DEMOCRATS are moving to get illegal votes legitimized

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Some states do, but I believe they have to either take their case in front of a judge after a reasonable length of time, have good reason, character witnesses, etc., or a state parole board.
Which brings me back to the punishment fitting the crime. Violent crimes should carry harsh penalties, That, and if they are repeat offenders, the punishment should increase with each violation.

But back to the OP, the Democrats probably will gain the votes of anyone given amnesty, because Democrats are overlooking the crime of them being here illegally.

In most states they simply have to complete their sentence before voting rights are restored:

In Maine and Vermont, felons never lose their right to vote, even while they are incarcerated.

In 14 states and the District of Columbia, felons lose their voting rights only while incarcerated, and receive automatic restoration upon release.

In 22 states, felons lose their voting rights during incarceration, and for a period of time after, typically while on parole and/or probation. Voting rights are automatically restored after this time period. Former felons may also have to pay any outstanding fines, fees or restitution before their rights are restored as well.

In 12 states felons lose their voting rights indefinitely for some crimes, or require a governor’s pardon in order for voting rights to be restored, or face an additional waiting period after completion of sentence (including parole and probation) before voting rights can be restored. These states are listed in the fourth category on Table 1. Details on these states are found in Table 2 below.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/felon-voting-rights.aspx

 

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Many guys in prison are in racial gangs for protection. I doubt if those guys in groups like the Aryan Brotherhood, Skinheads, or Neo-Nazis are voting Democratic.

A study of Erie County, New York, found 5% of former felons voted in 2004-2005. Even without a felony conviction this group is unlikely to vote in significant numbers.

 

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Many guys in prison are in racial gangs for protection. I doubt if those guys in groups like the Aryan Brotherhood, Skinheads, or Neo-Nazis are voting Democratic.

A study of Erie County, New York, found 5% of former felons voted in 2004-2005. Even without a felony conviction this group is unlikely to vote in significant numbers.

I doubt the Erie County study is comprehensive enough to serve as a representative nationwide bellwether, and I doubt that the Aryan Brotherhood, Skinheads, or Neo-Nazis are representative of the entire inmate population.

If DEMOCRATS are the people pushing for universal enfranchisement of felons and illegal aliens, do you suppose they are doing it because they think it will benefit the GOP?

 

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I doubt the Erie County study is comprehensive enough to serve as a representative nationwide bellwether, and I doubt that the Aryan Brotherhood, Skinheads, or Neo-Nazis are representative of the entire inmate population.

If DEMOCRATS are the people pushing for universal enfranchisement of felons and illegal aliens, do you suppose they are doing it because they think it will benefit the GOP?

Erie County might not be representative but we know the factors associated with voter turnout--education level, age, etc. and the vast majority of those in jails and prisons are not likely to vote.

Democrats do not expect restoring voting rights to felons will benefit the GOP, but many just favor it because they think these people are oppressed victims we should be nice to, not because of voting potential (even though I'm sure some of the party leaders and consultants have that in mind).

Since almost all states automatically restore voting rights when a person has completed their sentence, anything to be gained or lost by felons voting has already occurred.

Democrats claim the elderly have problems getting a voter ID and seniors are the most reliable GOP voters.

Do you think President Trump is giving amnesty to 1.8 million because he expects them to vote Republican?

 

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Erie County might not be representative but we know the factors associated with voter turnout--education level, age, etc. and the vast majority of those in jails and prisons are not likely to vote.

I agree that past analyses indicate that very few felons who have been enfranchised actually exercise the privilege, but I don't think that is necessarily an eternal truth. I also have an issue with the whole crime/punishment question. Loss of civil rights is part and parcel of felony conviction, and I think that is fair and just. Rates of recidivism indicate to me that 'reformed' criminals are rare.

Democrats do not expect restoring voting rights to felons will benefit the GOP, but many just favor it because they think these people are oppressed victims we should be nice to, not because of voting potential (even though I'm sure some of the party leaders and consultants have that in mind).

I find your assessment of the motives of rank and file DEMOCRAT naive. Even if some 'voting rights' campaigners are sincere, do-gooders do lots of harm in my experience. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Since almost all states automatically restore voting rights when a person has completed their sentence, anything to be gained or lost by felons voting has already occurred.

Except in states like Florida. I doubt the Floridian opponents of felon enfranchisement share your attitude.

Democrats claim the elderly have problems getting a voter ID and seniors are the most reliable GOP voters.

DEMOCRATS claim a lot of things that aren't so in my experience.

Do you think President Trump is giving amnesty to 1.8 million because he expects them to vote Republican?

I don't know that President Trump is giving amnesty to 1.8 million. Neither do you.