He has made threats to do so...... TO abandon the very order the USA has made & cultivated to serve our own interests......... Far beyond the dude from tv's ability to comprehend, that is assuming he has the interest of the USA/West in mind...........
Biden/China "thought police" arrive in Hong Kong - new "National Security Law"
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He has made threats to do so...... TO abandon the very order the USA has made & cultivated to serve our own interests......... Far beyond the dude from tv's ability to comprehend, that is assuming he has the interest of the USA/West in mind...........
you GOT to be kiding? What the fuck?
do you know of the Chinese abuses of WTO and their "developing nation" status..of course you do .
it's an "order" not worth propping up. do the bi-lateral instead
it's called realpolitik.
but with US /China relations in the dumpster due to COVID -you'll see sanctionz
Did you bother to read post #20 before you flew off the handle??
bullshit, that is the opinion of the guy from tv that knows nothing of history or anything else.............
TOTAL BULLSHIT!!! ,trump SHIT!!!
It is an order essentially created by the USA & for the USA...... The dunce's inability to comprehend & work it for our benefit, says far more about him than the real smart guys that created it & milked it to serve their purposes & ends...
The CCP is already creating an alternative order~ their own order, while milking their wto relationship, as they have since day one...
How in the world anyone could believe leaving that order & structure to them is helping anyone but them is beyond me.........
& you'll see reprials, as they have already said. tit for tat........
Why doesn't mango cut off the hong kong special status??
exactly. why i always oppose sanctions for humanitarian grounds.& you'll see reprials, as they have already said. tit for tat........
Why doesn't mango cut off the hong kong special status??
Can Trump change special status, or is that Congress? *asking*
the WTO is a joke. we lodge complaints. they rule in our favor and absolutely nothing else happens.Did you bother to read post #20 before you flew off the handle??
bullshit, that is the opinion of the guy from tv that knows nothing of history or anything else.............
TOTAL BULLSHIT!!! ,trump SHIT!!!
It is an order essentially created by the USA & for the USA...... The dunce's inability to comprehend & work it for our benefit, says far more about him than the real smart guys that created it & milked it to serve their purposes & ends...
The CCP is already creating an alternative order~ their own order, while milking their wto relationship, as they have since day one...
How in the world anyone could believe leaving that order & structure to them is helping anyone but them is beyond me.........
This is why our bi-lateral has enforemenct mechanisms built in -so either China or the USA
can bring them up.
From what I have read, he can...... In part or whole.........
This would be a huge hammer to drop, & likely why he is reluctant to drop it but IMHO he will need to @ some point one way or the other..
The big boys on wallstreet/world markets will also take a hit & confusion/unknowns in the market isn't a good thing
Hopefully he is working on something to lessen the impact but I really don't see there is a choice to or not to.........
U.S. starts paring back Hong Kong's special status due to security law
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...cial-status-due-to-security-law-idUSKBN2402VY
Last month, U.S. President Donald Trump responded to China’s plans for the security law by saying he was initiating a process to eliminate the special economic treatment that has allowed Hong Kong to remain a global financial center since its handover by Britain in 1997.
Trump stopped short of calling for an immediate end to privileges, but said the moves would affect the full range of U.S. agreements with Hong Kong, from an extradition treaty to export controls on dual-use technologies and more “with few exceptions.”
the WTO is a joke. we lodge complaints. they rule in our favor and absolutely nothing else happens.
This is why our bi-lateral has enforemenct mechanisms built in -so either China or the USA
can bring them up.
That happens, & sometimes there is enforcement & compliance....
It is certainly not perfect but it is a tool..........
Simply put, would you rather have the USA running it or China??
If we leave it will still be there & the biggest game there will be China.....
IMHO more can be gained by working w/in then abandoning it to the ccp clutches....
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
Sorry, Bill, ... didn't mean to underestimate your knowledge. Anyway, after a year of HK protests it was beginning to look like the HK people "might" win their independence, so it had to be crushed.
We, the USA, spread capitalism into the USSR and took down that commie socialist gov't without firing a shot.
Nixon opened up China, and let capitalism in. Now, with a burgeoning middle class in China, I hope the same thing can happen there as in the USSR. They have tasted prosperity, and a bad China economy could cause an internal revolt by the middle class.
WTO is 100% meaningless / except for the perverse "developing nation status" given to China
We lodge complaints, but there is no enforcement
all this is why we went the bilateral route instead
you are talking in circles.We went over this I believe earlier..
Whatever the deal, they will cheat.......
Stay in the WTO because of "leadership" -your claim and I say "they cheat and getaway with it''
Then i say "use the bilateral enforcement provisions" and you say they will cheat
you are talking in circles.
Stay in the WTO because of "leadership" -your claim and I say "they cheat and getaway with it''
Then i say "use the bilateral enforcement provisions" and you say they will cheat
Think what best suits your arguments........
When you start forming your own opinions on this topic they will be appreciated.........
Any great country can do two things simultaneously, although not every person perhaps can, but I believe trump is capable of managing it, w/ help of course..