Florida man found guilty of manslaughter in parking lot shooting that led to 'Stand Y
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evince
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If I came out of the store to see some asshole screaming at my kids for being in a car I would very likely be ready to fuck the guy up
what words did the gun nutter heave at this mans family when he walked up on him
He was packing already
he was screaming at a woman and children who did NOT approach HIM
Image walking up as some stranger is screaming evil shit at your family
I would have been ready to take him down physically too.
but Im a white lady so if the guy shot me NO ONE would have questioned me shoving his ass to the ground
what words did the gun nutter heave at this mans family when he walked up on him
He was packing already
he was screaming at a woman and children who did NOT approach HIM
Image walking up as some stranger is screaming evil shit at your family
I would have been ready to take him down physically too.
but Im a white lady so if the guy shot me NO ONE would have questioned me shoving his ass to the ground
evince
Truthmatters
Ill go back and check but that was my impression of the situation
signalmankenneth
Verified User
My advice for Michael Drejka, is to ask for PC when he gets to the joint?!! The only other way of protection is to join a prison gang?!! I hope they give him the max sentence, of 30 years too! One good thing, is he will no longer be able carry or own a firearm when he gets out!
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I don't know all the details of the case. From what I've seen, and I haven't followed this, some guy was talking to a woman in a car. Then, some other guy walks out of a store and casually walks towards the guy talking to the woman. Then, with no warning, the guy violently shoves this guy off his feet and he ends up on the ground. Then, the guy on the ground moves around a bit and pulls out a gun. The 'pusher' sees the gun, but doesn't raise his hands, back away, or verbally 'surrender'. By just standing there, the 'pusher' is maintaining a threatening posture. The guy on the ground shoots the 'pusher' in the chest. The 'pusher' grabs his chest and now decides to back away. Actually, running away and apparently making a conscious decision not to physically attack the guy on the ground anymore.
In my opinion, the 'pusher' gave NO WARNING of a confrontation. Sorta' like a 'sucker punch'. Real chickenshit in most guys opinions. Then when clearly confronted with a gun pointed at him, stood there with a "Fuck you" attitude. After receiving a shot to the chest, his attitude changed, he was no more confrontational, and no longer had a "Fuck you" attitude.
In my opinion, the 'Stand Your Ground' law is to protect the physically weak from the aggressive types. Like in this case. There was NO REASON for the 'Sucker Punch'. Now Evince, I doubt you have been in many 'street fights', but the person standing is in a superior position to the guy on the ground. If there was no gun, and the guy on the ground attempted to get up, my prediction would be that the 'pusher' would have kicked the guy in the face before he had time to get up.
The guy that got shot, ... got exactly what he deserved. And that Message should have been announced. The physically aggressive attacking the weak will not be tolerated.
I agree. Another "It's because he was black" mantra of the PC Fascists.
Nomad
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The video shows no indication of him "screaming" at her. And especially not her kids as you claimed previously.
Arguing is not screaming. "Screaming" is a hyperbolic term used only as an attempt to justify the black guy walking up and physically assaulting the man with no attempt to diffuse the situation verbally.
I agree that shooting him was unnecessary, but the unnecessary physical assault by the black guy should be considered a mitigating circumstance during sentencing.
Nomad
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That's not what I see.
The "pusher" saw the gun and started backing away.
At that point, the shooter should have verbally warned him and kept his finger off the trigger.
Two idiots who learned a lesson the hard way.
Blackcat13th
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Cowards and wimps, you have to have big big balls to shoot someone. In every case self defense goes to trial. Is everything going to go your way? Innocent people are convicted all the time.
The comment was made that stand your ground law is for "cowards and wimps." So everyone should be a trained ufc unarmed combat expert to have rights? Sounds like the views of subconcious pederasts. That's who uses 'real scotsmen fallacy.'
You think dumbasses with muscles
The comment was made that stand your ground law is for "cowards and wimps." So everyone should be a trained ufc unarmed combat expert to have rights? Sounds like the views of subconcious pederasts. That's who uses 'real scotsmen fallacy.'
You think dumbasses with muscles
Blackcat13th
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Cut it there, you get the idea.
No edit button sucks.
No edit button sucks.
Nomad
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No, he didn't deserve to die.
Maybe this will serve as a warning to other big, aggressive macho idiots who want to use physical confrontation as a first choice rather than the last resort.
And as warning to macho, goofball gun-loving Chuck Norris wannabes about the potential consequences of carrying their guns in public and using them to settle disputes.
In my view, the 'pusher' was still in an 'attack position' and did not retreat. He maintained a "Fuck you" attitude and was still an immediate threat to the guy on the ground.
Do you think if this guy on the ground would have attempted to get up, the 'pusher' wouldn't have rushed in and kicked this guy in the face?
Think about it, Rolly-Polly guy on the ground has to roll over, he's on his knees, needs both hands on the ground to get up. That's when 'pusher' rushes in for face kick.
The 'pusher' never retreated from an 'attach position'.
Nomad
Verified User
Nope.
Plain as day.
As soon as the gun comes up, the pusher backs up.
The rest is pure speculation and legally irrelevant.
All the shooter had to do was hold the gun on the pusher, warn him of what would happen if he tried to further assault, then stay in that position until the pusher got in his car and left or otherwise signaled his retreat.
The push should be considered a mitigating factor in sentencing, though.
Eagle_Eye
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Florida man found guilty of manslaughter in parking lot shooting that led to 'Stand Your Ground' trial
Clearwater, Florida (CNN)Michael Drejka, who fatally shot an unarmed man, Markeis McGlockton, last summer in Florida during a dispute over a handicapped-accessible parking spot, was found guilty of manslaughter Friday night.
The judge set the sentencing date for October 10. Drejka faces up to 30 years in prison.
Drejka, who didn't take the witness stand, tried unsuccessfully to use Florida's "stand your ground' law as a defense for justifiable homicide. The case renewed a nationwide debate on the controversial law.
Jury deliberations lasted about six hours, with a brief pause around 9:30 p.m. when jurors sought clarification on the instructions for deciding guilt or innocence.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/23/us/florida-trial-michael-drejka/index.html
The verdict was correct, it was a case of murder and a display of cowardice too?!!
The stand your ground law, is a law for cowards and wimps, it gives courage to people who have none?!!
Ok Signal less there are those that abuse the laws. But how many times has a Stand your Ground law protected the person from injury or death? You anti gun nuts always take one example and pretend it's the norm.
In my opinion, 'pusher' had an option to 'retreat from Battle' or maintain a 'Threatening Position'.
Did you notice the difference when 'pusher' got shot? His attitude changed, he decided to 'retreat from Battle', he was no longer in a 'Threatening Position'.
The guy on the ground felt safe. He didn't run after the guy and keep shooting him.
'pusher' is the Aggressor by violently shoving the guy off his feet. 'pusher' was given an option to 'Back the fuck off'. 'pusher' made a conscious decision to maintain his Aggressive Stance. 'pusher' was given Educational Assistance by getting shot in the chest, 'pusher' finally received Knowledge by removing himself from the Field of Battle.
The Violent Aggressor getting shot ... should be the norm.
Sirthinksalot
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Cite evidence that he was "threatening" them or STFU.