English your second language? My creepers, stalkers, and lurkers accused me of lying. Not of posting bad information.
California lands six universities in the global top 25
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^^ An admission you did not know the Nobel peace Committee was a completely different Norwegian group distinct from the Swedish national academy of sciences group.
Explain how CalTech is a "leftist indoctrination center".
I never heard any politics discussed in my calculus, physics, chemistry, statistics, astronomy, biology classes.
Wow, that’s all you have for a rebuttal?Look how triggered he is, now writing long-winded excessively verbose tirades, after repeatedly failing to prove I "lied"
I accept your unconditional surrender.
What's to rebut? You and Matt repeatedly failed to prove I 'lied', and then your last resort was to massively attempt word-parsing whether Phantasmal, Owl, Christiefan, Dutch are either my 'friends', 'pals', 'buddies', 'cohorts' , 'comrades', or 'chums'.
cawacko
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For those not from California, this sums things up pretty well. This 91 year old guy, who bought his home in 1967 for $25K, has been the leader fighting against this new housing development in Brisbane (borders SF on the South).
He's saying I like my neighborhood/city how it's always been and I don't want it to change. It's the ultimate F you, I've got mine attitude. And his mindset is basically if don't like it you hate the state and move to Tennessee or somewhere else.
And the thing is, he's not unique. There are people like this in all cities here which is why we've underbuilt for five decades and a major reason prices are so high.
A couple of decades from now, if developers have their way, Caltrain riders leaving Bayshore Station will look out over a new carbon-neutral neighborhood of apartment buildings, tree-lined streets and plazas. But as former Brisbane Mayor Ray Miller clutched his cane at that little-used stop on a recent afternoon, he was pleased to see only towering weeds, rusting fences and a grassy mound where one of the Bay Area’s largest garbage dumps once sat.
“What makes me angry,” he said, “is thinking about what this place might become.”
Miller, 91, is hardly alone. For the past 21 years, he and many other Brisbane residents have opposed efforts to transform the roughly 680-acre former industrial site straddling the San Francisco border into a mixed-use development with thousands of homes. They fear the proposed Baylands project, which could more than double the population of their hillside suburb, would threaten Brisbane’s small-town character while posing serious long-term environmental and health risks.
Yet as California’s housing crisis has worsened, state officials have become less willing to accept those concerns as justification for blocking more homes. In July, after Brisbane repeatedly missed deadlines to approve a plan for up to 2,200 homes on the Baylands site that would cover 81% of its state-mandated housing allocation, California ruled the city out of compliance with state housing laws.
That puts Brisbane at risk of civil penalties, a lawsuit or the loss of state funding if it doesn’t adopt the plan. Now, as housing advocates wait to see what Brisbane does next, this community of 4,700 residents just south of San Francisco finds itself at the center of a heated statewide debate: Can California’s increasingly aggressive enforcement of housing laws accomplish what years of planning mandates couldn’t?
“It’s pretty ironic when you think about it,” said Jeremy Levine, policy manager for the Housing Leadership Council of San Mateo County, which has worked to educate Brisbane residents on the Baylands project. “This community was so determined to protect what makes it special that it actually ended up with less control over its future.”
Most California cities are well behind on their state-mandated housing targets. But of the dozen or so that the state has deemed noncompliant, none matters more to the Bay Area housing shortage than Brisbane. The Baylands site, with its sprawling acreage near Highway 101, public transit and major employment centers in San Francisco and Silicon Valley, could make a significant dent in one of the nation’s most severe regional job-housing imbalances.
Pressure has been building in Brisbane, where the median home sale price more than doubled to $1.3 million in 2022 from $597,500 in 2012, according to the city’s housing plan. For young people who grew up here, the prospect of staying — or coming back — can feel out of reach.
“I think I’m going to pursue a career in tech sales, just because I hope to afford a house in my hometown someday,” said Sebastian Bousquet, an 18-year-old Brisbane native now attending the University of San Diego. “I want to have a family, and give my kids a childhood like the one I had, which will probably cost a lot of money.”
Nearly eight years after Brisbane voters approved housing plans for the Baylands site, city leaders have yet to adopt the zoning needed to build them. The Brisbane Planning Commission voted unanimously last month to recommend the City Council finally adopt the plan. Last Thursday, the council scheduled a final vote in October, setting up a test of whether California can compel local officials to approve housing.
“What’s happening in Brisbane really is a fascinating case study for this new approach the state has taken with its housing laws,” said Christopher Elmendorf, a law professor at UC Davis who’s a leading authority on California housing law. “A lot of eyes will be on those City Council meetings.”
Brisbane has long attracted outsize attention on housing-related issues. For decades, developers have eyed the Baylands’ vast expanse of dry grass, weeds, dirt and gravel for its real estate potential.
The official Baylands development website reads like an urbanist fever dream for sustainable living: A massive solar farm. An on-site fleet of electric cars for residents. Zero carbon footprint. But to many current Brisbane residents, those renderings of futuristic streetscapes might feel borderline delusional.
The Baylands site was once where San Francisco dumped its garbage and Southern Pacific railroad repaired its trains. Cleaning up the lingering contamination will likely require at least hundreds of millions of dollars and three years of soil work.
“The whole thing is just ridiculous,” said Miller, a retired San Francisco State professor with a white beard. “They used to burn tires over there. You don’t mess with that.”
Miller and his wife, Anja, bought their yellow two-story house in Brisbane for $25,000 in 1967, the same year the landfill closed. They grew to love their small town, which owes its “City of Stars” nickname to an annual holiday ritual in which locals hang huge illuminated stars on their homes. At a downtown park, fire hydrants are painted in bright colors, then later retired to the town’s tiny hydrant graveyard.
The couple entered local politics, each serving on the City Council and as mayor. Miller was on the council in 1980 when, after years of fighting a massive development project on San Bruno Mountain, the city helped convince the federal government to declare the mountain critical habitat for the endangered callippe silverspot butterfly. Nine years later, as mayor, he helped negotiate a settlement with a developer — who sued him personally — to scale back another proposed development on the mountain.
But nothing could prepare Brisbane for the battle over the Baylands.
The saga began in 2004, when development group Universal Paragon Corp. applied to build 1 million square feet of commercial and retail space on the old landfill. The proposal called for shopping centers, offices, auto dealerships and hotels — but not housing, which the developer said was incompatible with the site’s contamination.
The plan evolved over the years as environmental studies and cleanup proposals developed, and demand for housing grew. By 2010, the proposal called for about 4,400 homes, mostly concentrated in the northwest corner of the Baylands site, away from the old landfill.
As neighbors aired their opposition to the project, housing activists cast Brisbane as a poster child for the NIMBY movement. Early in the city’s negotiations with Baylands developers, for example, a City Council member had even suggested skirting a state law that requires cities to plan for new housing — by zoning for homes at the bottom of the Brisbane lagoon.
In 2016, the City Council was still pushing for a Baylands plan devoted entirely to retail when a quote from Mayor Cliff Lentz published in the Chronicle went viral: “We’ll provide the commercial — S.F. will provide the housing.” To pro-housing activists, the quip captured their mounting frustration with the limits of local control over sprawling housing projects.
Proposition 13 — the 1978 California law that caps property tax rates and limits increases in assessed property value — created a powerful incentive for cities to favor commercial development over housing. And that’s not even accounting for what author Jennifer Mapes, who has written extensively about small-town development, calls the “charm factor.”
Brisbane residents take immense pride in their 3-square-mile community’s slightly eclectic, self-contained civic culture. “In a place like that, tradition really matters,” Mapes said. “When faced with the prospect of such expansive growth, it’s almost natural for people to kind of freak out.”
In late 2017, desperate to push the project forward after more than a decade with minimal progress, the California Legislature threatened to strip Brisbane of its control over the Baylands if it didn’t approve thousands of homes. Left with little choice, the City Council introduced a ballot measure that offered a compromise: 2,200 housing units.
It narrowly passed in November 2018.
“I felt like a gun was held to our heads,” then-Mayor Clarke Conway recently recalled.
But Anthony Walker, chair of Brisbane’s Open Space & Ecology Committee, points out that the project is far from the older cottages and modest apartment buildings that line Brisbane’s quaint downtown. Bounded by Highway 101 to the east, and Bayshore Boulevard to the west and south, the Baylands would feel like its own district.
“It’s possible for us to have the best of both worlds,” Walker said. “We can have modern conveniences while still holding on to what makes Brisbane special.”
In recent years, as some Brisbane residents continued to voice concerns about town character and environmental contamination, Baylands supporters often heard little more than delay tactics.
Jonathan Scharfman, who served as general manager for the development group behind the Baylands from 2005 to 2019, notes that San Francisco’s Mission Bay was also once an old rail yard requiring extensive cleanup. Today, it’s a fast-rising neighborhood of life science campuses, office space, retail and housing.
Miller gripped his cane as he gazed up at the house they shared for nearly six decades.
“I speak up because I love this place,” he said. “It’s my home, and it always will be.”
www.sfchronicle.com
He's saying I like my neighborhood/city how it's always been and I don't want it to change. It's the ultimate F you, I've got mine attitude. And his mindset is basically if don't like it you hate the state and move to Tennessee or somewhere else.
And the thing is, he's not unique. There are people like this in all cities here which is why we've underbuilt for five decades and a major reason prices are so high.
This S.F. suburb lost control of its housing. What happens now?
A couple of decades from now, if developers have their way, Caltrain riders leaving Bayshore Station will look out over a new carbon-neutral neighborhood of apartment buildings, tree-lined streets and plazas. But as former Brisbane Mayor Ray Miller clutched his cane at that little-used stop on a recent afternoon, he was pleased to see only towering weeds, rusting fences and a grassy mound where one of the Bay Area’s largest garbage dumps once sat.
“What makes me angry,” he said, “is thinking about what this place might become.”
Miller, 91, is hardly alone. For the past 21 years, he and many other Brisbane residents have opposed efforts to transform the roughly 680-acre former industrial site straddling the San Francisco border into a mixed-use development with thousands of homes. They fear the proposed Baylands project, which could more than double the population of their hillside suburb, would threaten Brisbane’s small-town character while posing serious long-term environmental and health risks.
Yet as California’s housing crisis has worsened, state officials have become less willing to accept those concerns as justification for blocking more homes. In July, after Brisbane repeatedly missed deadlines to approve a plan for up to 2,200 homes on the Baylands site that would cover 81% of its state-mandated housing allocation, California ruled the city out of compliance with state housing laws.
That puts Brisbane at risk of civil penalties, a lawsuit or the loss of state funding if it doesn’t adopt the plan. Now, as housing advocates wait to see what Brisbane does next, this community of 4,700 residents just south of San Francisco finds itself at the center of a heated statewide debate: Can California’s increasingly aggressive enforcement of housing laws accomplish what years of planning mandates couldn’t?
“It’s pretty ironic when you think about it,” said Jeremy Levine, policy manager for the Housing Leadership Council of San Mateo County, which has worked to educate Brisbane residents on the Baylands project. “This community was so determined to protect what makes it special that it actually ended up with less control over its future.”
Most California cities are well behind on their state-mandated housing targets. But of the dozen or so that the state has deemed noncompliant, none matters more to the Bay Area housing shortage than Brisbane. The Baylands site, with its sprawling acreage near Highway 101, public transit and major employment centers in San Francisco and Silicon Valley, could make a significant dent in one of the nation’s most severe regional job-housing imbalances.
Pressure has been building in Brisbane, where the median home sale price more than doubled to $1.3 million in 2022 from $597,500 in 2012, according to the city’s housing plan. For young people who grew up here, the prospect of staying — or coming back — can feel out of reach.
“I think I’m going to pursue a career in tech sales, just because I hope to afford a house in my hometown someday,” said Sebastian Bousquet, an 18-year-old Brisbane native now attending the University of San Diego. “I want to have a family, and give my kids a childhood like the one I had, which will probably cost a lot of money.”
Nearly eight years after Brisbane voters approved housing plans for the Baylands site, city leaders have yet to adopt the zoning needed to build them. The Brisbane Planning Commission voted unanimously last month to recommend the City Council finally adopt the plan. Last Thursday, the council scheduled a final vote in October, setting up a test of whether California can compel local officials to approve housing.
“What’s happening in Brisbane really is a fascinating case study for this new approach the state has taken with its housing laws,” said Christopher Elmendorf, a law professor at UC Davis who’s a leading authority on California housing law. “A lot of eyes will be on those City Council meetings.”
Brisbane has long attracted outsize attention on housing-related issues. For decades, developers have eyed the Baylands’ vast expanse of dry grass, weeds, dirt and gravel for its real estate potential.
The official Baylands development website reads like an urbanist fever dream for sustainable living: A massive solar farm. An on-site fleet of electric cars for residents. Zero carbon footprint. But to many current Brisbane residents, those renderings of futuristic streetscapes might feel borderline delusional.
The Baylands site was once where San Francisco dumped its garbage and Southern Pacific railroad repaired its trains. Cleaning up the lingering contamination will likely require at least hundreds of millions of dollars and three years of soil work.
“The whole thing is just ridiculous,” said Miller, a retired San Francisco State professor with a white beard. “They used to burn tires over there. You don’t mess with that.”
Miller and his wife, Anja, bought their yellow two-story house in Brisbane for $25,000 in 1967, the same year the landfill closed. They grew to love their small town, which owes its “City of Stars” nickname to an annual holiday ritual in which locals hang huge illuminated stars on their homes. At a downtown park, fire hydrants are painted in bright colors, then later retired to the town’s tiny hydrant graveyard.
The couple entered local politics, each serving on the City Council and as mayor. Miller was on the council in 1980 when, after years of fighting a massive development project on San Bruno Mountain, the city helped convince the federal government to declare the mountain critical habitat for the endangered callippe silverspot butterfly. Nine years later, as mayor, he helped negotiate a settlement with a developer — who sued him personally — to scale back another proposed development on the mountain.
But nothing could prepare Brisbane for the battle over the Baylands.
The saga began in 2004, when development group Universal Paragon Corp. applied to build 1 million square feet of commercial and retail space on the old landfill. The proposal called for shopping centers, offices, auto dealerships and hotels — but not housing, which the developer said was incompatible with the site’s contamination.
The plan evolved over the years as environmental studies and cleanup proposals developed, and demand for housing grew. By 2010, the proposal called for about 4,400 homes, mostly concentrated in the northwest corner of the Baylands site, away from the old landfill.
As neighbors aired their opposition to the project, housing activists cast Brisbane as a poster child for the NIMBY movement. Early in the city’s negotiations with Baylands developers, for example, a City Council member had even suggested skirting a state law that requires cities to plan for new housing — by zoning for homes at the bottom of the Brisbane lagoon.
In 2016, the City Council was still pushing for a Baylands plan devoted entirely to retail when a quote from Mayor Cliff Lentz published in the Chronicle went viral: “We’ll provide the commercial — S.F. will provide the housing.” To pro-housing activists, the quip captured their mounting frustration with the limits of local control over sprawling housing projects.
Proposition 13 — the 1978 California law that caps property tax rates and limits increases in assessed property value — created a powerful incentive for cities to favor commercial development over housing. And that’s not even accounting for what author Jennifer Mapes, who has written extensively about small-town development, calls the “charm factor.”
Brisbane residents take immense pride in their 3-square-mile community’s slightly eclectic, self-contained civic culture. “In a place like that, tradition really matters,” Mapes said. “When faced with the prospect of such expansive growth, it’s almost natural for people to kind of freak out.”
In late 2017, desperate to push the project forward after more than a decade with minimal progress, the California Legislature threatened to strip Brisbane of its control over the Baylands if it didn’t approve thousands of homes. Left with little choice, the City Council introduced a ballot measure that offered a compromise: 2,200 housing units.
It narrowly passed in November 2018.
“I felt like a gun was held to our heads,” then-Mayor Clarke Conway recently recalled.
But Anthony Walker, chair of Brisbane’s Open Space & Ecology Committee, points out that the project is far from the older cottages and modest apartment buildings that line Brisbane’s quaint downtown. Bounded by Highway 101 to the east, and Bayshore Boulevard to the west and south, the Baylands would feel like its own district.
“It’s possible for us to have the best of both worlds,” Walker said. “We can have modern conveniences while still holding on to what makes Brisbane special.”
In recent years, as some Brisbane residents continued to voice concerns about town character and environmental contamination, Baylands supporters often heard little more than delay tactics.
Jonathan Scharfman, who served as general manager for the development group behind the Baylands from 2005 to 2019, notes that San Francisco’s Mission Bay was also once an old rail yard requiring extensive cleanup. Today, it’s a fast-rising neighborhood of life science campuses, office space, retail and housing.
Miller gripped his cane as he gazed up at the house they shared for nearly six decades.
“I speak up because I love this place,” he said. “It’s my home, and it always will be.”
This S.F. suburb lost control of its housing. What happens now?
After decades fighting development, can state enforcement force through housing proposals in the Bay Area city?
www.sfchronicle.com
It is basically impossible to do it part time, or at least impossible to do part time at the school I was at. It meant a commitment of 60+ hours a week for years, which I just could not make. And the money is a joke compared to what you could earn.
gfm7175
Jesus is LORD!
Leftist indoctrinators, leftist students, political donations go to leftists, etc... It's pretty easy to explain.
Probably because you weren't paying attention.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
I'm not sure how it is in your language but in English, we require a verb in every sentence. Your question is correctly expressed "Is English your second language? "
Yes, you lie often, deliberately. Let's take the issue of atheists and of their lack of theistic belief, as one example. You have been informed over a dozen times of the correct meaning of the term, along with having the Greek roots explained to you. Nonetheless, you insist on basing your erroneous assertions on your intentional dishonesty. You take great pride in spreading misinformation that you know to be untrue.
Every thread that you create is based on some false premise that you repeat despite having been corrected multiple times.
Ask anyone who ever took a university physics, chemistry, calculus, or statistics class if politics was discussed and taught in class.
You know what you'll discover?
Yep, that's right. They'll all agree with what I said.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
Explain how it's not.
... perhaps because you only imagined attending. You still believe in quarks and bosons.
Do you even now what Caltech is? It is a science college.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
1. I made no such admission
2. You are pivoting again
3. You are once again pretending to declare what I know and what I do not
i.e. you are lying yet again.
WTF is this bullshit?
HaHaHa, I will chalk you up alongside Moose and Matt as just another poster who utterly failed to prove I "lied"
I knew a Mormon guy with like five kids and a wife working on his PhD. I'm not even sure if he finished.It is basically impossible to do it part time, or at least impossible to do part time at the school I was at. It meant a commitment of 60+ hours a week for years, which I just could not make. And the money is a joke compared to what you could earn.
Almost all the people I can remember who got their PhD in their 20s were either single and full time students, or if they were married they didn't have kids.
IBDaMann
Probably the worse human in the threads
You pretend to be a genius on topics of which you know nothing, and you pretend to know nothing of your own embarrassing, indefensible positions. Too funny!
Too funny! This, after I prove that you are a habitual liar. Your denial is epic.
cawacko
Well-known member
My father wrote his history for the family before he passed. In it he included this blurb about academia:
In the Ph.D. program I was a Real Estate major and Finance minor. My initial plan was
to follow in (name) path and stay in Columbus and work for (company).
However, one thing I found out early in the program was that all my fellow Ph.D.
students thought research and publishing were their primary career goals and measure
of success. And further, only if you couldn’t accomplish these objectives, did you go into
business, otherwise known as the “dark side”. To avoid this terrible fate, I developed a
plan. It was to go into academia after graduation, teach, research and publish until I
earned tenure. Then no one could say he couldn’t make it in academics.
In the Ph.D. program I was a Real Estate major and Finance minor. My initial plan was
to follow in (name) path and stay in Columbus and work for (company).
However, one thing I found out early in the program was that all my fellow Ph.D.
students thought research and publishing were their primary career goals and measure
of success. And further, only if you couldn’t accomplish these objectives, did you go into
business, otherwise known as the “dark side”. To avoid this terrible fate, I developed a
plan. It was to go into academia after graduation, teach, research and publish until I
earned tenure. Then no one could say he couldn’t make it in academics.
HaHaHa, delving into the archaic Greek root of words isn't proof of anything.
And I rarely ever read your posts on religion, so there is no requirement for me to adopt the lexicon of whatever bullshit you were writing, or to remember your explorations of ancient Greek linguistics
Translation: "Why can't everyone else hate Cypress as much as I do?
"Why so upset Perry? You interject and butt in all the time when I am exchanging posts with someone else.
You still have not presented any tangible evidence that CalTech is a leftist indoctrination center.