Did Russian Interference Affect the 2016 Election Results?

[Truth Detector]

really weird watching asshole annatta do post after post supporting Putin and Trump on the Russian election interference question
meanwhile 17 US intel agencies have proof they did interfere and have said so
couldn't be more obvious
fuck you comrade annie

Mueller Report; Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.

National Security Agency Director Admiral Michael Rogers and FBI Director James Comey both testified on Monday that no votes were changed due to hacking in the 2016 election.

 

[Flash]

But enough were persuaded in the key states Manafort was sharing polling data for..."a small percentage of voters" as you said.

100,000 was all it took.

Is 100,000 "a small percentage of voters"? These are your words, Flash.

True. But you don't know what influenced these voters. It could have been from the Trump campaign, the Republican Party, or the many PACs and independent expenditure groups, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, etc. You have no clue that any of these people even saw any of the Russian ads. Many older people do not do social media and these were the most reliable Trump voters.

And remember, Trump did not win by increasing his votes over Romney but by turnout for Clinton that was much lower than Obama received from reliably Democratic groups like blacks.

What propaganda was that?

That Trump was running a secret child cannibal sex ring out of a DC pizza shop?

That Hillary Clinton deleted thousands of e-mails that implicated her in (insert conspiracy theory here)?

Seriously, what Democratic propaganda was created top persuade idiots to vote for Clinton?

You try to make everything both sides because your mind is binary and cannot hold complex thought

There is it..."both sides". So...what country were the Democrats working with to create propaganda and memes to disparage Trump? NONE YOU SAY? So there goes your "both sides"..

You didn't see any negative propaganda against Trump in the 2016 election? Where do you think you got all the negative information about him? Propaganda is information aimed to influence, it can be true.

If you didn't see negative information about both Trump and Clinton you must have not been paying much attention to the campaign. Yes, both sides do this equally and they always have since the days of Washington, Jefferson, Adams.....

 

[Flash]

They sure did, and they sure do. That's why they had to sign a consent decree.




You are making an inference, I never made an implication.

It's not the Democrats who had to agree to a consent decree.




No, it's bothsiderism to think both sides engage in the same, equal conduct, which is the implication YOU ARE MAKING.

That's the implication, and I'm not making an inference.




Oh, you mean the one from Heritage that didn't even include the Republican cheating in NC-09 literally from 10 months ago?

Check your sources again.

The source clearly said it was not comprehensive but included documented cases. Did you find any errors in that database? If not, being from the Heritage Foundation does affect anything. Do you know of any other databases available for this information? No, then this is our best source.

Smearing the source is always the response when you can't challenge the facts. The point is that there are plenty of examples of both Democrats and Republicans cheating in elections with many convictions. Not including the NC case does not change that fact.

Any rational person knows the two parties use the same methods--only those whose partisanship blinds them to the facts argue otherwise.

 

[Flash]

Right, so now you're saying Russian propaganda was effective?

I am like you. I have no clue if Russian propaganda influenced one vote. No honest person would think they know the answer to this question. Or, whether any particular ad or piece of information from any source influenced any votes. Most vote their party affiliation. Those most likely to be undecided and make their decision late are those with the least interest and knowledge about politics and are least likely to watch political news. So, those most likely to be persuaded are the least likely to watch any of the ads or news.

 

[Flash]

Heritage can go fuck itself.

Also, no mention of the NC-9 vote fraud that happened last year. Why isn't that included?

When was the database last updated? Did you find any errors? No? Then smear the source and ignore the facts it presented. It would be fairly easy to take any one of the cases and do some simple research to see if it is true. But, you are too lazy and choose to reject common sense data because you can't admit Democrats cheat just like the Republicans. It would destroy your good vs. evil world and mean your side is not so perfect.

 

[Flash]

See, this shit post of yours is what happens when you comment on something you know nothing about because you're lazy, cowardly, or both.

Literally in Volume I on Page 5, Mueller said this:

The campaign evolved from a generalized program designed in 2014 and 2015 to undermine the US. electoral system, to a targeted operation that by early 2016 favored candidate Trump and disparaged candidate Clinton.

At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016, the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions (hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign.

Again, not one word about showing a single vote was influenced. All the people who went around saying "Hillary did this" or "Hillary did that" were people who already hated her.

Can we assume you were a safe vote for the Democrats four years ago even before you know much about Trump or any negative information? That information did not influence your vote because that was already decided, it must gave you talking points to post on JPP.

 

[Flash]

NO!

Mueller said in his report the purpose of the Russian hack was to get Trump elected

You must not have read all the report. It also clearly says:

"The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system."

This is what I said that you refused to believe because you are evidence the Russians were successful in "sowing discord" because some claim Trump is not the "legitimate" president.

 

[Flash]

Flash: "Since Mueller said the whole purpose was to divide America it seems to have worked with all the people saying the election was fraudulent and Drumpf is not the legitimate president."

LV426: NO!

That is not what Mueller said the purpose was!

Mueller said in his report, the purpose was to get Trump elected.

YOU DIDN'T READ MUELLER'S REPORT, SO HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID?

So fucking lazy.

You Phony:

"The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system."

 

[Flash]

See, this shit post of yours is what happens when you comment on something you know nothing about because you're lazy, cowardly, or both.

Literally in Volume I on Page 5, Mueller said this:

The campaign evolved from a generalized program designed in 2014 and 2015 to undermine the US. electoral system, to a targeted operation that by early 2016 favored candidate Trump and disparaged candidate Clinton.

At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016, the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions (hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign.

Maybe you should have read past page 5. And you call me lazy, you hypocrite.

"The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system."

 

[Flash]

Also, you're a fucking piece of racist shit because those two poll workers in TX back in 2014 (not Democrats, but poll workers) had no party affiliation, nor was it mentioned anywhere. So you attributed that vote fraud to the Democrats, why? Because the two women had Hispanic-sounding names.

So you made a racist assumption because you are a lazy, racist piece of shit.

As usual, you distort and get stuff wrong. First, Hispanics are not a race, they are white [Census Bureau] so to call me a racist is just a bigoted response.

Second, it does not say "poll workers," it says "campaign workers." I read about the case when it happened and the women worked for a county official and would be out of a job if he was defeated. In heavily Hispanic South Texas almost all county officials are Democrats (and so are poll workers).

Your refusal to believe Democrats cheat in elections shows something about your judgment.

"Two campaign workers pleaded guilty in the Southern District of Texas for paying voters to vote in two 2012 elections in Hidalgo County, Texas. In an elaborate vote-buying scheme, Belina Solis and Veronica Saldivar offered "baggies" of cocaine and money in exchange for votes for local and county candidates. After an extensive FBI investigation, they both pleaded guilty to one count of vote-buying."

 

[Buck Tucker]

He doesn't have all the information the Mueller team has


lets remember how much of Muellers report was redacted

Oh and BTW this guy has been wrong on his predictions since 2016


I guess he didn't know the Russians were affecting the elections by then

Mueller said there was no evidence of "collusion" between the trump campaign and Russia. Unless you're an idiot and you think some trolls posting Meme's on Facebook are gonna change a lot of votes then no votes were changed. We know that the decentralized voting system cannot be hacked in a way to change votes.

 

[Buck Tucker]

You Phony:

"The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system."

Well you know so many people can decide who to vote for until they look at Facebook to see what new memes are saying.

 

[Gonzomin]

Russia had a military operation hacking the American election. They spent about 1.4 million bucks a month on it. They sent emails and tweets to people they found that might be on the fence. They energized Trump low lives. They got specific polling data from Manafort that helped them target Americans. They were involved in pro-Trump demonstrations and gave assistance and financial help. They made signage and provided demonstrators.
It was an extremely close election and it is a near certainty that Putin elected Trump our president.

 

[dukkha]

Russia had a military operation hacking the American election. They spent about 1.4 million bucks a month on it. They sent emails and tweets to people they found that might be on the fence. They energized Trump low lives. They got specific polling data from Manafort that helped them target Americans. They were involved in pro-Trump demonstrations and gave assistance and financial help. They made signage and provided demonstrators.
It was an extremely close election and it is a near certainty that Putin elected Trump our president.

100% horse shit.'The Internet Research Agency was not a Kremlin operation.
Manafort gave poling data to a Ukraine political advisor -not Russian

 

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100% horse shit.'The Internet Research Agency was not a Kremlin operation.
Manafort gave poling data to a Ukraine political advisor -not Russian

Bozoman is full of shit!!

 

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Mueller said there was no evidence of "collusion" between the trump campaign and Russia. Unless you're an idiot and you think some trolls posting Meme's on Facebook are gonna change a lot of votes then no votes were changed. We know that the decentralized voting system cannot be hacked in a way to change votes.

Evince aka Desh is JPPs village idiot, that's common knowledge. Oh and she lives in California, home of the serious loonys.

 

[moon]

What about you, maggot. Where do you live.

 

[evince]

Mueller said there was no evidence of "collusion" between the trump campaign and Russia. Unless you're an idiot and you think some trolls posting Meme's on Facebook are gonna change a lot of votes then no votes were changed. We know that the decentralized voting system cannot be hacked in a way to change votes.

mueller did nit ssay that asshsole


he said the LYING by the trumpy loving witnesses made it so he could not determine the facts


that is not saying there was none that existed


its says the people involved kept LYING THEIR ASSES OFF

 

[LV426]

"The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system."

Right...BY SUPPORTING TRUMP AND DISPARAGING CLINTON.

 

[LV426]

You Phony:

"The IRA conducted social media operations targeted at large U.S. audiences with the goal of sowing discord in the U.S. political system."

BY SUPPORTING TRUMP AND DISPARAGING CLINTON.

The report says that they started out with the goal of sowing discord in the election, but then that strategy shifted to achieve that goal by supporting Trump.