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FYI you can't suggest anything that PLO, Fatah, Hamas etc haven't already rejected in favour of more war, and an eventual genocide against the Israelis.

They want annihilation of the Jews, and nothing less.

If you think that the Palestinians want peace then you haven't been "deceived", you're just not listening to what the PLO/Hamas and the IRGC have been saying for generations now.

The PLO even tries to overthrow the governments in countries that let them in ffs:
ok racist boomer.

:okjen:
 
Awwwww, poor "Jerry Mathers" was obliterated by a barrage of undeniable, verified facts, so now he has resorted to pure name-calling :LOL:
you had not good points.

the land was not empty.

a land without people for people without land was always a lie.

the Zionist project is now genocide.
 
you had not good points.
My points were all 100% correct.
1) Hitler is just like mohammed in terms of their violence and bigotry... The only major difference is that mohammed was a pedophile and Hitler wasn't.
2) Islam was created by mohammed. He wrote the quran. He created the sharia law, and all its evil and bigotry.
the land was not empty.
This thread isn't really about Palestine, but that partition was almost 80 years ago now, and it was very peaceful compared to Pakistani partition, which happened less than a year earlier.
  • The 1947 partition of India and Pakistan involved significantly more widespread violence, massacres, and loss of life than the 1948 partition and subsequent war in Palestine. [1, 2, 3]

    The Partition of India and Pakistan (1947)
      • Death Toll: Historians estimate that between 200,000 and 2 million people died from direct communal violence, exhaustion, starvation, and disease. [1, 2]
      • Displacement: Roughly 14 to 18 million people fled or were forced to move across newly drawn borders, creating the largest mass migration in modern history. [1, 2, 3, 4]
      • Nature of Violence: Ordinary neighbors, religious mobs, and local militias attacked one another in chaotic, brutal waves. Entire trainloads of refugees were slaughtered, and tens of thousands of women faced abduction and sexual violence. [1, 2, 3, 4]

  • The Partition and War in Palestine (1948)
      • Death Toll: The 1948 Palestine war and civil conflict resulted in an estimated 10,000 to 16,000 total deaths among Palestinian Arabs, neighboring Arab forces, and Israeli fighters.
      • Displacement: Roughly 700,000 to 750,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled from their homes during what is known as the Nakba. [1, 2, 3]
      • Nature of Violence:

When you read the above, just remember that the 1948 partition death toll includes all of the deaths from the War of Independance, where Israel was attacked by hal a dozen Arab states. If you only count violence between Arabs and Jews from the partition era, the numbers are minuscule:
  • If you isolate the intercommunal civil war that took place immediately following the UN Partition Plan vote—spanning from November 30, 1947, until May 14, 1948—the death toll is estimated to be between 2,500 and 4,000 people. [1, 2]
    This phase, often referred to by historians as the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine, occurred while the British military was still physically present but actively withdrawing. [1, 2]

    Breakdown of the Civil War Phase (Pre-May 15, 1948)
    Because records from this chaotic transition period are incomplete, historical breakdowns generally rely on British colonial data, medical logs, and paramilitary registries:
    • Palestinian Arab Casualties: Estimates generally track between 1,500 and 2,500 deaths during this six-month civil phase. This includes local urban militias, members of the Arab Liberation Army (volunteers from neighbouring nations), and hundreds of civilians killed during village operations, urban skirmishes, and retaliatory bombings. [1, 2, 3]
    • Jewish (Yishuv) Casualties: Paramilitary and civilian registries indicate approximately 1,000 to 1,500 deaths. A significant portion of these casualties occurred during Arab ambushes on isolated rural settlements or supply convoys attempting to break the siege of Jewish sectors in Jerusalem. [1, 2, 3]
When people talk about "the nabka", just remember that the number of Jews killed in the time period was very close to the number of Arabs killed in that time.

It wasn't really a nabka when you compare it to what happened in Pakistan. Pakistan was ethnically cleansed of Sikhs and Hindus, and to this day only 2% of Pakistan is Sikh or Hindu, and the ancestral religion of that land was Hindu going back 1,500 years before Christ. The muslims just massacred and raped and desecrated all that land for hundreds of years to kill Hinduism there.
the Zionist project is now genocide.
That's just more of your stupid loser bullshit, Jerry.

There would have been peace for 80 years there if the muslims weren't intent on committing genocide this whole time.

Go look at the Bill Clinton video in my last post, you wee dummy.

Furthermore, the population of all Palestine in 1940 was about 1.5M. That territory includes all of what we call Gaza, Israel, and the West Bank today.

Gaza alone had 2.2M in 2023. FYI that was not a genocide. Gazans had all of Gaza to themselves for 20 years before they attacked Israel on Oct 7th.

Now the Israelis are killing off Hamas, and they are doing an extremely good job of avoiding civilian casualties while doing so, despite all of Hamas's efforts to keep children in harm's way.

Do you think that the IDF shouldn't be allowed to kill of Hamas terrorists?
 
My points were all 100% correct.
1) Hitler is just like mohammed in terms of their violence and bigotry... The only major difference is that mohammed was a pedophile and Hitler wasn't.
2) Islam was created by mohammed. He wrote the quran. He created the sharia law, and all its evil and bigotry.

This thread isn't really about Palestine, but that partition was almost 80 years ago now, and it was very peaceful compared to Pakistani partition, which happened less than a year earlier.
  • The 1947 partition of India and Pakistan involved significantly more widespread violence, massacres, and loss of life than the 1948 partition and subsequent war in Palestine. [1, 2, 3]

    The Partition of India and Pakistan (1947)
      • Death Toll: Historians estimate that between 200,000 and 2 million people died from direct communal violence, exhaustion, starvation, and disease. [1, 2]
      • Displacement: Roughly 14 to 18 million people fled or were forced to move across newly drawn borders, creating the largest mass migration in modern history. [1, 2, 3, 4]
      • Nature of Violence: Ordinary neighbors, religious mobs, and local militias attacked one another in chaotic, brutal waves. Entire trainloads of refugees were slaughtered, and tens of thousands of women faced abduction and sexual violence. [1, 2, 3, 4]

  • The Partition and War in Palestine (1948)
      • Death Toll: The 1948 Palestine war and civil conflict resulted in an estimated 10,000 to 16,000 total deaths among Palestinian Arabs, neighboring Arab forces, and Israeli fighters.
      • Displacement: Roughly 700,000 to 750,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled from their homes during what is known as the Nakba. [1, 2, 3]
      • Nature of Violence:

When you read the above, just remember that the 1948 partition death toll includes all of the deaths from the War of Independance, where Israel was attacked by hal a dozen Arab states. If you only count violence between Arabs and Jews from the partition era, the numbers are minuscule:
  • If you isolate the intercommunal civil war that took place immediately following the UN Partition Plan vote—spanning from November 30, 1947, until May 14, 1948—the death toll is estimated to be between 2,500 and 4,000 people. [1, 2]
    This phase, often referred to by historians as the 1947–1948 Civil War in Mandatory Palestine, occurred while the British military was still physically present but actively withdrawing. [1, 2]

    Breakdown of the Civil War Phase (Pre-May 15, 1948)
    Because records from this chaotic transition period are incomplete, historical breakdowns generally rely on British colonial data, medical logs, and paramilitary registries:
    • Palestinian Arab Casualties: Estimates generally track between 1,500 and 2,500 deaths during this six-month civil phase. This includes local urban militias, members of the Arab Liberation Army (volunteers from neighbouring nations), and hundreds of civilians killed during village operations, urban skirmishes, and retaliatory bombings. [1, 2, 3]
    • Jewish (Yishuv) Casualties: Paramilitary and civilian registries indicate approximately 1,000 to 1,500 deaths. A significant portion of these casualties occurred during Arab ambushes on isolated rural settlements or supply convoys attempting to break the siege of Jewish sectors in Jerusalem. [1, 2, 3]
When people talk about "the nabka", just remember that the number of Jews killed in the time period was very close to the number of Arabs killed in that time.

It wasn't really a nabka when you compare it to what happened in Pakistan. Pakistan was ethnically cleansed of Sikhs and Hindus, and to this day only 2% of Pakistan is Sikh or Hindu, and the ancestral religion of that land was Hindu going back 1,500 years before Christ. The muslims just massacred and raped and desecrated all that land for hundreds of years to kill Hinduism there.

That's just more of your stupid loser bullshit, Jerry.

There would have been peace for 80 years there if the muslims weren't intent on committing genocide this whole time.

Go look at the Bill Clinton video in my last post, you wee dummy.

Furthermore, the population of all Palestine in 1940 was about 1.5M. That territory includes all of what we call Gaza, Israel, and the West Bank today.

Gaza alone had 2.2M in 2023. FYI that was not a genocide. Gazans had all of Gaza to themselves for 20 years before they attacked Israel on Oct 7th.

Now the Israelis are killing off Hamas, and they are doing an extremely good job of avoiding civilian casualties while doing so, despite all of Hamas's efforts to keep children in harm's way.

Do you think that the IDF shouldn't be allowed to kill of Hamas terrorists?
I think it sounds more like Ben Shapiro.
 
I think it sounds more like Ben Shapiro.
You think that Ben Shapiro chopped the heads off of people and forced their wives and children into rape-slavery, and married a small child? Do you have proof of that? Because I can prove mohammed did it.

And why do you think that's even bad? Isn't it a sin for you to think that there was something wrong with mohammed's behaviour?
 
You think that Ben Shapiro chopped the heads off of people and forced their wives and children into rape-slavery, and married a small child? Do you have proof of that? Because I can prove mohammed did it.

And why do you think that's even bad? Isn't it a sin for you to think that there was something wrong with mohammed's behaviour?
I'm sure he was an insane asshole.
 
At the opposite ends of the morality spectrum of the Abrahamic faith there are:
  1. Christians... their messiah was an impossible goodie-goodie who allegedly had the power to commit miracles, and he used them to help other people.
  2. Muslims... their prophet was a violent religious bigot who killed for money, chopped the heads off of people who refused to convert to his religion, forced women and children into rape-slavery, married a small child and had sex with her before puberty, and created a law where old men were allowed to marry small children that is still practised in modernized muslim countries today.
Catholics and Jews fall slightly towards the middle from the Christian side.

All of the groups have some blood on their hands, but depravity and amorality are cornerstones of the islamic faith.
 
Touché. And then, ironically, they try to claim the moral high-ground...

Leftism is grounded in nothing but situational ethics. For example, leftists praise and defend Islamists who beleive and practice acts that leftist ideology (which is a quasi-religion itself, IMO) proscribes and condemns.
 
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