Is it the Democrats or the Republicans that really loves our country?

[ModernDiogenes]

This isn't really too tough of a question to answer correctly, but nonetheless lets hear your answer.


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It’s not a fact based question. We don’t know the inner workings of the individual minds.

We can judge certain things from their actions. Example: BOTH are corrupted but the Republicans seem to be more so at the moment, if only because they’ve allowed the obvious corruption of Trump to go unchecked. They have the power in both houses of Congress to do so and haven’t.

I’d rather deal with the actions. Support the ones that ,are sense, limit, negate or eliminate those that aren’t. Prosecute the ones that are criminal. This in regard to BOTH major political parties.

That makes more sense about time management than trying to determine who best loves America.

 

[WCM]

The clicks are proof?

How could you click "Like" on 72 Hamas videos from Oct 7th?

Are you completely fuckin' retarded?

The Hamas CHARTER calls for the "extermination of Jews". Not just "freedom, from the river to the sea...".

Extermination.

Any support at all of Hamas is the exact same thing as supporting the Nazis after kristallnacht, and that's on a god day, when they didn't actually accomplish anything. On the day of a slaughter parade, where children are spitting on the naked corpses of raped/murdered women, what's there to "like", lefty? WHAT IS THERE TO LIKE???????????????????????

When a group of humans is dedicated to eradicating all the men, women and children of another group, there's no level of support for them that is ok.

Would you click "Like" on 72 FB posts from Auschwitz the day after they gassed a few train-cars full of Jews? What could they possibly say on the next day that was worthy of clicking the like button for? "We just got our new kilns and they're aubergine"?


Do you understand any of this? Or is there a part that you doubt?

Be specific. This is important.

 

[AProudLefty]

How could you click "Like" on 72 Hamas videos from Oct 7th?

Are you completely fuckin' retarded?

The Hamas CHARTER calls for the "extermination of Jews". Not just "freedom, from the river to the sea...".

Extermination.

Any support at all of Hamas is the exact same thing as supporting the Nazis after kristallnacht, and that's on a god day, when they didn't actually accomplish anything. On the day of a slaughter parade, where children are spitting on the naked corpses of raped/murdered women, what's there to "like", lefty? WHAT IS THERE TO LIKE???????????????????????

When a group of humans is dedicated to eradicating all the men, women and children of another group, there's no level of support for them that is ok.

Would you click "Like" on 72 FB posts from Auschwitz the day after they gassed a few train-cars full of Jews? What could they possibly say on the next day that was worthy of clicking the like button for? "We just got our new kilns and they're aubergine"?


Do you understand any of this? Or is there a part that you doubt?

Be specific. This is important.

I asked you for proof that Democrats hate Jews.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

That's why the Republicans like to bring in tens of millions of illegals that drive down wages and drive up the rents in slums. Oh wait, that's the Dems.

Really? I’m sure all those corporate types who are the ones doing all the illegal hiring, that hang a metaphysical neon sign at our borders that says: “COME ON IN, WE ARE HIRING!”, vote Democratic.

I truly wish you guys would get reality based.

 

[WCM]

You MAGA maggots are too simple-minded

Just look at the ratio of snotty insults to established facts in your posts for some insight into what people really think of you, nomind.

You need to become way better as a human being in order to ever have any quality relationships in your life.

 

[WCM]

Bullshit.

So that, right there, is the crux of our disagreement.

You can't see any connection at all between:

• a massive influx of people who are willing to work at or below the minimum wage, and
• the cost to run a company that hires those people...

None at all?

FYI it costs less money to run a company if you give your workers less money
OMG, I can't believe I had to tell you that. I mean, I guess it shouldn't surprise me, yet somehow it still does

 

[Nomad]

Just look at the ratio of snotty insults to established facts in your posts for some insight into what people really think of you, nomind.

Says the obnoxious redneck MAGAsshole who hurls insults in every post and mislabels his own unsubstantiated garbage as "established facts".

Save your little bullshit tricks, Jethro.

Everybody is on to them.

You need to become way better as a human being in order to ever have any quality relationships in your life.

Look into one of these ....



....then repeat that word for word.

 

[WCM]

Really? I’m sure all those corporate types who are the ones doing all the illegal hiring, that hang a metaphysical neon sign at our borders that says: “COME ON IN, WE ARE HIRING!”, vote Democratic.

I truly wish you guys would get reality based.

It's just a fact that one party floods the country with illegals. We both know who that is.

It's just a fact that flooding the country with illegals has the effect of lowering wages for low-income jobs, and it creates an upward pressure on low-income housing prices.

Your only defence here is ignorance. You have to pretend to not have a basic understanding of economics to pretend that the Dems are working for low-income Americans here, and not wealthier Americans.


To me, personally, it's pretty plain to understand that a person who has gardeners, a nanny, house-cleaners, and labourers working around their property benefits greatly from an influx of low-income workers, while those new workers are in direct competition with American-born low-income workers for jobs and housing.

If you see it a different way, can you explain to us all how that works, so that we can correct all of the economics workbooks in existence?

 

[WCM]

I truly wish you guys would get reality based.

The proof of who's reality-based and who isn't is plain to see on this page.

 

[Nomad]

So that, right there, is the crux of our disagreement.

You can't see any connection at all between:

• a massive influx of people who are willing to work at or below the minimum wage, and
• the cost to run a company that hires those people...

None at all?

Nope.

It does not have the effect that your amateur, high school introduction to economics 101 level understanding of the subject tells you it does.

Keep trying.

FYI it costs less money to run a company if you give your workers less money

It costs more to run a company if you have to offer higher salaries in order to get employees due to the labor shortages caused by deporting a large portion of the labor pool.

OMG, I can't believe I had to tell you that. I mean, I guess it shouldn't surprise me, yet somehow it still does

Again ...



Tell that to the idiot looking back at you.

 

[Librtlover]

It’s not a fact based question. We don’t know the inner workings of the individual minds.

We can judge certain things from their actions. Example: BOTH are corrupted but the Republicans seem to be more so at the moment, if only because they’ve allowed the obvious corruption of Trump to go unchecked. They have the power in both houses of Congress to do so and haven’t.

I’d rather deal with the actions. Support the ones that ,are sense, limit, negate or eliminate those that aren’t. Prosecute the ones that are criminal. This in regard to BOTH major political parties.

That makes more sense about time management than trying to determine who best loves America.

What is this obvious corruption of Trump that you say goes unchecked?

 

[WCM]

Nope.

OK, stupid.

It does not have the effect that your amateur, high school introduction to economics 101 level understanding of the subject tells you it does.

Keep trying.

Yeah ok, nomind.

It costs more to run a company if you have to offer higher salaries in order to get employees due to the labor shortages caused by deporting a large portion of the labor pool.

So, in other words:

• low-income Americans make MORE money, due to a "labour shortage" that's caused by kicking non-Americans out of America and
• the wealthy Americans that own companies and theoretically profit from electing Trump actually make less money.

Seems kinda like you're proving my point for me, while you think that you're proving I'm wrong lol.

Thanks nomind. Just keep chimin' in, would ya?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

It's just a fact that one party floods the country with illegals. We both know who that is.

No we don’t. I’m a retired professional investigator. I look for motive. The corporate owners benefit from cheaper labor and bigger bottom lines. The consumer benefits for lower costs of products and services.

How do Democrats profit from people who aren’t legally allowed to vote?

It's just a fact that flooding the country with illegals has the effect of lowering wages for low-income jobs, and it creates an upward pressure on low-income housing prices.

That can be true but who benefits from that?

Your only defence here is ignorance.

That’s insulting, and I don’t need a defense. I’m not the one attempting to make a case unsubstantiated by facts.

You have to pretend to not have a basic understanding of economics to pretend that the Dems are working for low-income Americans here, and not wealthier Americans.

Again, make the case on how Democrats benefit politically from their presence. There are ethics based arguments involved on this, and I don’t agree with the takes Democrats take in their entirety on all of it, BUT the case NAGA makes on “replacement conspiracy” nonessential is just that.

To me, personally, it's pretty plain to understand that a person who has gardeners, a nanny, house-cleaners, and labourers working around their property benefits greatly from an influx of low-income workers, while those new workers are in direct competition with American-born low-income workers for jobs and housing.

And the politics of those wealthy people in average is what? What political party are they most likely to be voting for?

If you see it a different way, can you explain to us all how that works, so that we can correct all of the economics workbooks in existence?

I have. You truly want the undocumented to go away. Arrest those hiring them. It won’t take many to make the point. The hiring stops. Those looking stop coming, the fired no lomger have wages they came here for and go back where they came from as what they want isn’t here anymore. Simple. So why aren’t we doing precisely that?

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Look at the date, retard. That's from the 2024 election

That's before you guys started saying that "clicking 'Like' on 72 Hamas posts from Oct 7th is no big deal" and supporting the IRGC.

Jews had no good reason to detest the Dems 2 years ago. Now the evidence is overwhelming.[/I]

If Republicans were waiting for American Jewish voters to abandon the Democratic Party over Israel, they may be waiting a while. A new national poll of Jewish voters finds that 67% plan to vote for Democratic congressional candidates in November’s midterm elections.

Jewish, pro-Israel and still voting Democrat – here are the numbers that explain America’s Jewish voters

A new JVRC survey reveals 67% of US Jewish voters back Democrats for the 2026 midterms, prioritizing domestic issues over foreign policy regarding Israel.

allisraelnews.com

It seems since you are in a cult, you can't be bothered to actually check your "facts." This poll was conducted Aug 26 - Sept 1, 2026.

What data did your cult provide you that you think those of us living in reality should check?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

What is this obvious corruption of Trump that you say goes unchecked?

The selling of pardons. (Chinese crypto king, Medicare fraud convict, son of a million dollar contributor, etc.)

The making of deals based on the person they are being jaded with resides behind the Resolute desk. (Arab potentates, crypto business, etc)

I’m a retired cop. I’m not a fan of crime.

 

[WCM]

No we don’t. I’m a retired professional investigator. I look for motive. The corporate owners benefit for cheaper labor and bigger bottom lines. The consumer benefits for lower costs of products and services.

OMFG, dude.

Follow along...

A leftard here said that the Dems work for Americans and the GOP work for the wealthy.

So if corporate owners "benefit from cheaper labour and get bigger bottom lines" as you put it, and that's caused by Dem border/immigration policies, is that Dem policy helping the wealthier Americans, or the low-income Americans?

How do Democrats profit from people who aren’t legally allowed to vote?

Wealthy people. IE, the people served by the Democrats. they profit from a massive influx of low-income workers.

They profit from paying less for nannies, gardeners, housekeepers, labourers, etc.
When the rent goes up in their slums, they make more money.

So, at the end of the day, wealthy people pay less for labour and earn more for rent when the Dems get elected. Make sense?

Eg, they pay workers $4/hr, and earn $800 rent, instead of paying $6/hr and only getting $600 rent.

That can be true but who benefits from that?

People who have rental properties and who keep nannies, gardeners, housekeepers, labourers, etc. Wealthier people.

That’s insulting, and I dint need a defense. I’m not the one attempting to make a case unsubstantiated by facts.

Buddy, this site is rife with people who won't admit to shit.

Just look at nomind's posts on this very page. He's trying to pretend that a massive influx of cheap labour doesn't help out wealthier people.

So if you can admit that bringing in 10M low-income workers helps wealthy people, and makes life harder for low-income Americans, then we're good.

I'm just getting tired of dealing with the nominds here, and if you're not one, then my bad.

I just assumed that you were a leftist who took the name modern diogenes here because diogenes got booted for whatever. I don't wanna speculate.

Again, make the case on how Democrats benefit politically from their presence. There are ethics based arguments involved on this, and I don’t agree with the takes Democrats take in their entirety on all of it, BUT the case NAGA makes on “replacement conspiracy” nonessential is just that.

Buddy: wealthy people want more low-income workers. Period.

TBH, as a country, America can't compete with China etc if everyone makes $40/hr, so it's not just about helping wealthy people. Having some low-income workers is actually good for the country. Just not great for low-income Americans.

And the politics of those wealthy people in average is what? What political party are they most likely to be voting for?




I have. You truly want the undocumented to go away. Arrest those hiring them. It won’t take many to make the point. The hiring stops. Those looking stop coming, the fired no lomger have wages they came here for and go back where they came from as what they want isn’t here anymore. Simple. So why aren’t we doing precisely that?

I'm talking about wealthy Americans vs low-income Americans.

Less immigration is good for low-income Americans. That's pretty basic.

 

[In the Night]

Yes we Jews really look down on you white goyim maga

You are not a jew.

 

[AProudLefty]

Trump supporters are for the wealthy.
Democrats are for Americans.

 

[In the Night]

Nice cult talking point. Are you in a cult?
Cite the legislation that Dems support for "free shit" for foreigners that entered illegally.

Fraud isn't legislation, Poorboy. DON'T TRY TO DENY YOUR OWN POSTS!

Nice cult talking point. Are you in a cult?

Go learn what 'cult' means. Buzzword fallacy.

The Dems do NOT support the IRGC.

Yes they do.

Trump is the one that started a war he can't seem to win no matter how many times he tells the cult that he has won it.

Trump didn't start any war. DEMOCRATS started that war. Trump and Iran's neighbors are finally putting an end to it.

Another lovely cult talking point. Are you in the cult? You seem to be.

Go learn what 'cult' means.

Men don't get into women's sports.

Lie. Denial.

It seems you are unable to understand what a man is.

Inversion fallacy.

A ridiculous cult talking point. Are you in a cult?

Go learn what 'cult' means.

Children are not targeted for sex-change operations.

Lie. Denial.

A wild and false cult talking point.

Go learn what 'cult' means.

One simply needs to have the working brain of a three year old and not be in a cult to understand that keeping the same system doesn't make fraud easier. If anything it would keep fraud the same as it was. The fraud that is so minuscule that in spite of all the cult wailing and gnashing of teeth they can't show how it would have affected any election.

Go learn what 'cult' means.
Trivial fallacy.
Lie. Denial.
You cannot make the evidence of Democrat election fraud just disappear, Poorboy.

It seems all of those demonstrate that you are a good little cult member that has no working brain since you can only recite cult talking points and can't actually show any evidence to support your claims.

Go learn what 'cult' means.
RQAA.

 

[In the Night]

The selling of pardons.

Trump didn't sell any pardons.

(Chinese crypto king,

What is that?

Medicare fraud convict,

Medicare fraud is a crime, moron.

son of a million dollar contributor, etc.)

Random phrase ignored.

The making of deals based on the person they are being jaded with resides behind the Resolute desk. (Arab potentates, crypto business, etc)

Random words ignored. No apparent coherency.

I’m a retired cop. I’m not a fan of crime.

You were never a cop. You support rioting, arson, vandalism, organized crime, harboring illegal aliens, murder and assassinations, and discarding the Constitution of the United States and all State constitutions.