CBS Nightly News with David Muir

[tigerred59]

Today on the news...white ppl, listen up....today was white pride day and it went as follows....a white guy still being held for missing wife, (and lets not forget the other white guy that tried to throw his wife off a cliff on the news yesterday) a white guy set his companies factory on fire, causing $500M in damages, a white cop slaps and choke holds a paraplegic male in a wheel chair, a white guy mass shoots at FSU killing 2, a white guy fire bombs AI CEO's home, white farmers and white folk who voted Trump is not happy about inflation and finally the icing on the cake, white guy Trump still wants to wipe Iran off the planet, if they don't comply with his orders...and X and all of conservative media, call us black folk violent and dangerous...next?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

Notice anything about who's shooting who?

 

[martin]

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

Notice anything about who's shooting who?

This tired, racist debate. If you look into it beyond a favored website you will find the statistics are reasonably close but also there are studies as well as common sense that reveal a disparity in enforcement with blacks more likely overall than whites to face arrest.

 

[tigerred59]

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours

Notice anything about who's shooting who?

Every single day where I live in the hood, teenagers are shooting up teenages like its a sport. Black on black crime...hate to say it, but one sorry ass teenagers killing another sorry ass teenager does not keep me up at night. However, some sick pathetic white boy, who has all the worlds attention and admiration at its heels, having a fuckin bad day, that motherfucker we all should fear the most.

 

[tigerred59]

This tired, racist debate. If you look into it beyond a favored website you will find the statistics are reasonably close but also there are studies as well as common sense that reveal a disparity in enforcement with blacks more likely overall than whites to face arrest.

This nation, no matter how many negro men slap sperm into white women to create this utopia of mixation of colors....will never ever resolve its madness of racism, not ever. And no generation will ever be able to end it. If every white person was to end yesterday, there will be other ethnicities to pick of mantle of racism and run with it. And even if every ethnicity was to end yesterday, leaving on negro's....you'd still have the lights vs the darks....MANKIND CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT HATRED, IT CAN'T

 

[T. A. Gardner]

This tired, racist debate. If you look into it beyond a favored website you will find the statistics are reasonably close but also there are studies as well as common sense that reveal a disparity in enforcement with blacks more likely overall than whites to face arrest.

No, they're not. Like it or not, for their number in the US population, Blacks commit violent crimes in far greater numbers than any other ethnic group hands down.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

This nation, no matter how many negro men slap sperm into white women to create this utopia of mixation of colors....will never ever resolve its madness of racism, not ever. And no generation will ever be able to end it. If every white person was to end yesterday, there will be other ethnicities to pick of mantle of racism and run with it. And even if every ethnicity was to end yesterday, leaving on negro's....you'd still have the lights vs the darks....MANKIND CAN NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT HATRED, IT CAN'T

Actually, much of the problem--the vast majority of it--comes from long term forced programs, usually coming from the Left, on diversity, ethnicity, and celebrating even encouraging in law, keeping ethnic and racial groups divided. It would take many generations to end this problem.

Put another way, the greatest harm to various racial and ethnic groups is they are kept separate by various means. So, instead of a national identity, we get each racial, ethnic, religious, etc., group doing their own unique things that keep them often separated in larger society. Without a defining language, culture, values, and identity, a nation isn't a nation. Switzerland and Japan are two nations that get this. They want and expect people who are citizens of their country to adopt and have those traits. Without them, they won't let someone become a citizen there.

For many minority groups in the US, the Left has done everything they can to keep them separated on the claim that their individual culture be preserved rather than they integrate with society taking in the best they have to offer in culture, values, etc. This results in tribalism. "Diversity" of this kind isn't inclusive, it is divisive. It separates and weakens all of society.

It can be ended, but it would take likely more than a century to do it. The further down the DEI road we go as a nation, the more we're going to end up a bunch of hating tribes squabbling over bullshit while no one can figure out why we're all now poor and fucked. Societies survive without hatred. That's how they're supposed to work. The Leftist concept of diversity, equality, and inclusion produces a society with endless hatred. That's the problem.

 

[tigerred59]

Actually, much of the problem--the vast majority of it--comes from long term forced programs, usually coming from the Left, on diversity, ethnicity, and celebrating even encouraging in law, keeping ethnic and racial groups divided. It would take many generations to end this problem.

Put another way, the greatest harm to various racial and ethnic groups is they are kept separate by various means. So, instead of a national identity, we get each racial, ethnic, religious, etc., group doing their own unique things that keep them often separated in larger society. Without a defining language, culture, values, and identity, a nation isn't a nation. Switzerland and Japan are two nations that get this. They want and expect people who are citizens of their country to adopt and have those traits. Without them, they won't let someone become a citizen there.

For many minority groups in the US, the Left has done everything they can to keep them separated on the claim that their individual culture be preserved rather than they integrate with society taking in the best they have to offer in culture, values, etc. This results in tribalism. "Diversity" of this kind isn't inclusive, it is divisive. It separates and weakens all of society.

It can be ended, but it would take likely more than a century to do it. The further down the DEI road we go as a nation, the more we're going to end up a bunch of hating tribes squabbling over bullshit while no one can figure out why we're all now poor and fucked. Societies survive without hatred. That's how they're supposed to work. The Leftist concept of diversity, equality, and inclusion produces a society with endless hatred. That's the problem.

Your read is noted....but to put this all on liberals and thier policies, I'm not buying it. In 1968 a white man took sticks of dynamite and 4 black little girls were blown apart in a church. I use this as my example to show just how powerful hate is for ppl of color. And as a society, we have to ask questions as to why BLACK ppl are permanently on menus of hatred in this country. Muslims took down 2 towers in NY killing 1500 ppl. The Jews are behind every corrupt money schemes in this country and this current war in Iran. The Chinese brought Covid to every state in this country. Latino's take jobs from hard working Americans...NONE OF THESE ETHNIC GROUPS, NONE ARE PLACED ON MENUES OF HATRED LIKE THAT OF BLACKS. Other than having black skin, I'm still trying to figure out, what exactly have we done to everybody that garners so much hatred, T. A???

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Your read is noted....but to put this all on liberals and thier policies, I'm not buying it. In 1968 a white man took sticks of dynamite and 4 black little girls were blown apart in a church. I use this as my example to show just how powerful hate is for ppl of color. And as a society, we have to ask questions as to why BLACK ppl are permanently on menus of hatred in this country. Muslims took down 2 towers in NY killing 1500 ppl. The Jews are behind every corrupt money schemes in this country and this current war in Iran. The Chinese brought Covid to every state in this country. Latino's take jobs from hard working Americans...NONE OF THESE ETHNIC GROUPS, NONE ARE PLACED ON MENUES OF HATRED LIKE THAT OF BLACKS. Other than having black skin, I'm still trying to figure out, what exactly have we done to everybody that garners so much hatred, T. A???

It's not just the Left, but it is in large part the Left. They're the ones that push DEI and all that goes with it the hardest. I get that Blacks have not been exactly popular in the US pretty much ever. But, before the 60's they had established their own communities--yes, the one in Oklahoma was burned to the ground--but overall they were established and thriving. Had that continued I think they'd have found themselves more mainstreamed by now.

Instead, affirmative action and other Leftist social-welfare programs started hard and big in the 60's disincentivizing Blacks to work and get ahead on their own. This resulted in a decline in social growth. It's not unique to Blacks. In England at the same time, those same sort of programs were being used on Whites who were minorities, like the Welsh and Scottish, to the same disastrous ends.

Back in the day--the 1870's to 1950's Asians like Chinese and Japanese were treated as bad or worse than Blacks. Hispanics were hated more than Blacks in the Southwestern US for a long time too. I remember reading in the 36th Infantry Division Quarterly history magazine an account where several soldiers--this was just before Pearl Harbor in Texas--including on who was Hispanic, went to a cafe in Austin TX. The waitress told the Hispanic "Mexican's can't come in," and to get out. He asked if he could go around to the door in back for Blacks. She replied, "That door is for the Ni**ers, we don't want your kind here at all..."

Overall though, I think it comes down to two things with Blacks: Culture and crime. With culture, Blacks were never given the opportunity to integrate and larger society shunned their culture. Native Americans faced the same thing. With them, it went so far as the creation of "Indian Schools" that were intended to wipe their culture out. Apartheid, which is what the reservation system is, has done Native Americans no favors.

Crime is the other issue. I don't know what can be done to fix that problem. That one is as much self-inflicted as anything from what I can see.

Today, the difference I see is that Asians and Hispanics have integrated into larger American society and some aspects of their societies have been widely adopted by the whole. On the other hand, for whatever reason, Blacks still haven't achieved that sort of integration and I think it's the same reason Native Americans haven't integrated. Rather than work towards integration, the system has propped up segregation in less obvious forms.

 

[Diesel]

Every single day where I live in the hood, teenagers are shooting up teenages like its a sport. Black on black crime...hate to say it, but one sorry ass teenagers killing another sorry ass teenager does not keep me up at night. However, some sick pathetic white boy, who has all the worlds attention and admiration at its heels, having a fuckin bad day, that motherfucker we all should fear the most.

That, and @T. A. Gardner is a racist.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That, and @T. A. Gardner is a racist.

So, let's hear your version of why Blacks are doing so poorly in the US. Come on, Finger Boy, tell us. I want read your Leftist version of things.

 

[Diesel]

So, let's hear your version of why Blacks are doing so poorly in the US. Come on, Finger Boy, tell us. I want read your Leftist version of things.

It boils down to systemic racism and white privilege. Black Americans have faced every obstacle to equal opportunity in the US, and they have faced it more than all others.

Surviving slavery and Jim Crow placed them in an age of affirmative action and political correctness that caused a reaction so vociferous that they're again being expelled from opportunities, mainly by jealous, fearful white people.

Where opportunity doesn't exist, desperation arises. Desperation can lead to determination. It can also lead to recklessness. Whether so determined that they become Cabinet officers or celebrities or so reckless that they become criminals or gamblers, they still face racism that is ingrained in every aspect of American life.

Hearing self-entitled white people like you say that they are predisposed to lesser-than lives reinforces the reality that minorities -- especially Black people -- are doomed to second-class (or worse) citizenship. The problem is that white people -- especially straight, white men -- don't want to share the power that they stole from every other living human around them. Considering that your entire existence is due to the worst crimes in human history, you have no authority to characterize the condition of Black Americans.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

It boils down to systemic racism and white privilege. Black Americans have faced every obstacle to equal opportunity in the US, and they have faced it more than all others.

Surviving slavery and Jim Crow placed them in an age of affirmative action and political correctness that caused a reaction so vociferous that they're again being expelled from opportunities, mainly by jealous, fearful white people.

Where opportunity doesn't exist, desperation arises. Desperation can lead to determination. It can also lead to recklessness. Whether so determined that they become Cabinet officers or celebrities or so reckless that they become criminals or gamblers, they still face racism that is ingrained in every aspect of American life.

Figures you'd just regurgitate the usual Leftist talking points. The Chinese and Japanese were equally, or even more kicked to the curb in the US. Yet, they managed to build thriving communities and eventually integrate into American society successfully.

Hispanics, as I pointed out, were as oppressed in the Southwestern US as Blacks, sometimes even more. Native Americans live in an apartheid system on reservations. Today many tribes are awash in cash from casinos and other business ventures. Yet, the vast majority of their members live in abject poverty.

Blacks in the US used what opportunities they had successfully up until the 1960's when affirmative action and social welfare took over. As I pointed out, it was the same disaster in England but with Whites.

Hearing self-entitled white people like you say that they are predisposed to lesser-than lives reinforces the reality that minorities -- especially Black people -- are doomed to second-class (or worse) citizenship. The problem is that white people -- especially straight, white men -- don't want to share the power that they stole from every other living human around them. Considering that your entire existence is due to the worst crimes in human history, you have no authority to characterize the condition of Black Americans.

I never said Blacks were "...predisposed to lesser-than lives." I stated that the Left by giving them a handout rather than a hand up, pigeonholed them into the situation they face today.

Stop parroting Leftist talking points and read a history book or two instead.

 

[Nomad]

You're all full of shit.

Both sides.

A bunch of hot air bags talking shit like you're experts on a subject you know next to nothing about, while cheering on whichever side you've either arbitrarily or out of kindredness, decided you support.

STFU about it, all of you.

None of you know shit about the reasons why things are the way they are.

Blacks commit an inordinate amount of violent crimes, at a rate far greater than the percentage of society they represent.

OTOH, they were brought here against their will and made slaves out of, then for decades after they were made legally free, they were grossly discriminated against.

Even though that's all in the distant past, there is still a significant portion of their ranks that cannot seem to get in step with everyone else.

Some say they've had more than enough time, others say not enough time.

Nobody knows.

I don't, you don't, they don't, the so-called experts don't.

Yet nobody will STFU about it.

So please, STFU about it.

It's going to continue until it doesn't.

 

[Diesel]

Figures you'd just regurgitate the usual Leftist talking points. The Chinese and Japanese were equally, or even more kicked to the curb in the US. Yet, they managed to build thriving communities and eventually integrate into American society successfully.

Hispanics, as I pointed out, were as oppressed in the Southwestern US as Blacks, sometimes even more. Native Americans live in an apartheid system on reservations. Today many tribes are awash in cash from casinos and other business ventures. Yet, the vast majority of their members live in abject poverty.

Blacks in the US used what opportunities they had successfully up until the 1960's when affirmative action and social welfare took over. As I pointed out, it was the same disaster in England but with Whites.




I never said Blacks were "...predisposed to lesser-than lives." I stated that the Left by giving them a handout rather than a hand up, pigeonholed them into the situation they face today.

Stop parroting Leftist talking points and read a history book or two instead.

They aren't leftist talking points. I have never asked you for your opinion ever. You asked for mine. You got it. You didn't like it, so you resorted to what you people always do. You stuck your fingers in your ears, stomped your racist feet, and claimed that you -- a straight, white man who has never faced discrimination in any meaningful way for one second of your entire pointless life -- get to decide what the minority experience is for minorities. You are the worst, most insipid type of racist that exists. And our society is infested with you.

Asian Americans and Mexican Americans (Hispanic is a word that was invented by white racists and has no useful meaning) have not withstood anything near the level of mistreatment that Black Americans have. You're frankly revolting for even suggesting it. Your conceptions of culture and integration are the most blatantly racist versions available. Black Americans have far more in common culturally with white Americans than Chinese and Japanese and Mexican Americans do. You know as much about Japanese American, Chinese American, Mexican American, and Black American culture as any other white American racist does. I won't address Native Americans here because the parallels between their experiences and those of Black Americans have clearly completely escaped you.

I have a degree in history. Don't try to lecture me from your perspective as an old, ignorant racist who is so determined to dehumanize minorities that you can't even acknowledge reality. You are mentally ill as are all avowed racists, especially the ones who deny being racist as they spew racism. Attempting to minimize the Black American experience to a left-right political issue is so offensive that only a crusty bigot like you could utter it out loud and expect to get away with it.

I'll give you the same present I give all people like you, not that it will make any difference. Your opinion doesn't matter. You don't get to tell minorities what their experience is or how they're allowed to feel about it. No matter how loudly and how violently you sick fucks try to keep the rest of us under your unearned control, we're not going to let you define our reality or marginalize us. Your desperation is evidence that we're still winning despite your best efforts.

 

[Diesel]

You're all full of shit.

Both sides.

A bunch of hot air bags talking shit like you're experts on a subject you know next to nothing about, while cheering on whichever side you've either arbitrarily or out of kindredness, decided you support.

STFU about it, all of you.

None of you know shit about the reasons why things are the way they are.

Blacks commit an inordinate amount of violent crimes, at a rate far greater than the percentage of society they represent.

OTOH, they were brought here against their will and made slaves out of, then for decades after they were made legally free, they were grossly discriminated against.

Even though that's all in the distant past, there is still a significant portion of their ranks that cannot seem to get in step with everyone else.

Some say they've had more than enough time, others say not enough time.

Nobody knows.

I don't, you don't, they don't, the so-called experts don't.

Yet nobody will STFU about it.

So please, STFU about it.

It's going to continue until it doesn't.

Hey fucktard, you can scream in giant bold letters all you want. I'm not going to shut up, and no one asked you a fucking thing.

Do those of us with an education and a lived experience a favor by shutting the fuck up yourself. As a matter of fact, I am an expert in the experience of minority Americans. You aren't, so choke on my dick until you're dead.

It takes a colossally stupid person to claim that no one understands an issue or a problem simply because you don't.

 

[Nomad]

Hey fucktard, you can scream in giant bold letters all you want. I'm not going to shut up, and no one asked you a fucking thing.

Do those of us with an education and a lived experience a favor by shutting the fuck up yourself. As a matter of fact, I am an expert in the experience of minority Americans. You aren't, so choke on my dick until you're dead.

It takes a colossally stupid person to claim that no one understands an issue or a problem simply because you don't.

Fuck you, nasty bitch.

It takes a colossally stupid person to assume because he's black and gay that he knows the underlying sociological causes of issues that have confounded people with vastly higher levels of education than you supposedly have, for decades.

You don't know your asshole from a hole in a gourd.

Nobody is listening to the victim whining anymore so do yourself and everyone else a favor, and STFU.

Everyone is sick of hearing about it.

 

[Diesel]

Fuck you, nasty bitch.

It takes a colossally stupid person to assume because he's black and gay that he knows the underlying sociological causes of issues that have confounded people with vastly higher levels of education than you supposedly have, for decades.

You don't know your asshole from a hole in a gourd.

Nobody is listening to the victim whining anymore so do yourself and everyone else a favor, and STFU.

Everyone is sick of hearing about it.

No, fuck you, you shriveled, pasty cunt.

You make a lot of stupid fucking assumptions because you're a stupid fucking twat. No one is "confounded" here except you and the racists trying to tell me what I feel, what I know, and what I experience.

No one asked you anything, so you should do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up before I make you regret butting into a conversation with nothing to add. You're not going to get me to shut up, but you do invite my rage whenever you fuck up like you just did.

I don't give the tiniest fuck what white pieces of shit like you want to hear. I have my voice, and you can't do a damn thing to silence or persuade it. So next time you run your ignorant mouth, think twice before I bitch slap you straight back to hell.

 

[Moosakofsky]

However, some sick pathetic white boy, who has all the worlds attention and admiration at its heels, having a fuckin bad day, that motherfucker we all should fear the most.

Wut? Why do you say that?

 

[Nomad]

No, fuck you, you shriveled, pasty cunt.

Diesel looking for racists.....

You make a lot of stupid fucking assumptions because you're a stupid fucking twat. No one is "confounded" here except you and the racists trying to tell me what I feel, what I know, and what I experience.

No one asked you anything, so you should do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up before I make you regret butting into a conversation with nothing to add. You're not going to get me to shut up, but you do invite my rage whenever you fuck up like you just did.

I don't give the tiniest fuck what white pieces of shit like you want to hear. I have my voice, and you can't do a damn thing to silence or persuade it.

So next time you run your ignorant mouth, think twice before I bitch slap you straight back to hell.

Bitchy queen couldn't slap it's momma back to hell.