Hasan Piker

cawacko

Well-known member
A somewhat provocative headline but the article tells his story pretty well.

Anyone here a fan of his? I can't claim to follow him that closely but he has a very large following, especially among the young and progressive/socialist leaning crowd.



Online Agitator Hasan Piker Is Driving Democrats Up a Wall

The Twitch streamer has become an undeniable force in politics, elevating far-left and progressive candidates—and fighting with everyone else


In the run-up to Michigan’s heated Senate primary, Abdul El-Sayed hit the trail with a key surrogate: Hasan Piker.

The two took selfies with students in Ann Arbor and stopped by a pool party for content creators supporting El-Sayed in Detroit. In between, he popped over to Milwaukee to campaign for Democratic socialist Francesca Hong. On election night, Piker held court at El-Sayed’s watch party.

“Hasan is reaching folks no one else is talking to,” El-Sayed wrote in an email before voting started. “Every event I do, I get seniors who ask how I got so many young people to come, and young people who say ‘I saw you on Hasan.’”

One of the most controversial—and influential—online commentators, Piker has become famous for the impassioned left-wing appeals he makes to an audience of millions. He criticizes Israel and its supporters on hourslong livestreams, leading opponents to accuse him of antisemitism. He has said that America “deserved 9/11,” one of the remarks he said he could have phrased more carefully. He’s currently banned from entering the United Kingdom because his presence “may not be conducive to the public good”; a spokesperson for the Home Office declined to comment on the status of his travel authorization.

His broadsides take aim at both Republicans and Democrats in a brazen, provocative tone that now suffuses the leftist internet, and has drawn 35-year-old Piker into debates and attack ads during the primaries.

His name has become a political litmus test as Democrats fight over the party’s future. Democratic strategist James Carville and Sen. John Fetterman (D., Pa.) have threatened to leave the party over his rise (though Carville walked back his words). Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) have teamed up with him. When asked on a radio show about El-Sayed’s decision to campaign with Piker, his opponent Rep. Haley Stevens said, “I think that we should all be condemning some of the words of Hasan Piker.”

After El-Sayed’s primary victory, the National Republican Senatorial Committee released an ad that seized on Piker’s remarks and criticized El-Sayed for refusing to disavow them. Days later, El-Sayed called the 9/11 comment “dumb,” though he also characterized questions about the quote as “gotcha politics.”


In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Piker said he doesn’t think that his comments that led critics to accuse him of antisemitism—such as likening liberal Zionists to “liberal Nazis” and saying he would “vote for Hamas over Israel every time”—could cause harm, even at a time when hostility toward Jews is rising globally.

“There are people out there who speak about Jewish people from a very antisemitic perspective,” Piker said. “Some of them are on the right, as a matter of fact. And those people do not get the same level of scrutiny that I do.” He considers himself an anti-Zionist.

Despite the controversies, some progressive Democrats have embraced the streamer’s platform as part of their campaign strategy, betting on a brash antiestablishment coalition that has grown louder in President Trump’s second term. El-Sayed’s narrow victory over Stevens was a coup for the populist left. Hong’s loss in Wisconsin delivered a blow. Now comes the real question: Can the candidates backed by Piker go all the way?

“I don’t think that progressives have a harder time beating Republicans,” Piker said. “I think that logic is flawed. It’s just somewhat untested.”

With 3.1 million Twitch followers and millions more on X, Instagram and YouTube, Piker has become a stand-in for the existential threat facing the Democratic establishment. He appeals to populists whose views skew DSA: He advocates for a wealth tax for billionaires, rent control, a free Palestinian state and cuts to U.S. military spending in Israel.

On his livestream and on the campaign trail, he’s advocated for progressive and socialist candidates. Several have won, including New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani. But as the Democrats seek to regain control of both chambers of Congress, swing states like Michigan are considered must-wins. Conventional wisdom among establishment Democrats has held that moderate candidates are the party’s best shot at maintaining a blue stronghold. Many politicians and pundits have voiced doubts that El-Sayed can beat former Rep. Mike Rogers, a Republican with the backing of President Trump.

And then there’s 2028 on the horizon. Some in the party may still recall the 1972 contest of George McGovern and Richard Nixon; McGovern, an antiwar liberal, advocated for a form of universal basic income and easing restrictions on marijuana before losing in a Nixon landslide.


“The Democrats never have and never will nominate a leftist candidate,” Carville said in a phone interview. “So be very nice to people because you’re going to have to be nice to them in the general.”

Piker rejects that thinking.

“The ‘things are fine, we must pivot to the center’ mentality is exactly what caused the Democrats to lose to Trump twice,” he said. “The difference this time around is the voters are aware of it.”


On a morning in June, before the recent primaries, Piker was wearing a Denver Democratic Socialists of America hat and a T-shirt from the Palestinian Youth Movement, looking the part of progressive activist meets gym rat. Inside his West Hollywood home, which he bought for $2.7 million in 2021, his recording studio was stocked with soda and stacks of Zyn to power him through hours of talking straight to the camera. He’s been called the left’s answer to Joe Rogan and the manosphere (which he said he wants no part of).

Born in New Jersey and raised in Turkey, Piker grew up in an affluent family. Living in the Middle East while America was waging two wars close to home helped inform his political identity, he said. He was a self-described nerd, bullied for his interests, not a particularly diligent student, with a passion for drawing manga and playing videogames.


After graduating from Rutgers University, in 2018 he started livestreaming on Twitch—where subscriptions account for the majority of his revenue—while also working for the Young Turks, a left-wing news commentary site created by his uncle, Cenk Uygur, before going solo in 2020.

“I had an understanding of the world,” he said. “I had a vision, and I guess I was arrogant enough to assume that other people would want to hear it.”

Piker has courted critics practically since he got in front of the camera. After the death of South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, he called the politician “evil” and “bloodthirsty.”

In an April letter to the editor published in The Wall Street Journal, the Florida Republican Sen. Rick Scott called Piker “an America-hating, terrorist supporting lunatic.” “I stand by that,” Scott said in an email to The Journal. (The two do have a bit of history: Piker once suggested that people who cared about Medicare or Medicaid fraud “would kill Rick Scott,” referring to Scott’s tenure as the onetime leader of a hospital chain that later settled with the government to resolve Medicare-fraud allegations. Afterward, Twitch briefly suspended Piker’s account.)

“I’m rude,” Piker said matter-of-factly. “And I will sometimes bully bullies, right? But I would much rather be someone who’s not super well put-together, someone who doesn’t abide by civility, but is on the right side of history.”

While critics have tried to cast his controversiality as a political liability, some of the candidates elevated by Piker have notched wins. He disagrees with those who have called him a kingmaker for socialist politicians, but believes he’s on the crest of a new political wave, and the front lines of a new vision for the left.

“I’ve told the Democrats over and over again, you can’t podcast your way out of this problem,” he said. “You have to change your policies. You have to change your outlook.”


 
I am a Democrat and I got to say I never heard of the guy, then again, I never heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination

Not a twitter, Facebook, or social media guy, nor listen to any podcast, strictly a reader

So to add life to your thread, what are we looking at, eight or nine wins this year? They should start four and zip before Oregon visits, and you also have Ohio State at home, so what are you thinking?

And in his I’m guessing fourth or fifth year, if Riley doesn’t deliver a national playoff spot will the fans start mumbling change?
 
I am a Democrat and I got to say I never heard of the guy, then again, I never heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination

Not a twitter, Facebook, or social media guy, nor listen to any podcast, strictly a reader

So to add life to your thread, what are we looking at, eight or nine wins this year? They should start four and zip before Oregon visits, and you also have Ohio State at home, so what are you thinking?

And in his I’m guessing fourth or fifth year, if Riley doesn’t deliver a national playoff spot will the fans start mumbling change?
The demographic of this board is not his target audience, but when I read political articles in the SF Chronicle for instance his name has come up on more than a few occasions. He seems to be pretty influential.

Many are saying this is a make or break year for Riley. I hope it works for a couple of reasons. Obviously I want to win and if we do pull the plug he will be owed a large buyout and I can imagine plenty of players would leave.

We should make the playoff. Not win a national championship, but would we should make the playoff. I'll leave it at that.
 
I suspect that Anchovies' claims to have never read anything about Piker or Kirk (prior to his assassination) are not credible.
 
The demographic of this board is not his target audience, but when I read political articles in the SF Chronicle for instance his name has come up on more than a few occasions. He seems to be pretty influential.

Many are saying this is a make or break year for Riley. I hope it works for a couple of reasons. Obviously I want to win and if we do pull the plug he will be owed a large buyout and I can imagine plenty of players would leave.

We should make the playoff. Not win a national championship, but would we should make the playoff. I'll leave it at that.
I wouldn’t leave at that, with twelve spots in the championship, probably only six open after league winners and ND, eight wins is not going to earn a playoff spot

I commented a few years ago, and not being a USC hater, just stating what I think are the facts, that the odds are extremely high for a private school outside of ND to win a championship. USC, being private, doesn’t have the bucks nor priority unless they have a billionaire sugar daddy like Miami, and I wouldn’t compare USC’s integrity with Miami’s
 
I wouldn’t leave at that, with twelve spots in the championship, probably only six open after league winners and ND, eight wins is not going to earn a playoff spot

I commented a few years ago, and not being a USC hater, just stating what I think are the facts, that the odds are extremely high for a private school outside of ND to win a championship. USC, being private, doesn’t have the bucks nor priority unless they have a billionaire sugar daddy like Miami, and I wouldn’t compare USC’s integrity with Miami’s
I guess I don't follow your argument. Are you suggesting that schools like USC and SMU can't compete economically with a school like Alabama in N.I.L.?

Look at the amount of money SMU raised to join the ACC. They are huge players in the N.I.L. game, as is USC.

Riley is one of the top 3 or 4 highest paid coaches in the country. We just opened our new $225m performance center on campus for athletes. Our N.I.L game is highly competitive.

So our issues aren't about being a private school.
 
I guess I don't follow your argument. Are you suggesting that schools like USC and SMU can't compete economically with a school like Alabama in N.I.L.?

Look at the amount of money SMU raised to join the ACC. They are huge players in the N.I.L. game, as is USC.

Riley is one of the top 3 or 4 highest paid coaches in the country. We just opened our new $225m performance center on campus for athletes. Our N.I.L game is highly competitive.

So our issues aren't about being a private school.
You comparing the integrity of USC with that of SMU? Hypothetically, if both schools found their Miami billionaire sugar daddy would USC ask for a needed say Science Library or solely put the money into a football program? I’d wager SMU wouldn’t give it a second thought

Besides, the perennial top teams have State funding, they don’t have to balance finances like a private school does annually

And, SMU may make the playoffs via the ACC, which is full of competing private schools, but it will ever win a national championship
 
A somewhat provocative headline but the article tells his story pretty well.

Anyone here a fan of his? I can't claim to follow him that closely but he has a very large following, especially among the young and progressive/socialist leaning crowd.



Online Agitator Hasan Piker Is Driving Democrats Up a Wall

The Twitch streamer has become an undeniable force in politics, elevating far-left and progressive candidates—and fighting with everyone else


In the run-up to Michigan’s heated Senate primary, Abdul El-Sayed hit the trail with a key surrogate: Hasan Piker.

The two took selfies with students in Ann Arbor and stopped by a pool party for content creators supporting El-Sayed in Detroit. In between, he popped over to Milwaukee to campaign for Democratic socialist Francesca Hong. On election night, Piker held court at El-Sayed’s watch party.

“Hasan is reaching folks no one else is talking to,” El-Sayed wrote in an email before voting started. “Every event I do, I get seniors who ask how I got so many young people to come, and young people who say ‘I saw you on Hasan.’”

One of the most controversial—and influential—online commentators, Piker has become famous for the impassioned left-wing appeals he makes to an audience of millions. He criticizes Israel and its supporters on hourslong livestreams, leading opponents to accuse him of antisemitism. He has said that America “deserved 9/11,” one of the remarks he said he could have phrased more carefully. He’s currently banned from entering the United Kingdom because his presence “may not be conducive to the public good”; a spokesperson for the Home Office declined to comment on the status of his travel authorization.

His broadsides take aim at both Republicans and Democrats in a brazen, provocative tone that now suffuses the leftist internet, and has drawn 35-year-old Piker into debates and attack ads during the primaries.

His name has become a political litmus test as Democrats fight over the party’s future. Democratic strategist James Carville and Sen. John Fetterman (D., Pa.) have threatened to leave the party over his rise (though Carville walked back his words). Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) have teamed up with him. When asked on a radio show about El-Sayed’s decision to campaign with Piker, his opponent Rep. Haley Stevens said, “I think that we should all be condemning some of the words of Hasan Piker.”

After El-Sayed’s primary victory, the National Republican Senatorial Committee released an ad that seized on Piker’s remarks and criticized El-Sayed for refusing to disavow them. Days later, El-Sayed called the 9/11 comment “dumb,” though he also characterized questions about the quote as “gotcha politics.”


In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Piker said he doesn’t think that his comments that led critics to accuse him of antisemitism—such as likening liberal Zionists to “liberal Nazis” and saying he would “vote for Hamas over Israel every time”—could cause harm, even at a time when hostility toward Jews is rising globally.

“There are people out there who speak about Jewish people from a very antisemitic perspective,” Piker said. “Some of them are on the right, as a matter of fact. And those people do not get the same level of scrutiny that I do.” He considers himself an anti-Zionist.

Despite the controversies, some progressive Democrats have embraced the streamer’s platform as part of their campaign strategy, betting on a brash antiestablishment coalition that has grown louder in President Trump’s second term. El-Sayed’s narrow victory over Stevens was a coup for the populist left. Hong’s loss in Wisconsin delivered a blow. Now comes the real question: Can the candidates backed by Piker go all the way?

“I don’t think that progressives have a harder time beating Republicans,” Piker said. “I think that logic is flawed. It’s just somewhat untested.”

With 3.1 million Twitch followers and millions more on X, Instagram and YouTube, Piker has become a stand-in for the existential threat facing the Democratic establishment. He appeals to populists whose views skew DSA: He advocates for a wealth tax for billionaires, rent control, a free Palestinian state and cuts to U.S. military spending in Israel.

On his livestream and on the campaign trail, he’s advocated for progressive and socialist candidates. Several have won, including New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani. But as the Democrats seek to regain control of both chambers of Congress, swing states like Michigan are considered must-wins. Conventional wisdom among establishment Democrats has held that moderate candidates are the party’s best shot at maintaining a blue stronghold. Many politicians and pundits have voiced doubts that El-Sayed can beat former Rep. Mike Rogers, a Republican with the backing of President Trump.

And then there’s 2028 on the horizon. Some in the party may still recall the 1972 contest of George McGovern and Richard Nixon; McGovern, an antiwar liberal, advocated for a form of universal basic income and easing restrictions on marijuana before losing in a Nixon landslide.


“The Democrats never have and never will nominate a leftist candidate,” Carville said in a phone interview. “So be very nice to people because you’re going to have to be nice to them in the general.”

Piker rejects that thinking.

“The ‘things are fine, we must pivot to the center’ mentality is exactly what caused the Democrats to lose to Trump twice,” he said. “The difference this time around is the voters are aware of it.”


On a morning in June, before the recent primaries, Piker was wearing a Denver Democratic Socialists of America hat and a T-shirt from the Palestinian Youth Movement, looking the part of progressive activist meets gym rat. Inside his West Hollywood home, which he bought for $2.7 million in 2021, his recording studio was stocked with soda and stacks of Zyn to power him through hours of talking straight to the camera. He’s been called the left’s answer to Joe Rogan and the manosphere (which he said he wants no part of).

Born in New Jersey and raised in Turkey, Piker grew up in an affluent family. Living in the Middle East while America was waging two wars close to home helped inform his political identity, he said. He was a self-described nerd, bullied for his interests, not a particularly diligent student, with a passion for drawing manga and playing videogames.


After graduating from Rutgers University, in 2018 he started livestreaming on Twitch—where subscriptions account for the majority of his revenue—while also working for the Young Turks, a left-wing news commentary site created by his uncle, Cenk Uygur, before going solo in 2020.

“I had an understanding of the world,” he said. “I had a vision, and I guess I was arrogant enough to assume that other people would want to hear it.”

Piker has courted critics practically since he got in front of the camera. After the death of South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, he called the politician “evil” and “bloodthirsty.”

In an April letter to the editor published in The Wall Street Journal, the Florida Republican Sen. Rick Scott called Piker “an America-hating, terrorist supporting lunatic.” “I stand by that,” Scott said in an email to The Journal. (The two do have a bit of history: Piker once suggested that people who cared about Medicare or Medicaid fraud “would kill Rick Scott,” referring to Scott’s tenure as the onetime leader of a hospital chain that later settled with the government to resolve Medicare-fraud allegations. Afterward, Twitch briefly suspended Piker’s account.)

“I’m rude,” Piker said matter-of-factly. “And I will sometimes bully bullies, right? But I would much rather be someone who’s not super well put-together, someone who doesn’t abide by civility, but is on the right side of history.”

While critics have tried to cast his controversiality as a political liability, some of the candidates elevated by Piker have notched wins. He disagrees with those who have called him a kingmaker for socialist politicians, but believes he’s on the crest of a new political wave, and the front lines of a new vision for the left.

“I’ve told the Democrats over and over again, you can’t podcast your way out of this problem,” he said. “You have to change your policies. You have to change your outlook.”



I would liken him to the Charlie Kirk of the left.

His ideas are routed in the populism that exists on the far left but he has often resorted to demonizing the 'others' to attract and rile up an audience, just as was Kirk's bread and butter.
 
I would liken him to the Charlie Kirk of the left.

His ideas are routed in the populism that exists on the far left but he has often resorted to demonizing the 'others' to attract and rile up an audience, just as was Kirk's bread and butter.
I've actually never even really seen clips of him, but have read some of his more provocative statements.

What I pick up reading our local paper is some of our politicians like to be associated with him for the support he brings, but walk a fine line with getting associated with some of his statements.

He certainly wouldn't be the first to fit that description.
 
I've actually never even really seen clips of him, but have read some of his more provocative statements.

What I pick up reading our local paper is some of our politicians like to be associated with him for the support he brings, but walk a fine line with getting associated with some of his statements.

He certainly wouldn't be the first to fit that description.
Same reason Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes were embraced by the more main stream right while holding their noses. These elections are increasingly reliant on turning out low turn out voters
 
You comparing the integrity of USC with that of SMU? Hypothetically, if both schools found their Miami billionaire sugar daddy would USC ask for a needed say Science Library or solely put the money into a football program? I’d wager SMU wouldn’t give it a second thought

Besides, the perennial top teams have State funding, they don’t have to balance finances like a private school does annually

And, SMU may make the playoffs via the ACC, which is full of competing private schools, but it will ever win a national championship
If I'm understanding you correctly I almost get the feeling you are saying USC is above trying to win in football.

A couple of things here. Big athletics donors don't say "here USC, I'm giving you X amount of dollars and do with it as you please whether that's for N.I.L. or a new science library. Your choice". It doesn't work that way.

And public universities don't draw on state money to fund their N.I.L. programs. So it's not USC donors vs. a state's school legislature in terms of who gives the school more money.

I already shared with you a sample of how much USC is putting into the program...
 
Same reason Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes were embraced by the more main stream right while holding their noses. These elections are increasingly reliant on turning out low turn out voters
Have you listened to him? What's your take? Good ideas while being a little provocative? Or is he about drawing attention to himself?
 
Have you listened to him? What's your take? Good ideas while being a little provocative? Or is he about drawing attention to himself?
A few times.

He is on the farthest progressive left tilting towards actual socialism, compared to centrist democrat. He will use demonizing language in the same way Charlie Kirk would of the 'other'.
 
A few times.

He is on the farthest progressive left tilting towards actual socialism, compared to centrist democrat. He will use demonizing language in the same way Charlie Kirk would of the 'other'.
From a political perspective do you think he's an overall positive to Democrats in terms of engaging people who maybe feel alienated otherwise? (i.e. bringing more votes to the party).

Or is what that comes with not worth it?
 
From a political perspective do you think he's an overall positive to Democrats in terms of engaging people who maybe feel alienated otherwise? (i.e. bringing more votes to the party).

Or is what that comes with not worth it?
I think he can be weaponized to use against corporate dems and independents which could cost Dems more votes than they get from his fringe. I think the Dems are far more susceptible to that.
 
If I'm understanding you correctly I almost get the feeling you are saying USC is above trying to win in football.

A couple of things here. Big athletics donors don't say "here USC, I'm giving you X amount of dollars and do with it as you please whether that's for N.I.L. or a new science library. Your choice". It doesn't work that way.

And public universities don't draw on state money to fund their N.I.L. programs. So it's not USC donors vs. a state's school legislature in terms of who gives the school more money.

I already shared with you a sample of how much USC is putting into the program...
Not at all, just that USC, or most private schools, have other priorities than winning a national football championship. Where an SMU might focus on finding a NIL sugar daddy, a USC is going to spend equal time seeking a Science Library donor

Tney don’t, but they do have the State funding to keep the lights and meet payroll where a USC doesn’t

I don’t know why it is so hard for you to recognize the reality of college football. USC isn’t the only private school to spend on college football, but how many have won a national championship since the playoffs started, one, USC, over two decades ago and tney had to forfeit it
 
I think Hasan Piker, as a phenomenon, shows that there is a huge rift in the "intuition" of American society.

There is no socialism or communism in the United States, yet Americans fiercely oppose both. I know readers might try to distinguish between socialism and communism here. But frankly, give up that attempt. When Americans try to talk about socialism, what comes to mind is 1984, the Soviet Union, or something along those lines.

The question is, how much does that actually mean for American society? It's like someone is starving to death, you give them some noodles, and the opponent says, no, this food will raise blood sugar too quickly, cause insulin resistance, and eventually give you diabetes.

Could it be that something is wrong with American common sense?

As a Chinese person, I have seen the criticisms of Hasan—for example, that he wears MAO-style clothing, as if that is some huge sin. Americans describe MAO as a butcher who caused 48 million deaths. But that simply does not match the actual situation. This is the problem: Americans conjure up a terrifying image of socialism, and then use it to oppose any policy that might hurt the interests of billionaires.

In my view, this is a hangover from the Cold War. America's ideology helped it win the Cold War, but the cost is that Americans live in a great illusion. If people cannot correctly understand reality, then of course they cannot correctly solve real problems.
 
I don't think it makes sense to distinguish between different factions on the American political spectrum like a scholar, because that kind of analysis is really only useful for electoral calculations. The real issue now is that people lack common sense.

For example, yesterday I saw an article on AP News about the U.S. moving an aircraft carrier originally deployed in East Asia out of the region. In the comments, almost everyone was criticizing it as a bad move, saying it would embolden China, and so on. But in reality, anyone who truly understands international relations knows that there will be no war over Taiwan for at least two or three years. Specifically for 2026, this is a year when U.S.-China relations are seeing significant repair. Barring any surprises, there will be an official visit to the U.S. in September, and more meetings between the two leaders at the APEC summit later this year. As long as you have some basic knowledge of international relations, you wouldn't think that carrier's departure would cause any problems. And frankly, if something did happen, one carrier alone wouldn't be much of a deterrent anyway.

My view is that common sense matters a lot, and Americans are gradually losing it. Younger people are more inclined to support Hasan because, simply put, he feels more intuitive. For instance—and I'm sorry to use China as an example again—if you describe China as some kind of 1984-style country, then when someone actually goes there and sees that Chinese people are just going to work, going to school, coming home to play games on Steam or scroll through TikTok, then of course your narrative, which completely contradicts reality, falls apart. Those young people, because they are still young, haven't been brainwashed yet. Naturally, they will support someone who breaks that illusion for them, like Hasan.
 
Not at all, just that USC, or most private schools, have other priorities than winning a national football championship. Where an SMU might focus on finding a NIL sugar daddy, a USC is going to spend equal time seeking a Science Library donor

Tney don’t, but they do have the State funding to keep the lights and meet payroll where a USC doesn’t

I don’t know why it is so hard for you to recognize the reality of college football. USC isn’t the only private school to spend on college football, but how many have won a national championship since the playoffs started, one, USC, over two decades ago and tney had to forfeit it
I feel like there is a disconnect in the understanding of how fundraising works for Universities. There's not one person in charge for the University who raises all capital then determines how it will be allocated.

The athletic department and N.I.L. groups aren't calling donors asking if they want to donate to a science library. Football is a very big part of the USC undergrad experience. It's at the heart of the Trojan Family. There are plenty of people like me, graduates who are passionate about football, but they have money and are willing to donate. I know some of them.

That doesn't mean football trumps everything else at the University, but it's a huge part of the experience. Thus the large sums currently being spent on the program. That's what you're missing.
 
Not at all, just that USC, or most private schools, have other priorities than winning a national football championship. Where an SMU might focus on finding a NIL sugar daddy, a USC is going to spend equal time seeking a Science Library donor

Tney don’t, but they do have the State funding to keep the lights and meet payroll where a USC doesn’t

I don’t know why it is so hard for you to recognize the reality of college football. USC isn’t the only private school to spend on college football, but how many have won a national championship since the playoffs started, one, USC, over two decades ago and tney had to forfeit it

USC Trojans​

Big price tag: Jayden Maiava, QB
The Trojans have revved up their spending in recent seasons, with their No. 1 high school recruiting class in 2026 being among the most expensive in history. Said one Power Four GM of the Trojans: "Their 2026 class cost as much as our entire roster."

The high price of the incoming recruiting class is what pushes USC into the upper-crust of expensive rosters. Quarterback Jayden Maiava is probably the highest-paid player on the roster, but sources believe he's on a team-friendly deal.

USC did made expensive swings in the portal, bringing in high-priced additions like NC State wide receiver Terrell Anderson and Iowa State cornerback Jontez Williams. If USC isn't at the $40 million mark -- some Big Ten sources believe it is -- it is just below it in the high $30s.



A girl I went to 'SC with (she was the lead girl in Skilo's 'I Wish' video from the '90's if you remember that song) and am still friends with, her son is part of the top ranked freshman recruiting class. 'SC isn't playing around with the money we're spending.
 
Back
Top