyone who doesn't see that needs a civics lesson to learn how Congress is supposed to work
 
Jarod said:
Bone Spur has alienated enough Republican Senators now that he effectively no longer holds a majority in the Senate.

The "Republicans" have a majority, but no longer are a majority of Senators loyal to old "Bone Spur".

This is why I don't want "Bone Spur" impeached at least until next year... I think Pence would have a governing majority and might actually get some things accomplished.

"Bone Spur" won the election, but his personality and lies have cost him the ability to do much with it.[

what flakethe falke,mc caine who's is the poster boy for rhino's,as for coker this liar ,http://thehill.com/business-a-lobby...sen-corker-undervalued-his-wealth-by-millions.

is just that a liar and just another rhino.
you haven't seen anything yet ,we will get rid of the rest of the rhinos,by the way the president won 60% of the states,get over it hull ,you lost and you will loose again.
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I Love America said:
Actually I disagree. When democrats have power they try to use that power. Republicans do not. That is why there is so much frustration amongst the base. It isn't about whether or not Trump is sufficiently conservative or not. It is that he has signaled he will sign conservative legislation because he wants to get deals. The GOP should be pushing legislative initiatives after another for him to sign.

That there are no legislative accomplishments is more a failure of McCuntell and Ryan than anything Trump is doing. Anyone who doesn't see that needs a civics lesson to learn how Congress is supposed to work
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If you'll vote a certain way and campaign that you voted that way then vote differently on the same thing later when it really matters, you turned your back.
 
I Love America said:
Actually I disagree. When democrats have power they try to use that power. Republicans do not. That is why there is so much frustration amongst the base. It isn't about whether or not Trump is sufficiently conservative or not. It is that he has signaled he will sign conservative legislation because he wants to get deals. The GOP should be pushing legislative initiatives after another for him to sign.

That there are no legislative accomplishments is more a failure of McCuntell and Ryan than anything Trump is doing. Anyone who doesn't see that needs a civics lesson to learn how Congress is supposed to work
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Rightly or wrongly, Historically our Congress, when it has a majority in the same party as the President, has worked by having the president work hard leading them toward massing certain legislation and working to create an environment that pushes its passage. See how Obama was able to shepard his healthcare bill to passage, if the President fails to lead you get what you see now.
 
CFM said:
If you'll vote a certain way and campaign that you voted that way then vote differently on the same thing later when it really matters, you turned your back.
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The devil is in the details.
 
Jarod said:
Rightly or wrongly, Historically our Congress, when it has a majority in the same party as the President, has worked by having the president work hard leading them toward massing certain legislation and working to create an environment that pushes its passage. See how Obama was able to shepard his healthcare bill to passage, if the President fails to lead you get what you see now.
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The way Obama did it with just democrat party votes? Yeah, I saw that. That sort of makes my point doesn't it? The American people didn't want Obamacare. We didn't even need it. But they forced it on us anyway.
 
SO, let me ask you this...


Do you believe that if "Bone Spur" had treated McCain with dignity and respect Obamacare would have been repealed?
 
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