I keep hearing, there is nothing to investigate:

Superfreak said:
Mueller shut down the investigation Garud. You simply don't like the results.
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You are ignorant.

This is simply untrue. Mueller did his job, reported the facts and now Congress needs to do its oversight. I am not saying impeach, I am saying they are within their rights to issue the subpoena's they have issued.
 
Stretch said:
Sorry. Typo. A AG, not SP.
It's up to SP to simply turn over his report to the AG...which he did without recommendations on the obstruction charge.
He DID however report that there was nothing to the Trump/Russia hoax.
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You have clearly not read the Mueller report, he did nothing of the sort.
 
Phantasmal said:
[h=2]Origins[/h][FONT="]The constitutional framers assumed that Congress would conduct investigations as the British House of Commons conducted them. [URL="https://history.house.gov/People/Detail/23919?ret=True"]James Wilson[/URL] of Pennsylvania, a future Supreme Court Justice and Convention delegate, wrote in a 1774 essay that members of the Commons were considered “grand inquisitors of the realm. The proudest ministers of the proudest monarchs have trembled at their censures; and have appeared at the bar of the house, to give an account of their conduct, and ask pardon for their faults.” When the U.S. House convened in 1789, it established an early set of select committees, such as Rules and Ways and Means, to structure the legislative process including investigations.

https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Investigations-Oversight/[/FONT]
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Superfreak said:
Wrong. Their powers relate to legislative issues. They do not get to dig through a DoJ database hoping to find something they can use politically.

Mueller investigated. Provided them his report. They are not even entitled to that.

They cannot just issue subpoenas because they feel like it.
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They are not issuing subpoenas because they feel like it, they are issuing subpoenas because they have a basis, see the first post on this thread.
 
Jarod said:
There was no outcome by Mueller, silly. It is a report, Now its Congress's job to use that report to do their oversight job.
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Garud, stop lying. They certainly have a right to try to impeach. But no, they do not have a right to the underlying data that was collected. They do not have a right to even the report. Yet they got almost all of it.
 
Jarod said:
You have clearly not read the Mueller report, he did nothing of the sort.
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lets follow your interpretation of what Mueller found.

he found evidence to indict Flynn, Manafort, Cohen, and a few others, and he provided the evidence, pressed charges and secured the indictments.
BUT
he decided NOT to indict Trump, or press charges and secure the indictment.
Because he instead wanted congress to do it in Trumps case?

you really wonder why we laugh at you?
 
dukkha said:
If I say "kill my wife" to someone do you think i could get charged?? WTF is wrong with you?

I have to provide money / or engage in a conspiracy. something more then an outburst
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No, but if you say it to someone under your employ who you pay... yes you would likely get charged.

Trump is known for firing people who do not carry out his orders.
 
come on nut**bags, don't leave us hanging.

Why would Mueller investigate and bring charges and convict Flynn, Cohen, and MAnafort, but not Trump?
 
Jarod said:
I keep hearing, there is nothing to investigate:

1. Trump asked the FBI director to stop investigating Michael Flynn, who had been his campaign adviser and national security adviser, and who had already committed a crime by lying to the FBI. That should be investigated.

2. After AG Sessions recused himself from the Russian investigation on the advice of DoJ ethics lawyers, Trump directly asked Sessions to reverse his recusal so that he could retain control over the investigation and help the president. That should be investigated.

3. Trump directed the White House counsel, Don McGahn, to have Special Counsel Mueller removed on the basis of pretextual conflicts of interest that Trump’s advisers had already told him were “ridiculous” and could not justify removing the special counsel. That should be investigated.

4. When that event was publicly reported, Trump asked that McGahn make a public statement and create a false internal record stating that Trump had not asked him to fire the special counsel, and suggested that McGahn would be fired if he did not comply. That should be investigated.

5. Trump asked Corey Lewandowski, his former campaign manager, to tell AG Sessions to limit the special counsel’s investigation only to future election interference. Trump said Lewandowski should tell Sessions he was fired if he would not meet with him. That should be investigated.

These events need to be hashed out, Trump is invoking executive privilege to prevent the background information from being shared with Congress, so their own investigation is necessary.

These are very likely impeachable offences that Congress MUST INVESTIGATE.
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1. Flynn forgot the exact details of a perfectly legal conversation. Wow. ENTRAPMENT. The Witch Hunt withheld exculpatory evidence.

2. The AG works for the POTUS. Please cite any "crime" involved.

3. Bullshit. Not what he said at all. Makeup whatever nonsense you need to pretend happened.

4. The President is NOT REQUIRED to KOWTOW to the New York Slimes. More NONSENSE.

5. TOTAL LIE. Sessions had NOTHING TO DO with the Special Counsel. MORE MADEUP BULLSHIT.


You made a GREAT CASE FOR "THERE IS NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE"...


GREAT WORK!!
 
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