moon
Satire for Sanity
That would surely be ' typing slow ' so that you can understand yourself.
Jewish study results; Jews and Arabs Share Genetic Link to Ancient Canaanites
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That would surely be ' typing slow ' so that you can understand yourself.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Well if there is, he certainly didn't authorize the Bible, because biblical history is objectively wrong.
moon
Satire for Sanity
There was a god before psychiatry .
Which was my point, your study only told them that their texts were "true", like proving to them that 2+2=4. It's stupid to think that this would cause anything at all to happen. No wringing of the hands, etc. both groups already believe that according to their texts that they were genetically linked. You are truly a "special" folk, eh?
moon
Satire for Sanity
You are giving these people credit for more intelligence than they have. Yourself too, apparently. The Jews, for example, claim that they are ' chosen ' Millions of dumb Americans agree. How do they imagine that they are superior to others when they are actually the same people ? This feat of self-elevation- which I'm sure you'll be familiar with- is achieved by means of willful ignorance.
So- millions of dumb Americans are faced with a genetic study which proves that the people they have been.. er..' educated' to revile- whose very existence they have been brainwashed to deny- are actually the same people as those who they have been conditioned to believe are spiritually blessed.
I think you're going to have a great deal of difficulty in navigating your cart of manure up the slope. Even if they do ' know ' that their chosen tribes are descended from 'Iranians' then, outside of a few genuine scholars, they are most certainly not going to acknowledge it.
2=2=4 eh ?
Haw, haw.....................haw.
MSgt
A Leader of Airmen
Do the fuckers follow the Law?
moon
Satire for Sanity
The ' Chosen ' ones follow their own. Unless it's inconvenient. Then they write a different one.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Source?
will you be providing supporting evidence??
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham%27s_family_tree#Family_tree
So according to the Bible, Ishmael was the patriarch of the Arabs, and Jacob was the patriarch of the Jews. You can see here how he smashed four different women to create the twelve tribes of Israel. Meanwhile, Ham is the patriarch of the Canaanites. This means that, according to the Bible, the Arabs and the Jews are not descended from the Canaanites.
This contradicts the genetic and archaeological evidence that the original Israelites started out as a tribe that broke away from the Canaanites.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites
"Based on the archaeological evidence, according to the modern archaeological account, the Israelites and their culture did not overtake the region by force, but instead branched out of the indigenous Canaanite peoples that long inhabited the Southern Levant, Syria, ancient Israel, and the Transjordan region[8][9][10]"
It's also interesting that the original Israelites were polytheistic, since this disproves the biblical accounts of the one true god regularly talking to the Israelites. If this was true, then the Israelites would have always been monotheistic.
They did not take the entire Levant........ Even the Bible says that..... They did not kill everyone....... Ppl married in, as the bible says from various surrounding ppls, not directly related to Abraham.....
There was some recent DNA surprises in Lebanon.. They found some Canaanite graves & were able to extract DNA....... This DNA is a match for ppl living there today-generally the Christians, & then mostly Maronite.............
Oddly enough most Christians there identify as Phoenician, while most Muslims identify as Arab.... Genetically most Muslims DNA does lead south to Arabia, Christian not so much........
Unearthed Canaanite Graves Shed Light On Descendants In Lebanon
August 12, 20177:55 AM ET
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Ruth Sherlock
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DNA analysis of an ancient burial ground shows that today's Lebanese are genetic descendants of the biblical Canaanites. That has some Lebanese re-evaluating their fractured identity.
SCOTT SIMON, HOST:
You may recall the Canaanites from the Bible. God called for them to be annihilated. Little is known about them thereafter. But an archaeological dig has provided Canaanite DNA indicating that modern day Lebanese are their descendants. NPR's Ruth Sherlock reports that doesn't sit well with everyone.
RUTH SHERLOCK, BYLINE: In the heart of the Lebanese city of Saida, there's an archaeological dig that takes you back through centuries of Lebanon's past.
CLAUDE DOUMET-SERHAL: So now, we're walking down.
SHERLOCK: Dr. Claude Doumet Serhal is the director of the site, and she's worked here for 19 years. They have unearthed Canaanite graves.
DOUMET-SERHAL: This is the Canaanite area.
SHERLOCK: The archaeologists gently brush sand and mud from bones some 4,000 years old.
DOUMET-SERHAL: I'm going to lift this to show you.
SHERLOCK: Serhal lifts a cloth to uncover a child's skeleton still in the ground.
DOUMET-SERHAL: You can see here the cranium of a child. And you can see the bowl that was buried with the child.
SHERLOCK: Serhal partnered with an international group of geneticists to take DNA samples from this burial ground, and they compared them to the DNA of 99 people from around Lebanon. They concluded that modern day Lebanese are the descendants of Canaanites.
DOUMET-SERHAL: Alexander the Great invaded. The Romans invaded. The Arabs invade. But the people are the people, and the DNA proves it.
SHERLOCK: This might not sound so remarkable, but back in Beirut, I decided to tell some Lebanese about the study. And I found that the idea that they are all one people is controversial. That's because Lebanon is divided between religious sects. There are Sunni and Shia Muslims and Christians, and they all live in separate enclaves. The divisions run so deep that many insist they are even different ethnicities. I meet Ghadi Moussa, a Lebanese student in the lush gardens of the American University of Beirut.
GHADI MOUSSA: Lebanese people are so confused about their nationality. And it's something that Lebanese people have been fighting about for so long. Like, the Muslims think that's their area. The Christians think that they come from a different - I don't know.
SHERLOCK: In a coffee shop, Naji Mokh, a poet, tells me about how he broke up with a girlfriend because of an argument over their heritage. She was Christian. He's Muslim. He considered them both to be ethnic Arabs, but she insisted that she was Phoenician, which is another name for Canaanites.
NAJI MOKH: She told me that she was not Arabic. She is Phoenician. So I was mad at her. Then I split with her because of that.
SHERLOCK: Zulphi Qar Qubaisi, a local journalist, overhears us talking, and he beckons me over to tell me what he thinks about the study. He says so many powers have conquered Lebanon throughout the ages that it's not possible for the population to descend from one people.
ZULPHI QAR QUBAISI: I think it's a sort of impossibility that anybody can decide the mosaic or kaleidoscope of the Lebanese society.
SHERLOCK: He even thinks that the study is a plot to convince people that Lebanon is not an Arab country. But Pierre Zalloua, a co-author of the DNA study, tells me that sectarianism is exactly what he wants to discourage. He's a geneticist at the Lebanese American University.
PIERRE ZALLOUA: I want to use genetics to show them how rich their culture is and how proud they should be of their culture.
SHERLOCK: He wants to show that identity is about more than religion, but he says there is some research now that shows that religious division is starting to show in people's DNA.
ZALLOUA: Now, today, however, if you look at the DNA of let's say various religions, yes, there is a difference. Yes, you could tell them apart. Why? Because they have been living in separation for a long time.
SHERLOCK: He calls it genetic drift. He says the Lebanese survived for centuries as one people, but now, slowly, that is starting to change. Ruth Sherlock, NPR News, Beirut.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Yeah, I'm not saying they invaded and took over the entire region. I'm saying that the Bible says the Israelites as a people don't directly descend from the Canaanites, even though we now know that they do.
Noah had three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Supposedly, the Israelites come from the Shem line, but the Canaanites come from the Ham line. If this was accurate, the Israelites would have also come from the Ham line.
Mason Michaels
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I have never seen DNA evidence supporting that.......... Have you??
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
Atheism is a lack of a belief in a god. We accept anything is possible, we just don't pretend to know like religious people do.
StoneByStone
It's OK to Be White
The DNA shows that Jews and Arabs are closely related to the Canaanites, but it can't really prove which tribe came first, or who came from who. We know that the Jews and Arabs came from the Canaanites because of archaeology and culture.
Mason Michaels
Verified User
What do religious people have to do with God?
Some atheist,you either are sure their is no God.
Now it's maybe not.
What a joke you are!
A complete lie on your part. There's "lack of belief" and then there's a declaration that something doesn't exist. Two completely different statements. When you said God is "a myth", that's a declaration of fact, not just disbelief. You are just like the Bible thumpers, but playing for the opposite team.
No, we don't know that. @ least I don't....
Archeology nor culture is DNA.........
I know of no DNA evidence supporting that... If you happen to find some I would greatly appreciate seeing it, thnx