“DOJ opens investigation into E. Jean Carroll”


Is there anyone out there who dared criticize or spoke out against Trump that hasn’t been sued, “investigated” or indicted? The DOJ ought to just move to MaraLago and drop the facade

The Department of Justice’s mission statement says, “The mission of the Department of Justice is to uphold the rule of law, to keep our country safe, and to protect civil rights,” to which they ought to add, “and to investigate, indite, and prosecute anyone Trump tells us to as our top priority

One of the first steps of an autocrat is to silence his critics
Is she above the law?
 
Trump has lost two major cases and Jury findings to E Jean.

He has appealed twice and had 2 standard Second Circuit review the case and failed.

He has then further appealed twice more for an en banc rehearing and after review those failed.

He has applications to the Supreme Court, which almost certainly will also fail, with the SC refusing to hear these cases.

And despite all this process being taken advantage by Trump and at each level appeal the findings of Trump sexually assaulting and defaming E Jean being upheld, his magats will claim Trump did not do it and the courts and Juries were all wrong.


The Carroll case rested on a sequence of legal maneuvers with no precedent in American civil litigation.

Democrat legislators passed a retroactive temporary law eliminating the statute of limitations for decades-old accusations that could not be dated, located, or defended with alibis.

The day the temporary law took effect, Carroll filed her pre-prepared lawsuit, the first in the state to do so.

A Democrat mega-donor secretly funded the plaintiff’s legal costs through a nonprofit. The arrangement stayed hidden until one of Trump’s lawyers discovered it.

A Clinton-appointed judge then sealed all records so the jury never learned the billionaire backer had publicly committed to Trump’s political destruction.

Every participant in the legislative, funding, and judicial steps operated inside the same political network, and each decision produced the same cumulative result.

The jury explicitly checked “no” on the verdict forms' specific rape question.

The judge ruled rape proven anyway, claiming the jury had used a common rather than statutory definition… an impossibility, since their rejection under the common definition precludes rape by any standard.

Trump’s team was barred from arguing innocence before a second jury, which awarded $83.3 million ($65 million punitive) on the rape finding the first jury had rejected.

A defendant was sued for defamation over denying an accusation, prevented from asserting that denial as a defense, tried before a judge who concealed the plaintiff’s political funding, and hit with a nine-figure verdict built on facts the jury itself refused to find.

No comparable sequence exists in recorded U.S. civil litigation history.
 
Nope. Which is why she submitted herself to the law already and got rulings she did nothing wrong or illegal.

Should she be subject to Trumps DoJ retribution harassment regardless of that?
She should be thoroughly investigated.

If she did nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about right?
 
She should be thoroughly investigated.

If she did nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about right?
I know, all rape victims should, because according to you, "women who are raped have it coming".

I'd call you an evil prick, but you're just stupid.
 
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She should be thoroughly investigated.

If she did nothing wrong she has nothing to worry about right?
Based on what?

she has two court rulings already, where the claimed incident was investigated and ruled not an issue.

If she should be "fully investigated", should you also be? Should not everyone? since you seem to not need a valid predication is this not the full weaponize of the DoJ you magats pretended you cared about?
 

Is there anyone out there who dared criticize or spoke out against Trump that hasn’t been sued, “investigated” or indicted? The DOJ ought to just move to MaraLago and drop the facade

The Department of Justice’s mission statement says, “The mission of the Department of Justice is to uphold the rule of law, to keep our country safe, and to protect civil rights,” to which they ought to add, “and to investigate, indite, and prosecute anyone Trump tells us to as our top priority

One of the first steps of an autocrat is to silence his critics
Not only good but fucking good!

Your game and your rules but you dont want to play
 
The Carroll case rested on a sequence of legal maneuvers with no precedent in American civil litigation.

Democrat legislators passed a retroactive temporary law eliminating the statute of limitations for decades-old accusations that could not be dated, located, or defended with alibis.

The day the temporary law took effect, Carroll filed her pre-prepared lawsuit, the first in the state to do so.
It's so funny the way you cult members don't understand how time works.
E Jean Carroll first filed suit in 2019 for defamation. (She won that suit and was awarded $83 million.)
In May of 2022, NY passed the Adult Survivors Act. E Jean Carroll then files suit under that as well along with another defamation suit since Trump continued to defame her. She was awarded roughly $2 million for the assault and $3 million for the defamation.
A Democrat mega-donor secretly funded the plaintiff’s legal costs through a nonprofit. The arrangement stayed hidden until one of Trump’s lawyers discovered it.

A Clinton-appointed judge then sealed all records so the jury never learned the billionaire backer had publicly committed to Trump’s political destruction.

Every participant in the legislative, funding, and judicial steps operated inside the same political network, and each decision produced the same cumulative result.

The jury explicitly checked “no” on the verdict forms' specific rape question.
The jury explicitly checked "yes" on the verdict for sexual abuse. It's funny that you think arguing that Trump only sexually abused her is somehow a win. Do you think that because you are in a cult?
The judge ruled rape proven anyway, claiming the jury had used a common rather than statutory definition… an impossibility, since their rejection under the common definition precludes rape by any standard.
The jury didn't reject rape under the common definition. They rejected rape under the legal definition of rape at the time that Trump sexually abused and attacked E Jean Carroll. That legal definition is not the common definition since it was restricted to penile penetration. Are you so deep in your cult that you don't know the difference between a legal definition and a common definition?
Trump’s team was barred from arguing innocence before a second jury, which awarded $83.3 million ($65 million punitive) on the rape finding the first jury had rejected.
The second jury awarded zero dollars for rape. They awarded $83 million for the repeated defamation.
A defendant was sued for defamation over denying an accusation, prevented from asserting that denial as a defense, tried before a judge who concealed the plaintiff’s political funding, and hit with a nine-figure verdict built on facts the jury itself refused to find.
Trump was not denied the chance to testify. He refused to testify. He refused to turn over a DNA sample when asked. The jury found that Trump sexually abused E Jean Carroll. That means Trump did meet her. That means Trump did sexually abuse her. Both things Trump denied when he defamed her. Once a jury finds a fact to be true, it is considered true by the courts. Trump sexually assaulted E Jean Carroll. Under the common definition today that would be rape. Your arguments are based on you being in a cult and trying to deny reality.
No comparable sequence exists in recorded U.S. civil litigation history.
No cult like the Trump cult has ever been so out of touch with reality in recorded US history.
 
Based on what?

she has two court rulings already, where the claimed incident was investigated and ruled not an issue.

If she should be "fully investigated", should you also be? Should not everyone? since you seem to not need a valid predication is this not the full weaponize of the DoJ you magats pretended you cared about?
You guys proved with Trump that you don't need proof to investigate someone. Just need an allegation.
 
You guys proved with Trump that you don't need proof to investigate someone. Just need an allegation.
Right.

So that was not "proved" with the non stop Bill, Hillary and Obama investigations that proceeded Trump and what you guys never had a problem with then.

It was Magats who ran on ENDING the politicization of DoJ and ENDING these type of investigations and now you are saying 'THEY DID IT PRIOR SO NOW IT IS RIGHT FOR US TO CONTINUE IT".

Do you not see how that leads to the justification for this to continue forever?
 
It's so funny the way you cult members don't understand how time works.
E Jean Carroll first filed suit in 2019 for defamation. (She won that suit and was awarded $83 million.)
In May of 2022, NY passed the Adult Survivors Act. E Jean Carroll then files suit under that as well along with another defamation suit since Trump continued to defame her. She was awarded roughly $2 million for the assault and $3 million for the defamation.

The jury explicitly checked "yes" on the verdict for sexual abuse. It's funny that you think arguing that Trump only sexually abused her is somehow a win. Do you think that because you are in a cult?

The jury didn't reject rape under the common definition. They rejected rape under the legal definition of rape at the time that Trump sexually abused and attacked E Jean Carroll. That legal definition is not the common definition since it was restricted to penile penetration. Are you so deep in your cult that you don't know the difference between a legal definition and a common definition?

The second jury awarded zero dollars for rape. They awarded $83 million for the repeated defamation.

Trump was not denied the chance to testify. He refused to testify. He refused to turn over a DNA sample when asked. The jury found that Trump sexually abused E Jean Carroll. That means Trump did meet her. That means Trump did sexually abuse her. Both things Trump denied when he defamed her. Once a jury finds a fact to be true, it is considered true by the courts. Trump sexually assaulted E Jean Carroll. Under the common definition today that would be rape. Your arguments are based on you being in a cult and trying to deny reality.

No cult like the Trump cult has ever been so out of touch with reality in recorded US history.
Yup.

What the jury found...

"BECAUSE WE CANNOT PROVE IF IT WAS PENILE OR FINGER FORCED PENETRATION AND A RULING OF RAPE REQUIRES THAT PROOF, INSTEAD WE ARE RULING SEXUAL ASSAULT, WHICH DOES NOT EXCLUDE THE PENILE (RAPE) PENTRATION BUT DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY FIND IT."

How do magat cultists respond to the above.

'ZOMG Trump won as he was only found to have forcibly penetrate E Jean with his finger and not necessarily his penis. What a win'

That ^^^ is what the magat cult defines as a win for Trump. :rofl2:
 
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Right.

So that was not "proved" with the non stop Bill, Hillary and Obama investigations that proceeded Trump and what you guys never had a problem with then.

It was Magats who ran on ENDING the politicization of DoJ and ENDING these type of investigations and now you are saying 'THEY DID IT PRIOR SO NOW IT IS RIGHT FOR US TO CONTINUE IT".

Do you not see how that leads to the justification for this to continue forever?
aren't you sad that you guys complained about the political weaponization fund now? She could have applied.

Oh well
 
aren't you sad that you guys complained about the political weaponization fund now? She could have applied.

Oh well
... because you believed that Trump's hand picked board would have approved her.

Ya, you really wanted that fund badly thinking all sorts of leftists and Democrats would have been found to qualify.


/TeflonDon stupidity

I finished your thought (or lack thereof for you, above)
 
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