Joe Biden has shifted left

Hello Cinnabar,



Ya know if he gets the public option it will be a deathknell for rip-off insurance companies.

Not good enough and all because we have so-called representatives who are beholden to their donors. I don't get so easily pacified or placated and settle for corruption, regardless of how moderate. And who told you there will be a Public Option...wishful thinking?
 
But he will veto Med4All. Anyone would have handled this crisis better than the malicious village idiot Trump but Biden is a corporate tool so screw him as well.

It takes a REAL village idiot to want their healthcare managed by Government. :palm:
 
Not really. Moderate centrism is not where our nation is.

There is nothing moderate about radical mobs burning and looting cities and tearing down monuments they didn't pay for or choose to put up. There is nothing moderate about the Democratic Party of the Jackass and their radical desire to take over half the economy and turn this nation into a third world shit hole like Venezuela.

If you had a brain, you could comprehend the OBVIOUS. But you're an idiot who will vote for a geriatric with dementia this fall. :palm:
 
Hello Cinnabar,

Not good enough and all because we have so-called representatives who are beholden to their donors. I don't get so easily pacified or placated and settle for corruption, regardless of how moderate. And who told you there will be a Public Option...wishful thinking?

Biden has said it.

And baby steps. We have to drag the reluctant ones along.

After the public option puts the greedy insurance industry out of business we'll have our government run plan - for the good of all.
 
Not really. Moderate centrism is not where our nation is.

2019:

Liberal: 24%
Conservative: 37%
Moderate:35%

https://news.gallup.com/poll/275792/remained-center-right-ideologically-2019.aspx

My point was while Democrats should be able to beat Trump in 2020, they are in danger of losing that advantage because of Biden and now the violence and looting and pulling down monuments which is causing a backlash. An article today talked about the lack of enthusiasm for Biden by Hispanics.
 
Don't agree at all.

You think the violent mobs and pulling down monuments is gaining support for Democrats?

The 7 million third party votes in 2016 were not happy with Clinton or Trump. I don't think violence is going to attract a majority of those third party voters. Legally choosing to remove some monuments is one thing but talking about removing Washington or Jefferson monuments is not supported and many things people see as trivial symbolism such as changing the names of military bases goes too far for many people. It is not that they support monuments or base names, but they don't like being told they have to change because somebody is offended.

Do you also disagree with the Gallup Poll showing moderate centrism is exactly where the nation is?
 
You think the violent mobs and pulling down monuments is gaining support for Democrats?

The 7 million third party votes in 2016 were not happy with Clinton or Trump. I don't think violence is going to attract a majority of those third party voters. Legally choosing to remove some monuments is one thing but talking about removing Washington or Jefferson monuments is not supported and many things people see as trivial symbolism such as changing the names of military bases goes too far for many people. It is not that they support monuments or base names, but they don't like being told they have to change because somebody is offended.

Do you also disagree with the Gallup Poll showing moderate centrism is exactly where the nation is?

The "violent mobs" were demanding justice and many states changed the way they police. Most Americans are sympathetic.

Trump is a fascist and hardly representing the temperament of the people as "moderate centrism."
 
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