Global player of the year: Xi JinPing

anatta said:
if you want to confront China -you have to use our leverage as a bigger economy.
We've already seen an organization like the WTO is worse then useless -giving the appearance of "free trade"
but never performing for such
Biden seems to get this -although his idea of a co-lateral isn't feasible

You keep criticizing a bilateral but really dont offer anything else
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Then why did you fight TPP ASS HAIR
 
anatta said:
the point was looking to partner with the EU isn't going to happen/

The best we'll get is Australia (still doubtful) -and because trade is tricky business -
each country has different priorities-Biden's "idea" of a "coalition" against China is fantasy land
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Tru DaT

The idea of a grand coalition is way past it's prime..(But the USA could perhaps change that if it takes it's traditional role as the leader of the west/Euro alliance)

Off the top I would say back when Obama was entangled in saving wallstreet & banks from their fails while fleecing the country & fighting two bush wars was the ideal time to put them in their place & keep them there~that was a long time ago it seems, as they have expanded astronomically since..

The USA/west have fought & won many battles- cold war, ME, Panama, Nicaragua, Grenada, Narco terrorist, Islamic terrorist etc :blah:

It is rather the ccp that is creating the grand alliance against the pax Americana & the western oriented world order while the USA itself went into isolation of sorts...

IMHO we are stronger together-PERIOD
 
anatta said:
so we are back to where Trump started. a bilateral -which Biden opposes
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?? No one but them thinks their transgressions in the south china sea is legal, moral or has any grounds whatSOever...........

That alone is a foundation of cooperation, one w/ many of it's new vassals oppose ccp efforts
 
anatta said:
if you want to confront China -you have to use our leverage as a bigger economy.
We've already seen an organization like the WTO is worse then useless -giving the appearance of "free trade"
but never performing for such
Biden seems to get this -although his idea of a co-lateral isn't feasible

You keep criticizing a bilateral but really dont offer anything else
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I told you repeatedly how-did you want me to draw it up, lay out the frame work??

I have said repeatedly the WTO is but one tool & yet you keep harping back to it..
 
Bill said:
They were not the only ones-listen to what Hillary said
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Because she was forced to say it electorally


It passed me off when she did it


The lies about it were piled too high at the time

But we all knows lies were what won when trump won


It was still the right way to help solve the China problem


It’s why the Russian owned Republican Party was so against it

As you can now clearly say Moscow Mitch and all the other Donnie converts are helping Russian destroy America as ordered
 
evince said:
Because she was forced to say it electorally


It passed me off when she did it


The lies about it were piled too high at the time

But we all knows lies were what won when trump won


It was still the right way to help solve the China problem


It’s why the Russian owned Republican Party was so against it

As you can now clearly say Moscow Mitch and all the other Donnie converts are helping Russian destroy America as ordered
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I was strongly against the deal, as it was laid out......

That does not mean it should have just been arbrtarily tossed out because it was an Obama deal...

The great pretender of great deals couldn't work his magic??

Of course not, he has no magic & sold to fools that a hill of beans was a great deal & more to come~more never came=FAIL
 
Bill said:
I was strongly against the deal, as it was laid out......

That does not mean it should have just been arbrtarily tossed out because it was an Obama deal...

The great pretender of great deals couldn't work his magic??

Of course not, he has no magic & sold to fools that a hill of beans was a great deal & more to come~more never came=FAIL
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What part of it bugged you?
 
evince said:
What part of it bugged you?
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Essentially the deal was written by & for wallstreet, they get the protections the rest of us take the losses.........

It incentivized even more manufacturing to leave the USA & hurting domestic workers.....

So while it may have blunted China, & protected the huge corporations, it fucked the working ppl of this country............
 
Bill said:
Essentially the deal was written by & for wallstreet, they get the protections the rest of us take the losses.........

It incentivized even more manufacturing to leave the USA & hurting domestic workers.....

So while it may have blunted China, & protected the huge corporations, it fucked the working ppl of this country............
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Dude


That is not discussing the parts you claim will have that results


That is you merely telling us what you THOUGHT it would do


Go get the parts of it you believe would result in your clams


Substance please

To back your impressions
 
Bill said:
I told you repeatedly how-did you want me to draw it up, lay out the frame work??

I have said repeatedly the WTO is but one tool & yet you keep harping back to it..
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you should at least tell me how you are going to trade with China outside the WTO then
 
A trade deal is a deal


What happens when you make a deal?


Compromise



That means you don’t get EVERYTHING that you want and your partner in the deal gains nothing so that you can have EVERY BENEFIT possible



You bought the right wing bullshit like most Americans did


The republicans have made Americans believe compromise is evil



That means democracy is evil
 
evince said:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership


We will need to revisit this issue


It was a great plan


It’s why it was trashed so hard by the right
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I even provided a link to make it easy


Show us the deal killer part of this deal


This DEAL would have held China back


They would have had to face the vast majority of their market for goods that was United in dealing with them


Deal with us as a United group or lose your buyers


The world would have been much harder for them to roll over
 
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