GAO releases finding: TRUMP broke the law withholding Ukrain funds

Given that every single poster on this board knows intuitively how sleazy Donald Trump is; how we all know he has lived a generally ethics-free life, this sounds totally believable to us all.

Parnas: Trump threatened to withhold more than just military aid to Ukraine

Rudy Giuliani’s associate Lev Parnas alleged in an interview Wednesday that President Trump threatened to withhold more than just military aid from Ukraine.

Parnas unleashed a slew of new accusations against the president, including that he, as a representative of Trump, gave Ukrainian officials a “very harsh message” that the U.S. would cut off all aid to the country if it did not announce an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden.

“The message was it wasn’t just military aid. It was all aid,” he told MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow. “Basically, the relationship would be sour. We would stop giving them any kind of aid.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...threatened-to-withhold-more-than-just-ukraine
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Cypress said:
Given that every single poster on this board knows intuitively how sleazy Donald Trump is; how we all know he has lived a generally ethics-free life, this sounds totally believable to us all.
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You were stupid enough to think Obama was qualified based solely on his skin color, you'd believe anything. You likely thought Hillary would win, too.

0-2 now, boy.
 
Cypress said:
Given that every single poster on this board knows intuitively how sleazy Donald Trump is; how we all know he has lived a generally ethics-free life, this sounds totally believable to us all.
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We continue to look at the tip of an iceberg. Who knows just how much more incriminating evidence will surface in the coming weeks and months. This administration is totally corrupt from head to toe.They are capable of anything.
 
floridafan said:
We continue to look at the tip of an iceberg. Who knows just how much more incriminating evidence will surface in the coming weeks and months. This administration is totally corrupt from head to toe.They are capable of anything.
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Too right you are
 
All along our Reichwing friends have been screeching that the impeachment is a hoax and that TRE45ON didn't break any laws/commit any crimes. Oops.
 
“Gene L. Dodaro became the eighth Comptroller General of the United States and head of the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) on December 22, 2010, when he was confirmed by the United States Senate. He was nominated by President Obama


No bias here
 
volsrock said:
Really? Where does it say that in the law? Since the funds were released weeks before the deadline there is nothing wrong.

My understanding is that Congress mandated the Whitehouse to vet foreign aid packages before releasing the money. That is what they were doing.
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volsrock said:
Did they site the law or statute that was violated?
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From the OP linked article:

At issue is a federal law known as the Impoundment Control Act, which requires executive agencies to spend money that Congress has appropriated. The GAO report concludes that the OMB “withheld funds for a policy reason,” which is not a legal reason to do so.

“Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law. OMB withheld funds for a policy reason, which is not permitted under the Impoundment Control Act (ICA)” the GAO said.

Trump and his associates attempted to use the delay in military funds to coerce Ukraine’s president into issuing a public statement that his country was “investigating” former Vice President Joe Biden’s family — a scheme that has formed the basis of his impeachment.
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Everybody knows this is all true.

All the shameless denial, obfuscation and willful ignorance of Trump's sycophant base will not change that.
 
volsrock said:
Trump gave Ukraine every penny of aid it was promised - and all within the time prescribed by the law.
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Only after and because he got caught!!!!

If any average citizen attempted to break a law then stopped short after he got caught, he'd still face prosecution as a criminal.

Attempting to commit a crime is a CRIME.
 
The GAO finds multpile things wrong with each admin including obamas and the only thing that happens is administrative processes are changed.
 
Nomad said:
Only after and because he got caught!!!!

If any average citizen attempted to break a law then stopped short after he got caught, he'd still face prosecution as a criminal.

Attempting to commit a crime is a CRIME.
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Administrative opinion versus judicial law.



Wake me up when a court concludes it’s a violation.
 
Law does NOT say they have to be dispersed immediately, says they have to be dispersed “by the end of the fiscal year. They were so this GAO announcements is pure partisan drivel without a shred of fact to it.

An Obama appointee made this decision. The OMB says they are wrong. Says delays in disbursements are normal in these situation.
 
Where in the Congressional Budget is there a date set to disperse funds to the Ukraine?


Law is “end of the fiscal year” not “immediately”

 
The agency offered an opinion. It does not have the force of law and is based on a premise shown to be false numerous times. Reading the mind of President Trump is certainly not within their purview. Nothing illegal was done in regards to funds to Ukraine. Spin it all they like their opinion does not amount to a hill of shit in real life application.
 
Nomad said:
Only after and because he got caught!!!!

If any average citizen attempted to break a law then stopped short after he got caught, he'd still face prosecution as a criminal.

Attempting to commit a crime is a CRIME.
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Even then, as of mid-December 2019, Ukraine still had not received the entire amount approved.

"Ukraine still has not received $20.2 million in U.S. military aid, even as House Democrats move forward with articles of impeachment against President Trump that are focused on withheld security assistance to Kyiv.

"The Los Angeles Times reported Thursday, citing Pentagon and Senate aides, that a portion of the Defense Department's $250 million share of $391 million in overall assistance remains in U.S. accounts."

https://thehill.com/policy/national...not-received-20-million-in-aid-from-us-report
 
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