Can we all agree on this about voting in November?

Clinton is not Congress.

Obama is not Congress.

Legislative and judicial games were played in order to get Obamacare passed.
Clinton and Obama were able to get stuff done, while trump is only able to whine about how much of a failure he is.
 
President Trump inherited ~ one million dollars. That’s about 5 million in today’s dollars.

He converted that 1 million to a net worth of 6.5 to 7 billion.
Your source, trump, is a known liar.

Either this forum or my I-Pad has slowed to the point of being almost unusable…is yours?
They have definitely upped their ads, which might be slowing things down. Or, it might be a bug in the software. But, my guess is the website is being attacked. Yes, I do notice it too. It is not your iPad.
 
Isn't it amazing how Clinton was able to get a surplus, and Obama could get Obamacare without a supermajority?
Logic isn't your strong suit. Ask me how I know.

Explain how the DNC owning sufficient # of RINOs amounts to Republicans controlling Democrats.

I say we give power back to the party that can get stuff done, ...
MAGA isn't a party, and it's getting everything done. We the People have only gotten started.
 
The Dems are always better on the economy and programs for the people.There is no truth in your posting. You are a die-hard Trumpy.
Yep,....the left LOVES them some PROGRAMS. Especially the kind that gives them something for nothing. All paid for by OTHER peoples money of course.
 
Clinton and Obama were able to get stuff done, while trump is only able to whine about how much of a failure he is.
Trump is "get[ting] stuff done" even with leftist activists in black robes trying to block him at every turn from executing his official duties as Chief Executive.
 
You would think we could all agree that trump should be judged on whether he put us on a right or wrong track. We would disagree on whether he did put us on a right track or wrong track, but agree that he should be judged on what track he put us on. I am hearing a lot of "trump should not be judged on his accomplishments" from the alt right posters. Actually, I am just asking that he be judged on the track he has put us on, not whether he accomplished that track.

As for the excuses that it is not trump's fault that he can get nothing done... If someone cannot do the job, they need to be gotten rid of.

@gfm7175 @Stone @IBDaMann @T. A. Gardner @Earl @Yakuda @Librtlover
 
You would think we could all agree that trump should be judged on whether he put us on a right or wrong track. We would disagree on whether he did put us on a right track or wrong track, but agree that he should be judged on what track he put us on. I am hearing a lot of "trump should not be judged on his accomplishments" from the alt right posters. Actually, I am just asking that he be judged on the track he has put us on, not whether he accomplished that track.

As for the excuses that it is not trump's fault that he can get nothing done... If someone cannot do the job, they need to be gotten rid of.

@gfm7175 @Stone @IBDaMann @T. A. Gardner @Earl @Yakuda @Librtlover
Well, let's see:

Border security and illegal immigration. Trump is 150% on that. Secure border, or as secure as you can make it given 16 months of no illegals released into the US straight. Building a border wall. Great idea. Strong fences make good neighbors. Rounding up and deporting people who are here illegally? Finally! Somebody doing something right!

Foreign policy: We've stopped paying for Ukraine's war with Russia. Not our problem to begin with. We're definitely not a door mat to the world today. The Iran - Houthi situation is, at this point, indeterminate in outcome. Trump just got a partial win on Greenland too.

Tariffs: Mixed bag. Some have proved highly successful, others not successful. Congress has failed to act on trade otherwise so at least Trump is trying something.

Courts: On the whole, the courts have been getting a proverbial smackdown with this administration. District court judges lost their ability to make nationwide injunctions and rulings due to their abuse of this by Leftist judges against Trump. On the whole it's something like courts: 5, Trump administration: 20 to use a sports analogy.

Economy: It's doing okay. Not great, not bad, okay.

On the whole, Trump has done far better than Biden, and about the same as Obama but in different areas. The two each have their good and bad points going for them. Biden, on the other hand, was a disaster.

I think that's a fair assessment. Of course, that won't go down well with the TDS crowd.
 
So do you think we should decide whether to vote for Republicans based on whether America is on a right track, or a wrong track? You seem to believe America is on a right track, so what would be a problem with that?
In part. That's not the only thing to consider. I believe that you should also assess carefully what you'll potentially be getting once someone is in office if they aren't right now. In that respect, I will not vote for anyone that is associated in any way with the DSA or the Left of the Democrat(ic) party. I know that will result in disaster for me and mine. The Left never makes things better.

And, yes, I believe the US is more on the right track than wrong one.

I sure as hell don't want to go back to open borders and mass migration of useless, illiterate, ill-educated, foreign nationals illegally here by the millions like Autopen let happen. That was an absolute and complete clusterfuck.

I don't want anyone in office that's onboard with the Greentard environmental agenda. That's another Leftist disaster in the making.

With foreign policy I'd prefer a President that's feared rather than loved by other nations. Foreign policy is not a game for celebrities or one where the object is to be liked.
 
In part. That's not the only thing to consider. I believe that you should also assess carefully what you'll potentially be getting once someone is in office if they aren't right now. In that respect, I will not vote for anyone that is associated in any way with the DSA or the Left of the Democrat(ic) party. I know that will result in disaster for me and mine. The Left never makes things better.

And, yes, I believe the US is more on the right track than wrong one.

I sure as hell don't want to go back to open borders and mass migration of useless, illiterate, ill-educated, foreign nationals illegally here by the millions like Autopen let happen. That was an absolute and complete clusterfuck.

I don't want anyone in office that's onboard with the Greentard environmental agenda. That's another Leftist disaster in the making.

With foreign policy I'd prefer a President that's feared rather than loved by other nations. Foreign policy is not a game for celebrities or one where the object is to be liked.
Excellent, TA…bravo.
 
Yep,....the left LOVES them some PROGRAMS. Especially the kind that gives them something for nothing. All paid for by OTHER peoples money of course.
Waht other people? If we had universal medicine as all the other industrial nations do, we would save well over 50 percent and cover everybody. That is saving other people's money. Of course as a righty, that bothers you.
 
And, yes, I believe the US is more on the right track than wrong one.
You are in the minority. Only 36% of voters think we are on the right track. 61% of voters think we are moving in the wrong direction. They believe things are getting worse, and we need to change the direction our country is going in.

If Democrats make this about right track/wrong track, then they will win. Voters support the track that Democrats want to put this country on.
 
You would think we could all agree that trump should be judged on whether he put us on a right or wrong track.
Agreed.
We would disagree on whether he did put us on a right track or wrong track,
That seems to be the case.
but agree that he should be judged on what track he put us on.
Yup.
I am hearing a lot of "trump should not be judged on his accomplishments" from the alt right posters.
??? Really??? Idk what "alt right" means, but I most certainly think that President Trump should be judged (AND CREDITED!) for all of his major accomplishments during his terms.
Actually, I am just asking that he be judged on the track he has put us on, not whether he accomplished that track.

As for the excuses that it is not trump's fault that he can get nothing done... If someone cannot do the job, they need to be gotten rid of.

@gfm7175 @Stone @IBDaMann @T. A. Gardner @Earl @Yakuda @Librtlover
He put us on the right track. His anti-invasion and deportation policies regarding illegal aliens are top notch. His domestic energy policies are top notch. His tariff policies have been quite good, and would be even better if not for leftist activists (and RINO cowards) in black robes. It's really hard (maybe even impossible) to find something to criticize President Trump for when it comes to his official duties as Chief Executive.
 
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So do you think we should decide whether to vote for Republicans based on whether America is on a right track, or a wrong track? You seem to believe America is on a right track, so what would be a problem with that?
Here's how I decide who to vote for:

The Democrat Party advocates for the destruction of the USA and its citizens. They advocate for the contract-killing of unborn children (calling it "healthcare"), for the defenselessness zones that lead to the increased slaughter of children at schools (calling it "gun control measures"), for the gender confusion and genitalia mutilation that leads to the elimination of procreation and irreversible damage to one's genitalia (calling it "(trans)gender identity"), for men beating the ever loving shit out of women (calling it an "organized sporting event"), for men creeping on women in locker rooms (calling it "(trans)gender identity"), and the list goes on and on and on (including their wars against weather, sunlight, carbon based fuels, and internal combustion engines).

Ready to put your mask back on and get your jabs? Gonna try to force me out of my job and any public area if I refuse to do those things because you're too afraid that your own mask and jabs don't actually work?

I stand against all of that, so I instead vote for candidates who support MAGA. I want America to be great and thriving, not subpar and sickly.
 
You are in the minority. Only 36% of voters think we are on the right track. 61% of voters think we are moving in the wrong direction. They believe things are getting worse, and we need to change the direction our country is going in.

Irrelevant appeal to popularity. You asked for MY opinions. I gave you MY opinions. What the polls say is totally irrelevant to that.
If Democrats make this about right track/wrong track, then they will win. Voters support the track that Democrats want to put this country on.
Only if they can convince voters nothing else matters.
 
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