“I’ll Never Question 1938 in Germany Again”


National "Socialist" Program

One read of the National Socialist Program and it’s pretty easy to see that they were Socialists.

Hitler was all about BIG GOVERNMENT. Is that a conservative idea? No. Conservatives want smaller, limited government. Nazis want BIG GOVERNMENT. So do Leftists.

Conservatives don’t want welfare. Nazis did. Leftists do.

Conservatives don’t want government programs. Nazis did. Leftists do.

Conservatives don’t want government taking over industry. Nazis did and Leftists do.

Nazis wanted to build a Utopia. The Left is obsessed with Utopianism. Conservatives are not.
 
The Nazis Were Leftists, Deal With It

Currently Accepted Political Definitions Place the Nazis firmly on the Left

The right consists of free-market capitalists, who think the individual is the primary political unit, believes in property rights, and is generally distrustful of the administrative state and government solutions to social problems. They view family and civil institutions such as church as needed checks on state power. These people don’t think government should force a business to provide employee birth control or think law should coerce bakers to make cakes against their conscience. They think the solution to bad speech is more speech; the solution to gun violence is more guns. These people talk about “freedom” — the method individual decisions. (The counterexample might be gay marriage but that is a positive right (give me something) instead of a negative right (leave me alone)).


The left believes the opposite. These people are distrustful of the excesses and inequality capitalism produces. They give primacy to group rights and identity. They believe factors like race, ethnicity, and gender compose the primary political units. They don’t believe in strong property rights. They believe it is the government’s responsibility to solve social problems. They call for public intervention to “equalize” disparities and render our social fabric more inclusive (as they define it). They believe the free market has failed to solve issues like campaign finance, income inequality, minimum wage, access to healthcare, and righting past injustices. These people talk about “democracy” — the method of collective decisions.


By these definitions the Nazis were firmly on the left. National Socialism was a collectivist authoritarian movement run by “social justice warriors.” That this brand of “justice” benefited only some based on immutable characteristics perfectly aligns with the modern brand. The Nazi ideal embraced identity politics based on the primacy of the people or “volk” and invoked state-based solutions for every possible problem. It was nation-based socialism — the nation being especially important to those who bled in the Great War.


Evidence the Nazis were leftists goes well beyond the views of one scholar. Philosophically, Nazi doctrine fit well with the other strains of socialism ripping through the Europe at the time. Hitler’s first “National Workers Party” meeting while still an Army corporal featured the speech “How and by What Means is Capitalism to be Eliminated?”

https://medium.com/@PaulHJossey/the-nazis-were-leftists-deal-with-it-b7f12cc53b6f

A long narrative full of erroneous generalizations with even worse “conclusions,” now Hitler, who murdered even millions of his fellow Germans, favored gas chambers and firing squads, was a “social justice warrior,” beautiful
 
Wait a minute, now a monarchy is socialist? Certainly not the way Hobbs thought of it

You definitely got to turn off the radio and get out there more “chiwawa,” a lot more

Monarchy is just the modern word for Socialism. Where the gov't (the king and the political aristocracy) owns everything and everyone. The NK Socialist Kim dynasty looks exactly like a monarchy, and it's the pinnacle of the Leftwing. :dunno:
 
Nazis were on the left of ideological spectrum. To say otherwise is to deny the underlying foundations of what left vs. right even mean. The right is focused on the limited role of government while the left is for increased government control and function. This very definition leaves it impossible to argue that Nazis - socialists government control, were on the right.
 
Nazis were on the left of ideological spectrum. To say otherwise is to deny the underlying foundations of what left vs. right even mean. The right is focused on the limited role of government while the left is for increased government control and function. This very definition leaves it impossible to argue that Nazis - socialists government control, were on the right.

you flunked history in high school
 
Neither. I'm historically accurate. Hitler was on the Left. I know, Leftists hate that given almost every other dictator, despot, mass murderer, and evil political leader has been a Leftist, but you're stuck with Hitler too.

Hitler didn’t lean left, I already gave you several examples, are you going to tell us next the Brown Shorts were disciples of Voltaire
 
Was Hitler for big government?

Yes or No

Really?

Your man Trump is one of the biggest advocates of big Government, he has increased the power of the Executive with the full support of the GOP, now does that make him whatever you are trying to say someone else is
 
Trump was elected because the Democrats refused to nominate Sanders. Bad, bad move. Now they've done it again.

Horse shit.

Old BS was unelectable and never should have tried to hijack the Democratic Party and its election apparatus to begin with.

If you want to hold anyone on the left accountable for Trump's electoral win, talk to your fellow butthurt Bernie babies who refused to follow their master's orders and vote for HRC like he told you all to, and the blacks who apparently can't bring themselves to come out in full force unless the candidate is also black.
 
Hitler didn’t lean left, I already gave you several examples, are you going to tell us next the Brown Shorts were disciples of Voltaire

Zero examples. Zero evidence that Hitler was libertarian conservative.

Hitler had obamacare, dipshit. :palm:
 
To the contrary- it was Billary who was unelectable. I have the proof. Where's yours ?

You don't have shit.

Well, you apparently still have some leftover Bernie Bullshit, but that's the equivalent of nothing.
 
You don't have shit.

You're making yourself look silly. Billary lost. Case proven . She was unelectable. She was so unelectable that the country preferred the Mango Moron. You don't have a come-back so don't bother.
 
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