Do the humanities need a rebrand?

Jones: How do you counter the narrative that going to college isn’t worth the investment, or that it’s a financial risk?

Acampora: I’d encourage people to look at the data, which strongly show college-educated workers fare better than those without a degree, almost universally across fields of study. They make more money, have better health outcomes, and live longer. From a holistic lifespan perspective, college is worth it.

Every friend I had, with one exception, who got bachelor's degrees in the humanities eventually ended up in white collar professional jobs. .

The one exception was a dude who had a union blue collar job.

None of them had a Starbucks career.
 
Every friend I had, with one exception, who got bachelor's degrees in the humanities eventually ended up in white collar professional jobs. .

The one exception was a dude who had a union blue collar job.

None of them had a Starbucks career.
This is how Trump came to power. Just a lot of fucking dumb people in America.
 
This is how Trump came to power. Just a lot of fucking dumb people in America.
The posters who are claiming that Starbucks is the only career option for history majors are just people who never actually went to college.
 
The posters who are claiming that Starbucks is the only career option for history majors are just people who never actually went to college.
One person on this thread said the humanities are useless because he learned German without going to college.
 
This is how Trump came to power. Just a lot of fucking dumb people in America.
Again, LOL. Look at your response yesterday to the Nikole Hannah-Jones story and PS 307 in NYC. And now you complain about dumb people?

Could spending $100K/yr studying the humanities teach someone to recognize the contradiction?
 
Again, LOL. Look at your response yesterday to the Nikole Hannah-Jones story and PS 307 in NYC. And now you complain about dumb people?

Could spending $100K/yr studying the humanities teach someone to recognize the contradiction?
Good, at least you are trying, for once, to debate me.
 
One person on this thread said the humanities are useless because he learned German without going to college.
A foreign language bachelor's degree is more than just learning the language. One of my high school friends got a French degree, and they had to study French history, French literature, French politics, French culture.
 
The irony in this thread is nobody is discovering how humanity intellectually contextually branded ancestral lineages since dawn of civilization.
 
It’s a waste of time and money to go to college for that. Anything you want to learn in humanities you can get from a library for free.
It's interesting. It is true that college grads on the whole earn more than non college grads. That doesn't mean (paying $100K/yr for) a Humanities degree is a worthwhile economic investment.

People are free to do it, but the college grads make more in support of a humanities degree argument is letting a lot of other majors do the heavy lifting.
 
One person on this thread said the humanities are useless because he learned German without going to college.
The UC Davis German degree requires coursework in German literature, German history, German culture, German cinema, German politics.

The university isn't giving anybody a degree in German just because they can speak conversational German.
 
The UC Davis

German degree requires coursework in German literature,
I still read German newspapers.
German history,
Not much there. Germany became a country in 1871.
German culture,
You think one learns more about the culture from a book than living there for three years and visiting at least once a year for the last 30 years?
Oh yeah, UC Davis is ranked so high that it's possible there.
German cinema,


I've seen movies at actual Kinos . Still occasionally watch them in the German language. My favorite is Good Bye Lenin!
German politics.
They don't discuss German politics w/ friends and family in Germany at UC Davis or any other university in the U.S.
The university isn't giving anybody a degree in German just because they can speak conversational German.There's no university in the U.S. that can come close to actually living there, having family there and visiting there at least once a year. And I'm there for at least three weeks.

And they can't teach what living in the DDR was actually like compared to having a spouse that lived it. Not only lived it but lived in Leipzig where the first Montagsdemonstrationen at Nikolaikirche began. You simply can't teach that.
Regardless, all the stuff you mentioned about getting a German degree is nothing more than what you can obtain from a good library.
I don't need that useless degree from UC Davis or anywhere else.
 
The UC Davis German degree requires coursework in German literature, German history, German culture, German cinema, German politics.

The university isn't giving anybody a degree in German just because they can speak conversational German.
This coming from someone who thinks he knows all about NOLA after living there for only 20 months and skidaddled out of there .
 
Not much there! Germany became a country in 1871!
German history includes Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire.

You sure don't know much about Germany despite claiming to have such an affinity for it.

No accredited American university would give you a German degree because you can understand conversational German.

University students who earn German degrees are expected to have knowledge of the entire German tradition, including German literature, history, culture, cinema.
 
German history includes Prussia and the Holy Roman Empire.
Wow. Tell me about it. Is that all you got?
What eventually became germans were different tribes. They didn't even speak the same language.

You sure don't know much about Germany despite claiming to have such an affinity for it.

I know far more than can be taught at UC Davis or any other university.
No one there ever argued with their neighbor ladies about when I can put my garbage out.
No one there ever belonged to a German golf club. https://golfclubkitzingen.de
No one there ever swam with a Schwimmverein.
No one there ever ate schnitzel at little known Gaststätten in villages such as Düllstadt made by the Frau of a pig farmer .
No one there ever skied in Reit im Winkl, Garmisch-Partrenkirchen, Obertsdorf and so many more in Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein that I forgot them all.
No one there ever went to the various wine fests in the villages of Kreis Kitzingen.
No one there ever experienced the delicious Federweißer available only in the fall.
I could go on and on.


No accredited American university would give you a German degree because you can understand conversational German.
And I wouldn't expect them to. Why would I want one? I forgot more about Germay, it's customs, politics, culture and idiomatic languages in Franken, Austria and Sachsen than they could ever teach. Even every town has its own unique dialect. Würzburg was only 18 kilometers away and I had a difficult time understanding them even though I had no problem in Kitzingen.
 
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Wow. Tell me about it. Is that all you got?
What eventually became germans were different tribes.
LOL, the Holy Roman Empire was not different tribes speaking different languages. You're thinking of the Goths of the age of Roman antiquity.

The principalities of the HRE were all Germanic speaking people loosely united under the Holy Roman Emperor ever since the Middle Ages, and ultimately united under the leadership of the Germanic state of Prussia in 1871.

You obviously didn't even know what the HRE until this thread.

Your barely adequate skills in conversational German is not even remotely close to being equivalent to a German degree from an accredited American university. The university requires you to become knowledgeable not only with the language of Germany, but it's history, literature, it's politics, it's cinema, culture, and philosophy.

You're supposed to graduate as accomplished student of Germany, not just someone who can order beer and sausages at an Oktoberfest in Hamburg
 
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