is the American dream dead?

There was no insult to you because you weren't even on the thread at that point. You just hijacked the thread to start trouble... as usual.
I just replied to her stupid insult. That's allowed, isn't it? I'm sure I've seen a couple other examples of people reply to posts that were not directly a reply to them.
 
I just replied to her stupid insult. That's allowed, isn't it? I'm sure I've seen a couple other examples of people reply to posts that were not directly a reply to them.

Don't make me laugh. You didn't address the insult; you brought up something that had nothing to do with it.
 
I left like 4 hours ago, ... are we still talking about the 'American Dream' ... I feel I might have gotten back on a different thread?
 
Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer, the author of "Us vs. Them: The Failure of Globalism," explains how the American working and middle classes haven't seen improved standards of living over the past 40 years. This has resulted in the rise in antiestablishment figures like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders — mirroring the populist wave in Europe. Following is a transcript of the video.


either discuss the subject or get the fuck out of this thread

Holy fuck, the queen of all thread derailers is pissed off when it happens to her, now that you just couldn't make up!! Do you think Desh is familiar with the word schadenfreude?
 
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for 40 years no improvement in their conditions
Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer, the author of "Us vs. Them: The Failure of Globalism," explains how the American working and middle classes haven't seen improved standards of living over the past 40 years. This has resulted in the rise in antiestablishment figures like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders — mirroring the populist wave in Europe. Following is a transcript of the video.

The rest of the world is catching up, especially in Asia. Don't you want to eradicate third world poverty. You'll just have to get used to having less, so they can have more!
 
Holy fuck, the queen of all thread derailers is pissed off when it happens to her, now that you just couldn't make up!! Do you think Desh is familiar with the word schadenfreude?

No, I don't think she is.

When Desh is crapflooding your thread with off-topic rants, please feel free to reply with any or all of these supremely ironic Desh comments:

either discuss the subject or get the fuck out of this thread

this thread is not about that

prove what you just claimed is TRUE IN The Thread you create THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THAT

get the thread titles, the post numbers and links to them all and start a thread about it and I will responded to it (unless you ban me like you chicken shits often do) this thread is not about that

I'd suggest bookmarking this post for future use. :thumbsup:
 
The welfare system is a fair point. What would you do to change it?

I would begin with requiring a high school diploma/GED for any recipient not a drooling vegetable; and a valid state issued identification card and birth certificate. If you don't have those, you're not getting a job ever, or at least one with any career trajectory in today's world.

I would require any college or university to limit tuition charged to poor students to something far more reasonable in order for any student there to receive any federal aid. I would fund and aggressively pursue/require continuing education for welfare recipients not already drawing social security or SSDI via certificate programs available at night on weekends using existing public school buildings that would include a mastery of basic computing skills, a better understanding of finance, and any other life skills that the local or state government deemed appropriate for that pool of recipients or the recipients themselves desired to pursue such as How To classes in bookkeeping, engine repair, how to start a business, etc, as a Community College for Dummies type program.

I would end the one size fits all mentality by allowing state and local government greater flexibility to experiment within benefits programs to find solutions appropriate to the poor in that area which need not be uniform across all their local poor. For some it might be workfare, for others it might be drug-testing/treatment, etc.
 
I would begin with requiring a high school diploma/GED for any recipient not a drooling vegetable; and a valid state issued identification card and birth certificate. If you don't have those, you're not getting a job ever, or at least one with any career trajectory in today's world.

I would require any college or university to limit tuition charged to poor students to something far more reasonable in order for any student there to receive any federal aid. I would fund and aggressively pursue/require continuing education for welfare recipients not already drawing social security or SSDI via certificate programs available at night on weekends using existing public school buildings that would include a mastery of basic computing skills, a better understanding of finance, and any other life skills that the local or state government deemed appropriate for that pool of recipients or the recipients themselves desired to pursue such as How To classes in bookkeeping, engine repair, how to start a business, etc, as a Community College for Dummies type program.

I would end the one size fits all mentality by allowing state and local government greater flexibility to experiment within benefits programs to find solutions appropriate to the poor in that area which need not be uniform across all their local poor. For some it might be workfare, for others it might be drug-testing/treatment, etc.

Very sound, rational ideas. I like it.
 
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She still didn't answer my question, not that any of us are surprised.

And she won't. You're right -- the *only* reason she posts on political forums is to find her betters and try to drag them down into the dank bitter mud of her sad existence. You could almost feel sorry for her, couldn't you?
 
I would begin with requiring a high school diploma/GED for any recipient not a drooling vegetable; and a valid state issued identification card and birth certificate. If you don't have those, you're not getting a job ever, or at least one with any career trajectory in today's world.

I would require any college or university to limit tuition charged to poor students to something far more reasonable in order for any student there to receive any federal aid. I would fund and aggressively pursue/require continuing education for welfare recipients not already drawing social security or SSDI via certificate programs available at night on weekends using existing public school buildings that would include a mastery of basic computing skills, a better understanding of finance, and any other life skills that the local or state government deemed appropriate for that pool of recipients or the recipients themselves desired to pursue such as How To classes in bookkeeping, engine repair, how to start a business, etc, as a Community College for Dummies type program.

I would end the one size fits all mentality by allowing state and local government greater flexibility to experiment within benefits programs to find solutions appropriate to the poor in that area which need not be uniform across all their local poor. For some it might be workfare, for others it might be drug-testing/treatment, etc.

I like that, particularly the education part. Now there are always going to be those for whom education is not the answer -- either because of IQ, learning disabilities, etc. What should we do with this population? And what about inmates? I would like to see some vocational/educational programs in prisons, perhaps led by the inmates (with outside supervision of course) who do have some education and/or skills. Maybe a program where employers, in exchange for paying them less for a year or two, would be expected to hire them despite their criminal records once they are released and continue to be compliant with their probation terms.
 
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