BLM chapter calls American flag 'symbol of hatred'

[Truth Detector]

how am I acting stupid , you claim money is the problem , I claim its not. I post examples that show we spend more then other nations yet get poor resul
Now as joe biden would say truth over facts . The evidence sure disputes your claim

LyingVagina426 doesn't believe in facts. He believes that if he says its so, that makes it so.

 

[Carmine]

The fallacy that America can't do for its citizens what smaller democracies do
completely ignores the fact that America has a much larger tax base than they do with which to pay for the programs.

 

[Truth Detector]

I think I know why you don't want all students to be funded equally;

WTF does this word salad even mean? Anyone?

you want to keep certain people trapped in their socioeconomic status because your status is threatened if they have mobility.

You just described the Democratic Party of the Jackass snowflake. They need losers in order to remain relevant. Imagine a society that was not beholden to their Government. The party of the Jackass would collapse into irrelevancy.

It's always personal with you people.

IRONY from a douchebag on steroids.

 

[LV426]

WTF does this word salad even mean? Anyone?
You just described the Democratic Party of the Jackass snowflake. They need losers in order to remain relevant. Imagine a society that was not beholden to their Government. The party of the Jackass would collapse into irrelevancy.
IRONY from a douchebag on steroids.

You said the election was stolen for three months, that it was the greatest theft in history, and then you had Trump inviting you to DC on 1/6 to stop the steal.

But you didn't go to DC on 1/6.

Why?

 

[Flash]

You did earlier in this thread when you chose the path of sophistry and didn't qualify anything you said.

If you conclude the Census Bureau data saying there was a 5% increase in per pupil expenditures in 2019 is saying it increased for everyone you are making an completely stupid and irrational conclusion that nobody else would ever conclude. You need lessons in math and logic.

I don't need to qualify something because you don't understand the concept. I'm assuming the reader has some level of intelligence.

Flash, that's YOUR JOB, not mine.

You are the one who is expected to know the topic you're introducing into this debate, not the people you're trying to debate with.

DO THE FUCKING WORK YOU LAZY ASSHOLE.

You lazy hypocrite. I proved my point when I showed the Census Bureau data that per pupil expenditures increased 5% in 2019.

You are the one who introduced the idea that not all school districts/pupils got an increase in per pupil expenditures. Since you made that claim you have the burden of proof.

You want me to prove my points and yours also. So far, you have presented 0 evidence to support your case.

I said it is common sense and math that all students do not get the same but you said it is not common sense. Therefore, you must have some evidence to support your case; after all, you are the one who made that claim--not me.

Let's see your evidence! Otherwise, we will assume all students got an increase in per capital spending since you argued it is not rational and logical to know they all did not.

Give us some proof. I shouldn't have to prove your case for you.

 

[LV426]

If you conclude the Census Bureau data saying there was a 5% increase in per pupil expenditures in 2019 is saying it increased for everyone you are making an completely stupid and irrational conclusion that nobody else would ever conclude.

So right here you're avoiding using critical thinking skills to present a false conclusion that you had already determined before you did any work.

don't need to qualify something

Yes, you do because doing so completely changes the information you're presenting.

You have this awful habit of doing that kind of thing.

 

[LV426]

You lazy hypocrite. I proved my point when I showed the Census Bureau data that per pupil expenditures increased 5% in 2019.

Here again you're making a false statement, Flash!

You didn't even mention that it was the average!

So you fucked up AGAIN the same way you fucked up earlier on this thread.

You are the one who introduced the idea that not all school districts/pupils got an increase in per pupil expenditures.

No YOU DID THAT when you tried to pass off this 5% increase, before readjusting your qualifiers to say it was the average.

And then you didn't even say it was the average when you just literally re-made the same dumb argument in this very post!

What the fuck is wrong with you? Something is seriously wrong with your brain. You need therapy. A lot of it.

 

[LV426]

You want me to prove my points and yours also.

All I have said, Flash, is that students are not funded evenly and equitably, therefore trying to represent a 5% increase in per pupil spending as applied to all students as you have done rhetorically on this thread is sophistry.

You are actively and deliberately not qualifying your statement as you try and form a false conclusion to make a false comparison or equivalence with other countries.

Every other country evenly and equitably funds their students...but we do not.

So you can't say broadly that American students have more spent on them per pupil than other students, nor can you say broadly that American students have seen a 5% increase in their per pupil spending because per-pupil spending in the US is not equitable or even. In fact, it's not even close to being equitable when you have a state like UT that spends $9,200 per pupil, and a state like NY that spends $28,200 per pupil.

So this entire argument you're making is all bullshit.

 

[Truth Detector]

You said the election was stolen for three months,

Every time you erupt with this lame LIE, I call you on it and ask to link me to the exact quote of me saying this. You flail and fail every time. Stop being such a sociopathic dunce.

that it was the greatest theft in history,

What was stolen you sociopathic lying dumbass?

and then you had Trump inviting you to DC on 1/6 to stop the steal.

I didn't get that invite you sociopathic lying dumbass. Why the bullshit?

But you didn't go to DC on 1/6.

Why?

I had much better things to do than attend a protest march in DC. I leave Democratic controlled shit holes to leftists.

 

[Flash]

Flash, your argument was that American students saw increases in funding and get more spent on them than students in other countries, but that is simply not true.

Nope. I said the U. S. was 4th in average per pupil expenditures. Period. I never said American students get more spent on them than students in other countries. What post did I say that? You are lying. The fact that the U. S. is fourth illustrates we do not spend more than at least three nations.

I did say students got an average increase in expenditures of 5% in 2019. That is a fact. No rational person would conclude that 5% increase applied to all students or even that all districts got an increase.

You can't compare US spending per pupil with other countries because US spending per pupil varies wildly between states, between counties, even between districts.

For example, Utah spends about $9,200 per pupil, and NY spends about $28,200 per pupil. In NY, parts of upstate NY spend about $11,000 per pupil, and parts of the NY metro area and Long Island spend about $40,000 per pupil.

So you can't compare other countries to ours because of how wildly variant per pupil spending is.

Also, we are the ONLY COUNTRY ON EARTH that funds our schools with property taxes. That leads to uneven outcomes by design. Poor students have less economic mobility because less is spent on their education than wealthy students, because school district funding is not even across the country.

So that's why this argument you're making is a stupid, sophist one.

Deflection. How spending compares in states or with other countries is an entire other argument that was never a part of this discussion.

My original point that average per pupil expenditures increased 5% in 2019 has not been refuted. You cannot even prove all districts did not see an increase in per pupil expenditure even though I content it is just common sense to assume they did not.

As usual, when you cannot refute the original claim you turn to an entire other topic, make up things the poster never said, and argue the the poster is wrong because he did not include his date of birth and favorite color.

You argue against straw men in order to get in partisan points.

 

[Truth Detector]

All I have said, Flash, is that students are not funded evenly and equitably, therefore trying to represent a 5% increase in per pupil spending as applied to all students as you have done rhetorically on this thread is sophistry.

You are actively and deliberately not qualifying your statement as you try and form a false conclusion to make a false comparison or equivalence with other countries.

Every other country evenly and equitably funds their students...but we do not.

So you can't say broadly that American students have more spent on them per pupil than other students, nor can you say broadly that American students have seen a 5% increase in their per pupil spending because per-pupil spending in the US is not equitable or even. In fact, it's not even close to being equitable when you have a state like UT that spends $9,200 per pupil, and a state like NY that spends $28,200 per pupil.

So this entire argument you're making is all bullshit.

^THIS, is why you cannot argue with a lying sociopath with the IQ of a lemming.

 

[LV426]

Nope. I said the U. S. was 4th in average per pupil expenditures.

Which tells you nothing because that average is skewed at the top.

So you're saying nothing.

 

[LV426]

Deflection. How spending compares in states or with other countries is an entire other argument that was never a part of this discussion.

I truly believe you have early onset dementia or Alzheimer's because you can't even remember what you write within the same fucking post.

1. How is it a deflection when it is addressing your topic directly?

2. Of course how it compares to other countries was a part of the discussion you literally quoted yourself saying it:

I said the U. S. was 4th in average per pupil expenditures.

4th compared to whom?

Jesus fucking Christ...

 

[LV426]

My original point that average per pupil expenditures increased 5% in 2019 has not been refuted.

Because it means nothing.

It is meaningless without context.

It's saying "apples and oranges are the same thing because they're both fruit".

So you're hanging your hat on low standards.

Why am I not surprised?

 

[Flash]

Because it means nothing.

It is meaningless without context.

Then why spend 20 posts on a simple fact that means nothing? I'll bet if the fact showed per pupil expenditures had been declining you would be yelling about it.

 

[LV426]

You cannot even prove all districts did not see an increase in per pupil expenditure even though I content it is just common sense to assume they did not.

You assume that some districts did not see an increase in per pupil spending? No one would know that based on what you've written on this thread.

As usual, when you cannot refute the original claim you turn to an entire other topic, make up things the poster never said, and argue the the poster is wrong because he did not include his date of birth and favorite color.

My expectation is that you would hold yourself to a higher standard.

You consistently fail to reach those expectations.

That's why I'm so disrespectful to you; I expect more out of you, since you were given every advantage in life to excel and set higher standards for yourself, you just choose not to do so. I believe it's because you're lazy.

 

[Getin the ring]

America has never been more fair to minorities, ever.
FAct is the playing field has been tilted their way.

but here you have the Democrat party still playing the race card.

Maybe their hope is that someday this country will be able to elect a Black President, or vice president even.
I suppose they have to keep hope alive

 

[Flash]

I truly believe you have early onset dementia or Alzheimer's because you can't even remember what you write within the same fucking post.

Then show me the post where I said the U. S. spends more than all other countries. Showing it is fourth shows we do not spend more than every other country. Your rationality rather than my memory is the problem.

4th compared to whom?

Jesus fucking Christ...

Other nations

 

[LV426]

Then why spend 20 posts on a simple fact that means nothing?

I'm not talking about how that simplistic thing means nothing, I'm talking about how you use that simplistic bullshit to advance half-truths and nonsense.

I'll bet if the fact showed per pupil expenditures had been declining you would be yelling about it.

You aren't even on my level when it comes to this topic because I'm so far ahead of you on this, you're truly left behind.

It's not about what those per pupil expenditures amounts are, it's about how those expenditures are not equitable for all students.

You want to talk gross numbers, but I want to talk about how those gross numbers are not equitable, because that is a beneficial discussion and debate to have.

You keep trying to steer the conversation away from that because you understand on some level that if education is not equitable, that means there is something systemic in it that is making it inequitable.

And we know that you don't believe in structural or systemic things, so having to admit to structural problems with our education system would be conceding the point that structural imbalance exists, and that it's largely around the basis of race.

 

[Flash]

You assume that some districts did not see an increase in per pupil spending? No one would know that based on what you've written on this thread.

Anybody reading this thread would know that because I have only said 10 times that the concept of average and common sense tell us every student did not receive the same increases. You are the one who does not think that is a given and needs to have it explained to you.

My expectation is that you would hold yourself to a higher standard.

You consistently fail to reach those expectations.

That's why I'm so disrespectful to you; I expect more out of you, since you were given every advantage in life to excel and set higher standards for yourself, you just choose not to do so. I believe it's because you're lazy.

Sorry I disappoint you. But, at least my standards are much higher than yours. I provided evidence that average per pupil expenditures increased 5% in 2019. That was the only claim I made. You want to argue about things I never said or implied.

On the other hand, you have given us no evidence that all districts did not get an increase in per pupil expenditures. You keep claiming they did not but we know your claims are often incorrect. Where is the evidence?

And, why do you expect me to prove my claims and yours also? You are the one who argued with my simple facts saying "not all students." Show us.