Is the GOP a dead party?

noise said:
please don't present to me that racism is some mass driving forve for supporting Trump.

I mentioned i'm sure it exists, but you don't get- what was it 63 million votes by racism?
thats absurd. I'm sure there were some just like I'm sure there were birthers, but not a driving force

There were many reasons I supported Trump, and people I know did the same
The fact she wasn't Hilary was a mainstay -
but Trump has a lot of ideas if you had paid attention past the noise

I am going to ignore your attack on my spirituality in favor of political talks
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Dude, I didn't attack your spirituality, but I get no sense of it.

We've just gone through your histrionics about Russia .. and you were proven wrong. On and on about how everybody else was wrong, didn't know what they were talking about .. as Trump's own administration validates what you claim didn't exist.

"I'm sure it exists" :0) That's funny.

Don't like the article .. expected .. told you that you wouldn't.
 
blackascoal said:
Dude, I didn't attack your spirituality, but I get no sense of it.

We've just gone through your histrionics about Russia .. and you were proven wrong. On and on about how everybody else was wrong, didn't know what they were talking about .. as Trump's own administration validates what you claim didn't exist.

"I'm sure it exists" :0) That's funny.

Don't like the article .. expected .. told you that you wouldn't.
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no, I have shown that Russiaphobia drives US/Russian policy.
That is the irrationality of sanctions.The mindlessness of Cold War 2 you embrace

I even offered you a long term view rather then just the noise you consume,
and you rejected out of hand as "propaganda"

Now you are trying to tell me racism is some primary force for Trump voters?
In essence you are calling 1/2 the country as being racists
 
noise said:
no, I have shown that Russiaphobia drives US/Russian policy.
That is the irrationality of sanctions.The mindlessness of Cold War 2 you embrace

I even offered you a long term view rather then just the noise you consume,
and you rejected out of hand as "propaganda"

Now you are trying to tell me racism is some primary force for Trump voters?
In essence you are calling 1/2 the country as being racists
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You claimed there was nothing there .. just phobia's .. no Russian interference. You were wrong. What you were spewing is propaganda.

You're free to hold another opinion.

I'm not trying to tell you ANYTHING. I'm posting studied analysis on the motivations of the 2016 election .. none of which you have to accept, nor is it required.

If you have questions, refer to the article .. or not.
 
blackascoal said:
You claimed there was nothing there .. just phobia's .. no Russian interference. You were wrong. What you were spewing is propaganda.

You're free to hold another opinion.

I'm not trying to tell you ANYTHING. I'm posting studied analysis on the motivations of the 2016 election .. none of which you have to accept, nor is it required.

If you have questions, refer to the article .. or not.
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nope, I QUESTION the IC assessment since it was most conjecture (which I have posted many times) without even examining the DNC's server.

But the main point is our response -whether Russians or not- is irrational and counterproductive.
We demonize instead of formulate policy to deal with them.

I have no questions abut the article, it's a farcical basis that racism is a primary mover for Trump voter. ,I'd put it around the same factor as the birthers
 
noise said:
nope, I QUESTION the IC assessment since it was most conjecture (which I have posted many times) without even examining the DNC's server.

But the main point is our response -whether Russians or not- is irrational and counterproductive.
We demonize instead of formulate policy to deal with them.

I have no questions abut the article, it's a farcical basis that racism is a primary mover for Trump voter. ,I'd put it around the same factor as the birthers
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I know .. you're smarter than the IC. :0) WRONG.

'Noise' is perfect .. I approve.
 
blackascoal said:
I know .. you're smarter than the IC. :0) WRONG.

'Noise' is perfect .. I approve.
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incorrect ..The IC doesn't set policy. It is the policy that needs to be examined.
Long term it doesn't matter if Wiki was fed a "Russian cutout" or not.
The election is over.

The US/EU/NATO/Russian relationship is what matters
 
Amadeus said:
That's why I called it a prediction. Last week 3 out of my 10 predictions came true -- and that was supposed to be over a 6 month span. I still have 5 months and 3 weeks to go.
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no....one came true.....Preibus is out........we won't know until the six months are up to see if the other two happen within six months........WE still have five months and three weeks to go.........
 
Amadeus said:
Very true, Clinton was a neo-liberal who subscribed to the political angling of 'triangulation'. He carved a third path between centrists and conservatives, and his policies (largely right-wing) very much reflected that. DOMA, criminal justice, deregulation, welfare reform, were all done to appease and co-opt conservative policies.
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It's about time someone else understands this.

It's been this way for ever.

Keep preaching the truth!
 
cawacko said:
If you didn't have an opportunity to follow the primary there was an entire #nevertrump movement and there still is you read national review, weekly standard and other assorted conservatives.

There were five democrats on this board who claimed to support Bernie yet there was almost zero, if any, discussions here between Bernie and Hillary supporters.
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Who supported Hilary during the primaries on this board?
 
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