Another confederate statue removed

The Confederates were trying to destroy the United States. They were attacking to take over the country. They are not heroes. it would be like Israel having statues of Hitler and Eichman in their cities.
 
CFM said:
Being a coward is lame. Why do you support cowards?

Perhaps that's why you pussies that want to restrict gun ownership, or in some cases want guns gone altogether, always run from an opportunity to personally try and take what you say people shouldn't own.
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Why do you care you're not a citizen of the USA,but a later day Confederate!
 
Nordberg said:
The Confederates were trying to destroy the United States. They were attacking to take over the country. They are not heroes. it would be like Israel having statues of Hitler and Eichman in their cities.
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They wanted to leave and would have left peacefully had the Union left them alone.
 
dukkha said:
doesn't matter - removal is denial
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Denying what?

What is it that is "denied" by removing statues that glorify traitors?


putting things in a dusty library is the same thing as removal since the access is now limitedi nstead of public as the original intent.
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Ah, so the original intent was to force the glorification of traitors down the throats of the people those same traitors fought to keep as slaves.

Got it.
 
guno said:
PITTSBORO, N.C. After more than a century, a long-debated Confederate monument outside the Chatham County historic courthouse is no longer standing.

Crews dismantled the monument, including the statue and pedestal, on Tuesday. The items will be transported to a safe, undisclosed location where they will be preserved until the Winnie Davis Chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC) finds a more appropriate place to place them.


The North Carolina Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans released a statement on Wednesday morning, saying they were "outraged at the latest disturbing action of the Chatham County Board of Commissioners." :rolleyes:


https://abc11.com/society/chatham-c...vd-local-news-headlines-from-abc11-11/20/2019
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No one cares, NL
 
MASON said:
Another treasonous fool that supports the CSA not the USA
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At no point in my post am I supporting the Confederate States of America. I am merely pointing out the truth of why the South wanted to secede from the Union. To tell the truth is not necessarily agreeing with the premise of that truth. The North was no more interested in ending slavery then was the South. They wanted the tax revenues generated.
 
Nordberg said:
The Confederates were trying to destroy the United States. They were attacking to take over the country. They are not heroes. it would be like Israel having statues of Hitler and Eichman in their cities.
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What Northern cities did they attack? Would you consider the British attempting to breakaway from the European Union an act of war or treason? There is no fundamental difference between the South's actions in 1860 and the Brits today
 
ZILCHMONGER said:
What was the root cause of the War Between the States?

Conventional wisdom holds that the War Between the States was waged over slavery. The South was populated by racist rednecks that hated black people and would fight to the death to keep them in captivity while Northerners were all Enlightened Academics believing in Freedom and Justice for all. As is most “conventional wisdom” this is incorrect. The Civil War was fought, as are most if not all wars, for economic reasons with slavery being a byproduct of the economics of the times.

The issues leading to the war actually began as a result of the War of 1812. The fledgling United States had lost most of its international trade during this conflict. Although after the war England wanted to resume business with the US new domestic producers had taken over their former markets. In order to protect the new manufacturers Congress in its infinite wisdom passed huge tariffs, up to 60%, on imported goods. Most of these US manufacturers were located in the Northern States with markets primarily local shipping little to the Southern States) with the South concentrating on cotton production, which by 1830 was fully half of the world production of the product. This meant most of the goods needed by the South had to come from abroad and was extremely expensive due to high tariffs. .

Slavery came into the picture because cotton production was very labor intensive and slaves provided cheap labor. In 1860 the value of slaves was 20% of the entire wealth of the United States. The primary reason Southern States wanted new states to be “slave states” was for the same contemporary reason Democrats want Puerto Rico and Washington DC (two areas highly dependent on government handouts) to become states and want to count illegal’s as part of the population, more representation in Congress. Keep in mind there was no legislative action to end slavery in those states it already existed. The movement was to keep it from expanding in the future

The South now had its back to the wall with high prices due to import tariffs and diminishing cotton markets as a result of retaliation for the high tariffs. It wanted to split from the Union in order to establish its own trade policies. Since the South was actually richer than the North at the time and forced to buy more imported goods they provided higher tax revenues to the Federal government.

Thus, by favoring the North over the South we came to the root causes of the Civil War, potential economic ruin of the South. This was borne out in that after the war the South’s per capita income was only 50% of that in the North, a condition that lasted for almost 100 years after the war’s end.
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Odd how the majority of the Confederate States mentioned slavery in their articles of secession.
 
ZILCHMONGER said:
At no point in my post am I supporting the Confederate States of America. I am merely pointing out the truth of why the South wanted to secede from the Union. To tell the truth is not necessarily agreeing with the premise of that truth. The North was no more interested in ending slavery then was the South. They wanted the tax revenues generated.
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The war was about the south who took part in a election didn't like the outcome.Then attempted to steal southern states and start a country.
 
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