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christiefan915 said:
Somebody has tried to examine both the good and bad parts of our history, Howard Zinn in his book A People's History of the United States. "The book depicts the struggles of Native Americans against European and U.S. conquest and expansion, slaves against slavery, unionists and other workers against capitalists, women against patriarchy, and African-Americans for civil rights."

Guess who hates his perspective?
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I have to point out, to be truthful, that most of us on the right don’t dislike Howard Zinn’s American History book because it “examines both the good and bad parts of our history,” but because he highlights the bad with subtleties made (some not so subtle) toward legitimizing and/or promoting socialism. He believed in socialism.

I don’t. Therefore I have and will oppose using his work to indoctrinate our youth. One can and should teach the truth without promoting an ideology. There are literary works and there are great teachers who do that every day.

Just wanted to clarify the “why” that many of us on the right don’t like that particular work. I fully support works that paint this country as it is, warts and all, but not those that would in any way promote socialism of the type that many want. There is a reason this guy was/is such a champion of the “left wing of the Democratic Party.”

Disclaimer: If I screwed up this post it’s because I’m trying to type it while watching the Friends reunion.
 
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The Rosewood massacre

a racially motivated massacre of black people and destruction of a black town that took place during the first week of January 1923 in rural Levy County, Florida. At least six black people and two white people were killed, though eyewitness accounts suggested a higher death toll of 27 to 150. The town of Rosewood was destroyed in what contemporary news reports characterized as a race riot. Florida had an especially high number of lynchings of black men in the years before the massacre, including a well-publicized incident in December 1922.

Before the massacre, the town of Rosewood had been a quiet, primarily black, self-sufficient whistle stop on the Seaboard Air Line Railway. Trouble began when white men from several nearby towns lynched a black Rosewood resident because of accusations that a white woman in nearby Sumner had been assaulted by a black drifter. A mob of several hundred whites combed the countryside hunting for black people and burned almost every structure in Rosewood. Survivors from the town hid for several days in nearby swamps until they were evacuated by train and car to larger towns. No arrests were made for what happened in Rosewood. The town was abandoned by its former black and white residents; none ever moved back, none were ever compensated for their land, and the town ceased to exist.
 
evince said:
Fuck off you turd brained racist


The world hates you fucking racist more than anyone


Even you racists shits hate racists


It’s why you freak out like banshees when you get called what you are


How fucking stupid do you have to be to embrace a mindset that makes the whole world hate you (even your selves)



As stupid as stupid gets
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Again


To remind you racists what you will reap
 
leaningright said:
I have to point out, to be truthful, that most of us on the right don’t dislike Howard Zinn’s American History book because it “examines both the good and bad parts of our history,” but because he highlights the bad with subtleties made (some not so subtle) toward legitimizing and/or promoting socialism. He believed in socialism.

I don’t. Therefore I have and will oppose using his work to indoctrinate our youth. One can and should teach the truth without promoting an ideology. There are literary works and there are great teachers who do that every day.

Just wanted to clarify the “why” that many of us on the right don’t like that particular work. I fully support works that paint this country as it is, warts and all, but not those that would in any way promote socialism of the type that many want. There is a reason this guy was/is such a champion of the “left wing of the Democratic Party.”

Disclaimer: If I screwed up this post it’s because I’m trying to type it while watching the Friends reunion.
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DEAR FUCKING IDIOT



You racists buried this history because you wanted the world to forget your evil



Aint going to continue evil asshole


AMERICANS WANT THE REAL HISTORY


YOUR CONSTANT LIES ABOUT BLACK AMERICA KEEPS TRYING TO KEEP US FROM A MORE PERFECT UNION


ITS OVER


YOUR LIES LOST


CLIMB INTO THE SEWER WHERE YOU BELONG RACIST


FUCK YOU VERY MUCH
 
evince said:
Again


To remind you racists what you will reap
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Your headed for a cement outcropping in the sewer dude


Not the White House


The world hates you racists
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I had never heard of it until recently (last few years). The word is confusing because there are several days in June that are numbered in the teens. It sounds childish, like the way a small child would get confused about the date of a holiday and make up his/her own word for it.

And that being said, I never heard about the horrible Tulsa massacre in public school history class either. There was plenty about the mistreatment of slaves and then freed blacks in the South post Civil War, and then the (what were current events then) going on in the 60s with the marches and passage of the Civil Rights Act. But not a single word about Tulsa. Did they want us to believe that hatred and racism magically ended after 1900, until the 1960s?
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Yes


And not all the black population heard the NEWS on that same teen number


Get it
 
leaningright said:
I have to point out, to be truthful, that most of us on the right don’t dislike Howard Zinn’s American History book because it “examines both the good and bad parts of our history,” but because he highlights the bad with subtleties made (some not so subtle) toward legitimizing and/or promoting socialism. He believed in socialism.

I don’t. Therefore I have and will oppose using his work to indoctrinate our youth. One can and should teach the truth without promoting an ideology. There are literary works and there are great teachers who do that every day.

Just wanted to clarify the “why” that many of us on the right don’t like that particular work. I fully support works that paint this country as it is, warts and all, but not those that would in any way promote socialism of the type that many want. There is a reason this guy was/is such a champion of the “left wing of the Democratic Party.”

Disclaimer: If I screwed up this post it’s because I’m trying to type it while watching the Friends reunion.
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You mean the type of socialism the founders displayed


They wrote the post office right into the constitution and didn’t care if it payed for its self


A socialistic type of program




This nation was a Hybred government that was entirely NEW to the world


Face reality
 
Sometimes memes just fail. Like," defund the police". It does not mean what it says and leaves the chanters of it with few answers to defend it. The rightys will not debate it. They will just repeat the absolute which is available to those who want to construe it badly. Almost nobody wants to cancel the police. But they do want the things they do badly to be handled by pros. They often make situations more dangerous and they end up badly.
 
Nordberg said:
Sometimes memes just fail. Like," defund the police". It does not mean what it says and leaves the chanters of it with few answers to defend it. The rightys will not debate it. They will just repeat the absolute which is available to those who want to construe it badly. Almost nobody wants to cancel the police. But they do want the things they do badly to be handled by pros. They often make situations more dangerous and they end up badly.
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Or, Defund actually means Defund.

https://briarpatchmagazine.com/artic...und-the-police

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/aoc-defund-the-police-means-defund-the-police
 
Jack said:
You may have put your foot in it this time. :(

So, now that we all know about 'The Tulsa Massacre', what should be the recourse?

Some are pissed off that the area is becoming a 'Get rich off Black History' with all the Museums and Tours.
Some are pissed off at the 'Lost Wealth' of the Families that lived there.
Some people call 'White People' the Enemy.
Some are rethinking 'integration' and 'segregation'.
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The Tulsa massacre was not the only one. Rosewood ,and Willmington come to mind. There were many others.
 
Nordberg said:
The Tulsa massacre was not the only one. Rosewood ,and Willmington come to mind. There were many others.
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Tulsa may be a test case.
If it helps, think of 'Israelis bulldozing Palestinian homes and confiscating the Land'.
This is 'Land Theft with No Compensation'.
The reason the US has Boycotted Cuba.
The reason the US helped overthrow a democratically-elected President in Chile.

This is all about 'Private Property', and 'Capitalism', ... core of the United States. (forget about the 'racial' aspect of this)
 
Gin Saké said:
Or, Defund actually means Defund.

https://briarpatchmagazine.com/artic...und-the-police

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/aoc-defund-the-police-means-defund-the-police
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A perfect example of what I said. It does not mean that, but it sounds like it. That is all rightys require. It means to cut police finding for what they do badly and put pros in charge. It is also about police accountability.
Yeah, somebody somewhere said it. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixg...efund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/
 
NiftyNiblick said:
It's not OK for progressive liberals to take populist positions like the Seditionist-Republicans do.

We hold everybody to the standards of elitist snobs, but we help them to ascend to that level if they need help doing so.

Excellence is our goal, not regular-guyism. Joe Sixpack is not our role model.

That's why regardless of our race or ethnicity, we must try to speak well, write well, and read profusely.

I don't hate words like "Juneteenth" because I'm a racist.

Regardless of race, we all aspire to sound a little smarter than that.
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With all due respect, it is indeed more than OK for liberals and progressives to take populist positions. What do you think the Civil Rights Movement was? Populism is the positions of Ignored people.

Juneteenth was meant to sound like Ebonics, thus there be no confusion where it came from. If you have a problem with Ebonics, that ain’t (eb) my problem, but it has absolutely nothing to do with you being a liberal either. Have you at least taken the time to read what Juneteenth was about before you criticized those who actually lived that time? That’s something I would be asking a conservative, not someone who calls themself a liberal. There is a reason we call ourselves African-American. We value the distinction.

I am in no way, shape, or form suggesting your thoughts are racist, but what I suggest is that as a liberal your thoughts should be more focused on substance and openness, less on regimentation and order. The ONLY purpose of language is communication, and most people with a brain can now associate Juneteenth with a serious issue. Whatever you’d rather call it would not be more effective.
 
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NiftyNiblick said:
HATES the word Juneteenth.

It sounds Ebonic and awful. I don't understand why our African American citizens don't find it demeaning.
I'm not even one myself, but I find it demeaning.
By all means, celebrate the day if it's meaningful to you.
Just give it a more dignified name.
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What is "eubonic" about juneteenth? why do you give a negative connotation to African American Vernacular English?
 
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