Archaeology of the New Testament

Into the Night said:
What is a 'neocon shit eater'??

This is two questions:

International sales benefit both the buyer and the seller. The buyer gets to obtain an imported product, and the seller gets to export his product and make the sale.

AI is a useful tool. You already admitted this yourself. Now you are back to mindlessly chanting 'AI is awful' without ever explaining why, and even contradicting yourself.

Satan does not want trade. He wants tyranny.
Satan does not want AI. He wants illiteracy.

So now you quote the Prose Erda. Satan is not in the Prose Erda.

Void argument fallacy.
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1. all neocons are shiteaters, regardless of party affiliation..

2. globalization is a race to the bottom for the people of all nations, only oligarchs benefit over time.

3. AI is oversold on capabilities and over leveraged by so many times that BIS is issuing warnings on the bubble.

4. AI is to put people out of work. they say so. thats the selling point. only evil people embrace AI.

5. Satan wants to replace people with AI and robots like libertarian Nazis.

:truestory:

enjoy hell, little bitch.
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
Driven by a robot made by a conscious being or simply by a conscious being? The speed of the car is chosen, directly or indirectly, by a conscious being. The failure of the tire assembly was due to a failure of design, improper maintenance and/or abuse by the driver. Regardless, at several points between the time the tire was manufactured to the point where it was launched into the air, a conscious human being was involved.

Overall, it's a flawed analogy for you to attempt to prove the Universe can come into existence randomly.

Worse, you continue to believe you are simply a soulless meat robot who can't choose to not rape, murder or steal since you have no free will. You are also a science denier who believes the Universe is chaotic and without rules. Your choice.
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A tire, not correctly attached, would eventually fly off without any conscious intervention. No conscious being would have to push/pull it off.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You've already admitted you can't control yourself. That you cannot choose since you have no free will.
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Yes. My brain makes decisions, but there are no "choices" for "me" to make because a) there is no "me" to make choices and b) the thoughts that go into the decision are out of my control. There's no "me" creating the thoughts or filtering the thoughts, preventing thoughts, etc.
 
ZenMode said:
A tire, not correctly attached, would eventually fly off without any conscious intervention. No conscious being would have to push/pull it off.
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It was a failure by a conscious being who put the tire on there....or do you believe the tire spontaneously generated and attached itself to the car for random reasons?
 
ZenMode said:
Yes. My brain makes decisions, but there are no "choices" for "me" to make because a) there is no "me" to make choices and b) the thoughts that go into the decision are out of my control. There's no "me" creating the thoughts or filtering the thoughts, preventing thoughts, etc.
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Duh. Potato, potahto. Maybe your rainbow farting unicorn exerts mind control on you? LOL
 
Dutch Uncle said:
It was a failure by a conscious being who put the tire on there....or do you believe the tire spontaneously generated and attached itself to the car for random reasons?
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I agree, unless an AI robot is involved, it would be an error by a being that would eventually result in the tire coming off.

But, again, the fact that every spin, bounce and movement can be explained after the fact does not make it automatically true that the tire was put into motion by a conscious being.

Cypress is arguing that the incredibly complex mathematical explanations for what what happens in the universe means that there is a being who designed the universe with this specific, complex calculations in mind.
 
ZenMode said:
I agree, unless an AI robot is involved, it would be an error by a being that would eventually result in the tire coming off.

But, again, the fact that every spin, bounce and movement can be explained after the fact does not make it automatically true that the tire was put into motion by a conscious being.

Cypress is arguing that the complex mathematical explanations for what what happens in the universe means that there is a being who designed the universe with this specific, complex calculations in mind.
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Who built the AI robot? :thinking:

Directly or indirectly, you magical tire exists and was launched due to a conscious being.

I'm not as certain about the cause and effect scenario like Cypress, but I do believe the Universe isn't just a random accident. There are laws and rules to the Universe. That doesn't seem random to me.

OTOH, if the multiverse theory is correct, with an infinite number of universes with different rules, then it could very well be random. Some universes produce life, some are dead. We got lucky.

That still doesn't answer the question of "first mover", but it does open a lot of possibilities.
 
ZenMode said:
There is no you. We use terms like me, I, you, etc for communication, but there is no separate part of your body that is the "you" or the self.
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Wow. Have you talked to a psychiatrist about that? :thinking:

Cogito, ergo sum.
 
ZenMode said:
Yes. My brain makes decisions, but there are no "choices" for "me" to make because a) there is no "me" to make choices and b) the thoughts that go into the decision are out of my control. There's no "me" creating the thoughts or filtering the thoughts, preventing thoughts, etc.
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of course there are choices for you to make.

you sound like a fucking idiot.
 
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Jerry Mathers said:
of course there are choices for you to make.

you should like a fucking idiot.
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Saying there is a choice implies there's more than one option that you could have chosen. While it may appear there are two or more choices (chocolate or vanilla ice cream?), since the ultimate decision is completely out of your control, there was no choice to do other than what you ultimately decided.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Who built the AI robot? :thinking:

Directly or indirectly, you magical tire exists and was launched due to a conscious being.

I'm not as certain about the cause and effect scenario like Cypress, but I do believe the Universe isn't just a random accident. There are laws and rules to the Universe. That doesn't seem random to me.

OTOH, if the multiverse theory is correct, with an infinite number of universes with different rules, then it could very well be random. Some universes produce life, some are dead. We got lucky.

That still doesn't answer the question of "first mover", but it does open a lot of possibilities.
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you're also selling your masonic devil scientism.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The fact you feel you have no control over your thoughts and actions.
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You don't control your thoughts. You don't know what your next thought is going to be until it gets into your consciousness, which is the last step in the process. Your thoughts are generated at a level of your brain that you have no visibility to or control of.
 
ZenMode said:
You don't control your thoughts. You don't know what your next thought is going to be until it gets into your consciousness, which is the last step in the process. Your thoughts are generated at a level of your brain that you have no visibility to or control of.
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How is your black and white view of the human condition, much less the world, is as extreme as those of JPP MAGAts. Sure, a different direction, but still extreme.

In the past, two major questions/discussions revolved around this issue: If life is common, then where is it besides Earth? and do we have Free Will"

The fact remains there's only life on Earth as far as we know despite a century of looking. Free will is not as black and white as some people think it is. Sure, we're a combination of genetics and life experience, but even if only 1% of what we think is "free will", why are you so opposed to it?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
How is your black and white view of the human condition, much less the world, is as extreme as those of JPP MAGAts. Sure, a different direction, but still extreme.

In the past, two major questions/discussions revolved around this issue: If life is common, then where is it besides Earth? and do we have Free Will"

The fact remains there's only life on Earth as far as we know despite a century of looking. Free will is not as black and white as some people think it is. Sure, we're a combination of genetics and life experience, but even if only 1% of what we think is "free will", why are you so opposed to it?
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I'm not opposed to it at all, there's just no reason, based on the neurological functionality of our brain, to believe it exists.

There really is no way it COULD exist.
 
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