Cruise ships have found a way around Florida's ban on vaccine passports

reagansghost said:
the manufacturers never claimed their vaccines were 100% effective.......roughly 95%

3 divided by 60 = 5 %

95% efficacy as promised

I've explained this to illiterate hicks a few times now, none of them comprehend basic math
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and none of you give a fuck about those few that are adversely affected by the vaccine............you're all just 'sorry kid, but the greater good demands it'...............
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and none of you give a fuck about those few that are adversely affected by the vaccine............you're all just 'sorry kid, but the greater good demands it'...............
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That makes no sense. Are you saying that the Starship Enterprise should have been blown up anyway because one person is too important?


R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy.
 
AProudLefty said:
That makes no sense. Are you saying that the Starship Enterprise should have been blown up anyway because one person is too important?


R.I.P. Leonard Nimoy.
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hilarity aside from using a movie clip to depict reality, spock made a choice............he wasn't ordered or mandated............real life is different. Those people that were adversely affected have NO RECOURSE because your corrupt federal government removed any liability from them........kind of like how gun manufacturers were. did you agree with that move?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
hilarity aside from using a movie clip to depict reality, spock made a choice............he wasn't ordered or mandated............real life is different. Those people that were adversely affected have NO RECOURSE because your corrupt federal government removed any liability from them........kind of like how gun manufacturers were. did you agree with that move?
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Correct. Spock made a choice to save the lives of the Enterprise crew.
 
danielpalos said:
I haven't heard that. It seems more like right-wingers would use the ID to try to limit access to voting even more since persons of color tend to have more legal issues and especially blacks.
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And many elderly ppl as well, of any color or political POV.

But as you can see, the RWers try to distract from the pandemic and vaccines by deflecting to a completely unrelated issue.
 
danielpalos said:
I haven't heard that. It seems more like right-wingers would use the ID to try to limit access to voting even more since persons of color tend to have more legal issues and especially blacks.
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the last I heard nobody had any issues getting an ID. Something that every state has available.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
As you all always bring up about guns and the 2nd amendment, voting is a constitutional right. Going to a bar, on a cruise, or to the movies is not.
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and as YOU ALL have always brought up, it is not unconstitutional to require a permit or license to exercise constitutional rights. It's simply maintaining a proof system that said person/holder of permit or ID is eligible to exercise that right.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the last I heard nobody had any issues getting an ID. Something that every state has available.
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You heard wrongly. It is a real problem for many people. It must be a coincidence because most of them are likely Dem voters. That is why ID is brought up since our elections are always checked and they are amazingly honest. The reds want to cut Dem votes however they can.
States claim they will give free ID if needed. However there is money, time, and trouble getting the ID they demand to qualify for that ID.
Rural voters face DMVs that are open on occasion and often far away. People who do not drive will find tracking down a birth certificate is a major pain.
When I tried to get a birth cert for a passport, the hospital I was born at was long gone. My birth was not on computers, but paper . The hospital had been merged and bought up a few times. They took a while to track it down. I went to several SS offices.
This is with a car and driving. Can you imagine what it does to old people who no longer drive?
That trouble is what the reds want.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the last I heard nobody had any issues getting an ID. Something that every state has available.
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You heard wrongly. It is a real problem for many people. It must be a coincidence because most of them are likely Dem voters. That is why ID is brought up since our elections are always checked and they are amazingly honest. The reds want to cut Dem votes however they can.
States claim they will give free ID if needed. However there is money, time, and trouble getting the ID they demand to qualify for that ID.
Rural voters face DMVs that are open on occasion and often far away. People who do not drive will find tracking down a birth certificate is a major pain.
When I tried to get a birth cert for a passport, the hospital I was born at was long gone. My birth was not on computers, but paper . The hospital had been merged and bought up a few times. They took a while to track it down. I went to several SS offices.
This is with a car and driving. Can you imagine what it does to old people who no longer drive?
That trouble is what the reds want.
 
Nordberg said:
You heard wrongly. It is a real problem for many people. It must be a coincidence because most of them are likely Dem voters. That is why ID is brought up since our elections are always checked and they are amazingly honest. The reds want to cut Dem votes however they can.
States claim they will give free ID if needed. However there is money, time, and trouble getting the ID they demand to qualify for that ID.
Rural voters face DMVs that are open on occasion and often far away. People who do not drive will find tracking down a birth certificate is a major pain.
When I tried to get a birth cert for a passport, the hospital I was born at was long gone. My birth was not on computers, but paper . The hospital had been merged and bought up a few times. They took a while to track it down. I went to several SS offices.
This is with a car and driving. Can you imagine what it does to old people who no longer drive?
That trouble is what the reds want.
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But you, and other liberals here, have been constantly telling the rest of us that only redneck, hillbilly, conservatives live in rural areas while all you, supposedly intelligent and 'woke' liberals live in the city..........so how is it JUST NOW that all these older and poorer democrats now live in the rural areas?

you're contradicting yourself all over the place now...............so i'm thinking that maybe you're just lying about the issue
 
Nordberg said:
You heard wrongly. It is a real problem for many people. It must be a coincidence because most of them are likely Dem voters. That is why ID is brought up since our elections are always checked and they are amazingly honest. The reds want to cut Dem votes however they can.
States claim they will give free ID if needed. However there is money, time, and trouble getting the ID they demand to qualify for that ID.
Rural voters face DMVs that are open on occasion and often far away. People who do not drive will find tracking down a birth certificate is a major pain.
When I tried to get a birth cert for a passport, the hospital I was born at was long gone. My birth was not on computers, but paper . The hospital had been merged and bought up a few times. They took a while to track it down. I went to several SS offices.
This is with a car and driving. Can you imagine what it does to old people who no longer drive?
That trouble is what the reds want.
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everything you said is so simple and logical, and i guess that is why stupid shit trump voters just cannot understand it. how can they not see that to some people, a lot of people, just finding transportation and walking around without aid is a big ass problem?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
But you, and other liberals here, have been constantly telling the rest of us that only redneck, hillbilly, conservatives live in rural areas while all you, supposedly intelligent and 'woke' liberals live in the city..........so how is it JUST NOW that all these older and poorer democrats now live in the rural areas?

you're contradicting yourself all over the place now...............so i'm thinking that maybe you're just lying about the issue
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i knew you were lying when you claimed you were "thinking." way beyond your grasp, little feller. who cares what you "think?" facts and sources are what matter.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
i knew you were lying when you claimed you were "thinking." way beyond your grasp, little feller. who cares what you "think?" facts and sources are what matter.
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let me guess, you think your little quip here proved something..............like you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Because you produced neither facts nor sources. I guess you make a living at failing.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
and as YOU ALL have always brought up, it is not unconstitutional to require a permit or license to exercise constitutional rights. It's simply maintaining a proof system that said person/holder of permit or ID is eligible to exercise that right.
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Yep. I wonder why Reichwingers are so resistant to a national ID card, but think it's okay to require one to vote?
 
Not a fan of LARGE cruise ships, but they are private companies who should be allowed to chose customers based on danger toward other passengers or the business as a whole.
 
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