Fauci is lying about gain-of-function research

volsrock said:
Coronavirus czar Dr. Anthony Fauci insisted this week that Sen. Rand Paul had slandered him during a congressional hearing. Paul had pressed Fauci about whether the National Institutes of Health funded dangerous gain-of-function research in China. However, all of the evidence suggests Paul is right, and Fauci is lying.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...of-function-research/ar-AAMut5e?ocid=msedgntp


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And look at how the people who run America dont care.

We are going down Baby!
 
volsrock said:
Coronavirus czar Dr. Anthony Fauci insisted this week that Sen. Rand Paul had slandered him during a congressional hearing. Paul had pressed Fauci about whether the National Institutes of Health funded dangerous gain-of-function research in China. However, all of the evidence suggests Paul is right, and Fauci is lying.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...of-function-research/ar-AAMut5e?ocid=msedgntp


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Of course he is, if you pull and opinion piece out of the "Washington Examiner" guarantee he will be every time, nothing new to see here
 
archives said:
Of course he is, if you pull and opinion piece out of the "Washington Examiner" guarantee he will be every time, nothing new to see here
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At the absolute very best, the NIH didn’t fund gain of function research based on a tightly worded definition—which Fauci never attempted to explain to Paul. It was just a lot of hand waving about other [carefully chosen] experts saying it wasn’t going to GOF research.

To which one could easily say ‘big deal’ because it misses the point. Why were ANY tax dollars going to a CCP controlled virology lab where *it was known* they were fiddling with spike proteins and bats?

Fauci was bullshitting anyway. Doctor Shi [China’s lead virologist and gene fiddler] claimed the NIH funded gain of function research, and, she had the grant number to prove it. What’s her motivation to lie? I can’t think of one.

Fauci on the other hand…
 
Darth Omar said:
At the absolute very best, the NIH didn’t fund gain of function research based on a tightly worded definition—which Fauci never attempted to explain to Paul. It was just a lot of hand waving about other [carefully chosen] experts saying it wasn’t going to GOF research.

To which one could easily say ‘big deal’ because it misses the point. Why were ANY tax dollars going to a CCP controlled virology lab where *it was known* they were fiddling with spike proteins and bats?

Fauci was bullshitting anyway. Doctor Shi [China’s lead virologist and gene fiddler] claimed the NIH funded gain of function research, and, she had the grant number to prove it. What’s her motivation to lie? I can’t think of one.

Fauci on the other hand…
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You still have no proof of any of this? Yet are still repeating it?
 
Darth Omar said:
True, I wasn’t provided the actual document. Are you suggesting Rand Paul just made it up?
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I really don't know. He probably "heard" it somewhere, but it's odd that he's provided no proof, including "the grant number", since he went ape shit in a Senate conference room.
 
Diesel said:
I really don't know. He probably "heard" it somewhere, but it's odd that he's provided no proof, including "the grant number", since he went ape shit in a Senate conference room.
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Fauci didn’t deny the document or the funding [and assuming the grant number].

Fauci claimed the funding didn’t go to GOF research based on how he and his buddies defined it. However that was, because he wouldn’t explain himself further. The broader point is why was ANY tax dollars going to a virology lab that does GOF research?

That’s a clear wtf.
 
Darth Omar said:
Fauci didn’t deny the document or the funding [and assuming the grant number].

Fauci claimed the funding didn’t go to GOF research based on how he and his buddies defined it. However that was, because he wouldn’t explain himself further. The broader point is why was ANY tax dollars going to a virology lab that does GOF research?

That’s a clear wtf.
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And is largely supported with Chinese Military funds from what I have heard.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I saw someone yesterday claim that "Gain of Function" is a euphemism for "Weaponized".

Made me think.
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Fauci was trying to obfuscate on it but the definition is self explanatory. And yeah, it could be used for peaceful [predict evolutionary changes and predict possible pandemics] purposes or weaponized to produce a pandemic.
 
Darth Omar said:
Fauci was trying to obfuscate on it but the definition is self explanatory. And yeah, it could be used for peaceful [predict evolutionary changes and predict possible pandemics] purposes or weaponized to produce a pandemic.
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Bret has been talking about how the claims that there is an upside to GOF research is not at all proven , and that we already know that modern corrupt science chases the available money rather than the good or useful.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
And is largely supported with Chinese Military funds from what I have heard.
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Exactly.

One had to be a special kind of naive to think any tax dollars going to a virology lab in China is going to ‘not’ be controlled by the CCP or the Chinese military.
 
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