I don't get the whole voting by mail thing by most.......

. Voting by mail is a better vote.
It is NOT. Imagine placing a bet on a football game weeks ahead of time and then finding out the day of the game that the Starting QB and R.B both got hurt and won't be playing.
 
But you admit Trump is a fat lazy slob who lies when he says he is against Mail in voting while being one of the biggest supporters of it, via his lifelong use, right?
Surely you must admit that it is much harder and far more costly for someone like a Trump to vote in person,....right? The security detail alone is mega dollars.
 
Explain why after years and decades of investigations, no evidence of massive fraud that could change election outcomes have been found.

Pretty simple - you're lying.

Fraud has been uncovered on a massive scale over the past two years.

Notice how the hive now programs you couch your claim that fraud doesn't change outcomes, rather than there is no fraud? That's because fraud is proven and pervasive.

Elections often are won or lost by razor thin margins. The hive and you drones swarm to protect election fraud because you know this well.
 
Voter I.D...........WHY does literally 80% of the public agree with it? WHY? Don't you Democrats agree with DEMOCRACY? I don't believe so,...I think you do ONLY when you believe it will favor YOU.
 
Two recent high-profile investigation started by Republicans looking at Trump's claims of voter fraud concluded by finding no issues. The federal inquiry into Nevada's voter rolls, and the audit conducted in Michigan. [1, 2]


1. The 2026 Nevada Noncitizen Voter Rolls Inquiry (Federal/State Disagreement)
In late 2026, the Trump administration and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced a major investigation alleging that nearly 16,000 noncitizens were registered to vote in Nevada. [1, 2]
  • The Investigation: When Nevada election officials pressed for evidence, DHS scaled the number of high-confidence suspects down to 185 names. [1, 2]
  • The Finding: Nevada state authorities manually investigated all 185 records against state data and confirmed that every single individual was a lawful U.S. citizen, reducing the final count of ineligible voters to zero. State election officials subsequently issued a formal rebuke to the federal government regarding the flawed data. [1, 2, 3]

2. The Michigan Senate Oversight Committee Report (Republican-Led State Audit)[1]
  • The Investigation: Following intense political pressure surrounding the 2020 election, the GOP-led Michigan Senate Oversight Committee launched a massive, months-long review of the state's election integrity. [1]
  • The Finding: The committee published a detailed report concluding there was no evidence of widespread or systematic fraud. They explicitly affirmed the security of the election, found that alleged machine glitches were simple human errors, and even recommended that the attorney general investigate individuals who had been intentionally spreading false fraud claims for personal financial gain. [1]
 
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Surely you must admit that it is much harder and far more costly for someone like a Trump to vote in person,....right? The security detail alone is mega dollars.
No i do not admit that as Trump has always been known to vote by mail long before he was POTUS.

And we have seen many POTUS show up at a poll to vote in person as part of their feeling it was a civic duty and also good publicity for them to do so.

Trump is just fat and lazy and actually supports vote by mail very directly. Pay attention to what people do and not what they say Stone and you will be much better off.
 
It wont. 80% of the Voting public WANTS voter I.D, at minimum,....many favor shit canning mass mailing of ballots and drop boxes.
We have voter ID. When you registered to vote, you had tio show ID. Then, if it looked valid, the registration was sent to the election commission for approval. They approve or reject it. If approved, you are assigned a precinct to vote in. Your name and signature are entered into the precinct log book, Note, if your name is not there, your vote is rejected. That means sending a pile of ballots to a precinct does not work.
 
We have voter ID. When you registered to vote, you had tio show ID. Then, if it looked valid, the registration was sent to the election commission for approval. They approve or reject it. If approved, you are assigned a precinct to vote in. Your name and signature are entered into the precinct log book, Note, if your name is not there, your vote is rejected. That means sending a pile of ballots to a precinct does not work.
You know what I mean,...stop playing games. Voter ID that is shown every time you check in to vote. 80 % of the public WANTS IT.
 
If you are crippled, sick, ancient,....that's one thing. But if you are remotely healthy I just don't see the big draw in voting by mail. Way too slothelike and lazy for me. For my wife and I voting is pretty much an event for us. A Patriotic duty that we consider an honor to be part of. We both get dressed up and go together to our local polling place. We stand in line,...chit chat with others, get our I VOTED stickers and do our duty. THATS AMERICA. THATS VOTING. Not mailing in some damn envelope so you don't have to get off you're ass once every TWO YEARS. How LAZY can you be! Pathetic !
for cheating.
 
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All voting in person despite having SS issues around their voting.
Never said there were ISSUES,...I said there were costs involved. And wasn't just talking politicians,...just famous people in general.
 
Except its NOT what we have been doing right along. Not even close. Voting by mail has changed dramatically over the years. It went from exceptions being made for illness, hospitalization, away on business or vacation, the Military to what we have now where the ballots are just massed mailed out. To say nothing of the fact that in the not too distant past you had to actually REQUEST the ballot and you better have a valid excuse.
Stone, if Trump were a man and take his defeat like one...all this voting bullshit would never have happened.

As it is, by the way, the conservatives have a significant advantage given by the constitutional way federal elections are decided...particularly the presidential spot.

YOUR side has the advantage...and you essentially want more. Trump is encouraging things that depart from every norm we;ve established...and you people continue to howl against mail-in voting.

Get over it.
 
Stone, if Trump were a man and take his defeat like one...all this voting bullshit would never have happened.

As it is, by the way, the conservatives have a significant advantage given by the constitutional way federal elections are decided...particularly the presidential spot.

YOUR side has the advantage...and you essentially want more. Trump is encouraging things that depart from every norm we;ve established...and you people continue to howl against mail-in voting.

Get over it.
some norms sucks. like normie Ross Dolan.
 
Never said there were ISSUES,...I said there were costs involved. And wasn't just talking politicians,...just famous people in general.
Poor famous people. Such hardship... we need to give them exemption so they can vote by mail as they already have it so tough... :rofl2:
 
80% want voter I.D. Face it,...we WILL get what we want.
That is not the issue.

The issue is the Trump admin games.

It is the States who decide how elections are administers and not the Federal gov't and yet the Trump admin is trying to dictate that things like a Hunting License are valid voting ID while a State University ID is not.

The Trump admin is not even saying 'here are the safety and verification steps we want in any accepted Voter ID' and then letting the States incorporate that and use it. NO. They are saying State University, Indigenous reserve ID and other types should be excluded regardless and that is because for magats it is NOT about ID and is about exclusion.
 
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