Did Trump back down?

They said Trump can put them with their parents with the stroke of a pen
He gave you what you want. The kids won’t be separated from Mommy and daddy. You should be rejoicing.

Why would I rejoice at unconstitutional indefinite detention? This EO of Trump's will get struck down in the courts. Then he'll resume the practice of ripping families apart again, because you're Nazis and that's what Nazis do.
 
They will still be deported but at least it will be together which is what you wanted.

No they won't, because the part of the process we're talking about here is prior to their asylum hearing. So you're not even fully informed of this subject because you're a clown and a Nazi who is just vomiting forth propaganda because you don't know any better, or because it's your job.

So which is it; are you an ignoramus or a troll?
 
Why would I rejoice at unconstitutional indefinite detention? This EO of Trump's will get struck down in the courts. Then he'll resume the practice of ripping families apart again, because you're Nazis and that's what Nazis do.

Nothing unconstitutional about it at all.

And I agree 100%. This EO will get shot down. I fucking hope it does. That is a win win for Trump. He can say "I tried and it is proof I was following the law and that Congress had to do something"

Then it goes back to separating the kids according to the Flores settlement and 9th Circuit Court ruling until Congress does something.

That is why I am not upset and you still are. I can see the long term. You cannot
 
I don't see this as a time for an endzone dance at all. Whatever the practical political considerations.
Simply Thank you president Trump, for reversing course and doing the fucking right thing.
With a leviathan sized ego this was tough for him. So I'll say is- thanks.

But it wasn't the right course. All he did was trade one gross human rights abuse (ripping families apart) for another (unconstitutional indefinite detention).

No praise is to be given. This EO will get struck down in the courts, and Trump will go right back to separating families when they arrive seeking asylum again.
 
No they won't, because the part of the process we're talking about here is prior to their asylum hearing. So you're not even fully informed of this subject because you're a clown and a Nazi who is just vomiting forth propaganda because you don't know any better, or because it's your job.

So which is it; are you an ignoramus or a troll?


They have to be kept somewhere until the hearing. Can't just release them into the country can we? That makes no sense does it? Or is that what you really want?

You see, as this plays out, we get closer and closer to what you libtards really believe. Then it is game on. Suck it bitch
 
Trump has no methodology in his signing statement. The next couple days the repubs have 2 bills that are in the works. They are weak and do not do the job for families. But both include financing the wall to about 30 billion dollars. This is probably what Trump was after all along. He will trash some kids to get his wall. The bills will get resistence from fiscal conservatives as well as dems.

Will Melania get set back?

The EO will be struck down in the courts because it's unconstitutional to detain anyone indefinitely. Then Trump will go right back to ripping families apart again.

And Conservatives will continue to support him as he does that because they're all Nazis.
 
The EO will be struck down in the courts because it's unconstitutional to detain anyone indefinitely. Then Trump will go right back to ripping families apart again.

And Conservatives will continue to support him as he does that because they're all Nazis.

Damn. A libtard that actually gets it. And it is a win win for President Trump because he can accurately say that he did what the liberals asked him to do and tried to fix it with an EO even though he told them he couldn't. He will be proven to be right and the libtards will have egg on their faces.

Again the libtards have been outplayed by Trump. They mistakenly thought he would fight like he always does. I have to admit, I didn't see it at first. But again, he just played this brilliantly.

Libtards are boxed in a corner. He just gave them what they say they wanted. Now what do they do?

That is why you see libtards being so sad this morning. Are you the only one who has realized that you have been outplayed by Trump?
 
Nothing unconstitutional about it at all

Detaining someone indefinitely is unconstitutional. It's a violation of the 14th Amendment, and the practice was struck down by the Supreme Court in Hedges v. Obama.

You don't know that because you're not from here, are you? Be honest.
 
And I agree 100%. This EO will get shot down. I fucking hope it does. That is a win win for Trump. He can say "I tried and it is proof I was following the law and that Congress had to do something"

He wasn't following the law because there is no law that says families should be ripped apart when they are detained while seeking asylum. That law exists nowhere and in all these posts, you haven't been able to show anywhere it does. And by signing this EO, he admitted that the policy of ripping families apart was his, not the law.

He fucked himself and the GOP because it will blow back on them in November.
 
Then it goes back to separating the kids according to the Flores settlement and 9th Circuit Court ruling until Congress does something.

No. What the Flores settlement said and then what the courts affirmed was that unaccompanied minors could not be detained for a period of more than 20 days. Nowhere in the Flores settlement does it say that families are to be ripped apart. You're lying because you're a Nazi and Nazis lie.
 
The new time cover

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Kind of have to be sure a group of men, women and kids are actually a family before throwing them all together. That plus the fact that most minors showed up at the border with no adults at all, so naturally all THOSE kids will be grouped together in a separate shelter.
 
They have to be kept somewhere until the hearing.

There was a program called the Intensive Supervision Appearance Program (ISAP) that kept families together and 99.8% of those in the program made their court date.

Then you Nazis stripped funding for that program and cancelled it.

So you created a problem just so you could be cruel to brown people because you're a Nazi.
 
No. What the Flores settlement said and then what the courts affirmed was that unaccompanied minors could not be detained for a period of more than 20 days. Nowhere in the Flores settlement does it say that families are to be ripped apart. You're lying because you're a Nazi and Nazis lie.

You are either lying or uninformed. Allow me to educate you as I did the other day.

The Flores settlement applied to unaccompanied minors and stated they could not be detained for more than 20 days

The 9th Circuit Court came behind that and said it also applied to ACCOMPANIED minors.

So if you support protecting our borders those two things make it impossible to not separate the families. Tough shit for you. Trump out played you guys with his EO like I said yesterday. I didn't see it at first. But I see it clearly now.
 
Can't just release them into the country can we?

Why not? When we funded the ISAP program, 99.8% of those in the program made their court appearance. None of them were detained.


That makes no sense does it? Or is that what you really want

So, the problem with you being a Russian troll is that you don't really understand how America works. Sure, your FSB officers may have briefed you on some of the basics of American law, but when it comes to the finer details, it's obvious you're just sort of gleaning info from other right-wing trolls online. When people arrive in this country seeking asylum, they have to turn themselves into the authorities. You can't declare asylum until you're in custody. What used to happen is that those people would be processed and then released via the ISAP program, in which 99.8% of those in the program made their court appearance. Depending on the judge's decision, the asylum seeker would either be granted asylum status, or deported. But prior to that court hearing, if the immigrant was enrolled in a program like ISAP, they were not detained in detention centers. They were monitored and had to check in with their case manager prior to the court date. And it was 99.8% successful, according to ICE.

Then you Nazis defunded that program and didn't have a solution other than locking people up on misdemeanor charges and tearing families apart. Why? Because you're Nazis and that's what Nazis do.
 
Damn. A libtard that actually gets it. And it is a win win for President Trump because he can accurately say that he did what the liberals asked him to do and tried to fix it with an EO even though he told them he couldn't. He will be proven to be right and the libtards will have egg on their faces.

He didn't sign the EO for the benefit of anyone but himself. And he's not a master strategist. All he did here was pull a stunt that traded one human rights abuse for another. And he did that because what he really wants to do is rip families apart because he's a Nazi, his supporters are Nazis, and that's what Nazis do.
 
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