Did Republicans Break the Millennials?

Oneuli said:
Well, if you check the link I provided, about total government spending, you'll see what happened in this era wasn't a high rate of government spending growth. Quite the contrary: there has never been a period this long in American history with such a low rate of government spending growth. Instead, the issue was very poor revenue growth. Some of that was due to underwhelming economic growth, but it has also been due to multiple rounds of upper-class tax cuts.

Also, there was a shift in government spending, in the same period. Previously, there was more government spending on services (at the federal, state, and local levels), which is employment-intensive. Now there's a lot of government spending on the military, which employs relatively few people dollar-for-dollar. For example, slash a hundred bill dollars from the military budget and throw it to education or infrastructure, and you'll employ a lot more people.
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Government grew at a higher rate under GWB than it had under any President since LBJ.
 
Cypress said:
@ post one.

Is there anything less cool, and more repellent than a conservative millennial?

Probably not!

Trump does have a fan boy base in the 18 to 29 age bracket. Sadly, I believe most of them are either buck-toothed racist hillbillies, or misogynistic INCEL losers.

One major shift I have been noticing: Elderly conservatives have no idea that their attempts at throwing out archaic and outdated cold war expressions (aka, Bolshevik, commie, Marxist) are having less and less effect.

No one under the age of 40 remembers the Cold War, and attempts to paint liberals as witting allies of ruthless Stalinists just fall flat on their face. I actually feel a little bit embarrassed for the octogenarian teabaggers who still think their use of Bolshevik insults are clever, or have any effect whatsoever. Essentially, is seems that elderly teabaggers are unaware that what might have seemed clever, funny, and effective in 1953, just ain't cutting the mustard in 2019!
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Yet here you are using the same insults you accuse others of. Silly hypocrite....
 
Kacper said:
I am not sure where that so little government spending growth came from. Have you bothered to look at the national debt?
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The debt rose not because of unusually quick government spending growth. Government spending growth was, rather, at a record slow pace (you can confirm with the links I provided). It's because of unusually slow revenue growth. Bush pushed through two big upper-class tax cuts (and Obama signed off on making most of that permanent), and then Trump pushed through another big cut. The top bracket paid 91% as recently as the early 60s, and 70% as recently as the early 1980s, but now they pay just 37%, and the rates are still lower on the kinds of income earned by the idle rich (just 20% on long-term capital gains). And where corporations paid a top rate of 52% from the early 1950s through early 1960s (and 52.8% in the late 1960s), now they pay just 21%. We're essentially running up debt because tax policy was altered to further enhance the wealth of the economic elite.
 
Cypress said:
@ post one.

Is there anything less cool, and more repellent than a conservative millennial?

Probably not!

Trump does have a fan boy base in the 18 to 29 age bracket. Sadly, I believe most of them are either buck-toothed racist hillbillies, or misogynistic INCEL losers.

One major shift I have been noticing: Elderly conservatives have no idea that their attempts at throwing out archaic and outdated cold war expressions (aka, Bolshevik, commie, Marxist) are having less and less effect.

No one under the age of 40 remembers the Cold War, and attempts to paint liberals as witting allies of ruthless Stalinists just fall flat on their face. I actually feel a little bit embarrassed for the octogenarian teabaggers who still think their use of Bolshevik insults are clever, or have any effect whatsoever. Essentially, is seems that elderly teabaggers are unaware that what might have seemed clever, funny, and effective in 1953, just ain't cutting the mustard in 2019!
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Along the lines of my original point, the right-wingers are ironically responsible for the decline in negative stigma around terms like Marxist, socialist, commie, and so on. They spent so many years screeching "socialism" every time someone argued for any social spending, that they effectively redefined the term in popular culture. People thought, "well, if it's 'socialist' to want universal healthcare, like they have in every other wealthy nation, then I guess I'm a socialist." The right-wingers now wonder why when someone says "socialist" people don't react as if someone had mentioned Stalinism, but it's because of the reckless and exaggerated rhetoric of the right-wingers that the attitude shift happened. If they hadn't spent decades pretending every liberal was Chairman Mao, they wouldn't have worn away the reaction to those terms.
 
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Cypress said:
@ post one.

Is there anything less cool, and more repellent than a conservative millennial?

Probably not!

Trump does have a fan boy base in the 18 to 29 age bracket. Sadly, I believe most of them are either buck-toothed racist hillbillies, or misogynistic INCEL losers.

One major shift I have been noticing: Elderly conservatives have no idea that their attempts at throwing out archaic and outdated cold war expressions (aka, Bolshevik, commie, Marxist) are having less and less effect.

No one under the age of 40 remembers the Cold War, and attempts to paint liberals as witting allies of ruthless Stalinists just fall flat on their face. I actually feel a little bit embarrassed for the octogenarian teabaggers who still think their use of Bolshevik insults are clever, or have any effect whatsoever. Essentially, is seems that elderly teabaggers are unaware that what might have seemed clever, funny, and effective in 1953, just ain't cutting the mustard in 2019!
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Does that include the left's continual fallback on labeling others as Nazis and/or Racists??
<probably not, HUH>
 
cawacko said:
Government grew at a higher rate under GWB than it had under any President since LBJ.
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Not really. The largest recent year over year increase in federal spending happened in 2009 when it skyrocketed to a 17%+ increase over 2008. Some of that was Bush, but a lot of that was also Obama.
 
RB 60 said:
Ah, yes he uses the same insults he accuses others of. He's a hypocrite.
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You should try reading for content, it really help when you discuss issues. He was talking about very specific insuits, not insults in general.

Laughing at people who thanked you, too. They should read for content as well.
 
Oneuli said:
Along the lines of my original point, the right-wingers are ironically responsible for the decline in negative stigma around terms like Marxist, socialist, commie, and so on. They spent so many years screeching "socialism" every time someone argued for any social spending, that they effectively redefined the term in popular culture. People thought, "well, if it's 'socialist' to want universal healthcare, like they have in every other wealthy nation, then I guess I'm a socialist." The right-wingers now wonder why when someone says "socialist" people don't react as if they've embraced Stalinism, but it's because of the reckless an exaggerated rhetoric of the right-wingers that the attitude shift happened. If they hadn't spent decades pretending every liberal was Chairman Mao, they wouldn't have worn away the reaction to those terms.
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A good insight.

Republicans and rightwing message board posters have also spent careers hollering about and condemning European "socialism".

At this point, I am pretty sure every millennial who does not live in a trailer park is aware that Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Norway, Canada, Netherlands, France are pretty decent places to live. And if they are examples of "socialism", then socialism does not sound too bad at all!
 
cawacko said:
Exactly. He may be using different phrases but he’s still using them as insults.
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But then; it does seem that the left uses different definitions for the comments they make, when they're complaining about comments from the other side of the political fence.

:truestory:
 
Phantasmal said:
You should try reading for content, it really help when you discuss issues. He was talking about very specific insuits, not insults in general.

Laughing at people who thanked you, too. They should read for content as well.
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Splitting hairs, aren't you?
 
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