Harley Davidson shutting down US factory, moving jobs to Bangkok ................

"They instead announced a plant closing". Yes, one conceived in 2015. It's what rawstory does. It's why it's not a credible site and appeals to the fringe.

But but but the tax cut. it was supposed to keep businesses. It was supposed to make them stay according to trump. And there they go, jobs and plants moving. Raw Story is not making it up. If it is Raw Story, then that means Harley is not moving? Is that what you are saying?? great problem solved.
 
But but but the tax cut. it was supposed to keep businesses. It was supposed to make them stay according to trump. And there they go, jobs and plants moving. Raw Story is not making it up. If it is Raw Story, then that means Harley is not moving? Is that what you are saying?? great problem solved.

Stick to groaning posts. Something so basic yet even though it's been posted a couple dozen times it's still over your head.
 
Stick to groaning posts. Something so basic yet even though it's been posted a couple dozen times it's still over your head.

This thread has gone silly. The fact is, neither Obama nor Trump had/has anything to do with this.
This was/is a business decision. The decision to build a plant overseas was to service the Asian market, to avoid foreign tariffs. After a little research, HD won't be importing those products back to America.
Now, HD reports a 4 year decline in sales so every stockholder has lost money over the last 4 years. Anyone with any common sense knows no one will buy stock in a company who is losing money, in other words, those stockholders couldn't sell their stock even if they wanted to. Tax cut or not, HD, by closing that plant, frees up capitol to buy back stock in hopes of a reversal in declining sales here in America (it happened after those 13 investors bought the company from AMF). And, they're moving production from that closed plant to York PA. which will add jobs to that plant (doubtfully the number lost in the closed plant). There is no question these decisions were made before Trump's tax cut!
Do any of you liberals have a 401K? Do you watch what investments you have and whether they are making you money or not? I do, and when one investment starts losing money, I transfer to one I hope will make me the most money, and over the last 2-3 years, I've been pretty lucky to make a respectable amount more than if I left it alone and not paid any attention to it. That, and with my firearm investments (an example is my M-1, I paid $185 for one, it's worth over $1200 now) and a few antiques I'll be selling over the next few years, I will be retiring 4 years early. Business decisions!
 
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From the OP link:

“Part of my job is being moved to York, but the other part is going to Bangkok,” claimed Richard Pence, a Harley machinist working at the Kansas City plant, in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, adding the company is already packing up the plant and that he suspects some of the machinery is heading overseas.

“These companies are taking tax breaks with one hand and handing out pink slips with the other,” said International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers President Bob Martinez Jr in a statement. “I’m going to call it like I see it … this is a corporate ambush on working people.”

“I think there’s going to be a big layoff in August and an even bigger one in October. After that, we will basically have a few hundred people left to finish out the Sportster line through the next model-year next spring. Then, that will be it for us,” Pence — an employee of Harley Davidson for over 21 years — added, before stating, “It’s sort of like the horse is out of the barn now.”

This is very sad.

But I am not surprised at all.

Trump supporters thought he was looking out for them: HA!

Trump is looking out for the richest class all the way, suckers.

Working class Trump supporters? You got used.
 
Well look at the Good News ... those Dumb Fucks at Harley Davidson who Voted for Trump will get their Big Tax Break next year wit Unemployment Checks


Fucking Suckers ... :laugh:
 
Well look at the Good News ... those Dumb Fucks at Harley Davidson who Voted for Trump will get their Big Tax Break next year wit Unemployment Checks


Fucking Suckers ... :laugh:

Even though they already decided to close the plant in 2015?

How would senario have played different if Hillary was President?
 
Even though they already decided to close the plant in 2015?

How would senario have played different if Hillary was President?


Do we need to replay all the Donald Trump YouTube Videos of him in The White House bragging ...

Don't play the game ... you'll lose.
 
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Do we need to replay all the Donald Trump YouTube Videos of him in The White House bragging ...

Don't play the game ... you'll lose.

Leaving aside that's response avoids the question how did HD know in 2015 there would be a tax cut in 2015 and thus decided they would close the KC plant? This is like a real life Back To The Future Part 2. What do they have that no one else does?
 
Hello cawacko,

Even though they already decided to close the plant in 2015?

And Trump said he was going to turn that around. Looks like Trump can't possibly deliver on all his glowing promises.

'Buy American; Hire American'

I guess that was all just baloney.

I feel sorry for anybody who ever believed in Trump.
 
God it must be exhausting defending and coming up with excuses and distractions for Donny everyday .... all day. :clink:

Gotta give it to you guys ... you're real Supporters ... all the way to the End. :thumbsup:
 
If I'm ready you correctly you don't think costs play a role in whether companies choose to stay in America or move production overseas?

The only role costs play is they don't want to pay minimum wage nor do they want to pay taxer.

The cheap sons of bitches only want to pay slave wages and no taxes......
 
God it must be exhausting defending and coming up with excuses and distractions for Donny everyday .... all day. :clink:

Gotta give it to you guys ... you're real Supporters ... all the way to the End. :thumbsup:

The world is more than Trump. It's not like free market supporters decided in 2017 that they like tax cuts. If you've followed politics prior to last year you would know it's been a central theme of the Republican Party since Reagan but for free market folks longer than that. So when you and the article you posted in the OP lie about tax cuts people will respond.
 
Yes it is but it resulted from cashing in on the tax cut. I guess you and I are reading the article differently.

Of course you are.

He's supporting the right wing corrupt business tax breaks and dump.

He has to twist his narrative to fit the lies from the racist right.
 
Hello cawacko,



And Trump said he was going to turn that around. Looks like Trump can't possibly deliver on all his glowing promises.

'Buy American; Hire American'

I guess that was all just baloney.

I feel sorry for anybody who ever believed in Trump.

I don't care about Trump. The lie is about tax cuts causing this plant to close
 
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