Is the supposed vaccine the same vaccine that Trump said he was responsible for developing, that his Operation Warp Speed was aimed at creating?
Lying Weasel Fauci's Infatuation with Fame, While People were Dying
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The measles epidemic says "natural immunity" can be proven. MAGAts don't care how many children suffer and die. This is why I know all MAGAts are evil and have chosen to follow Satan over God.
I'm currently following the Rand Paul's revenge trial against Fauci. This is what my beloved Republican Party has become: a bunch of whiny POS who would rather fix blame than fix problems.
True? "Fauci said it didn't come from the wet markets. He never said it came from the Wuhan lab."
Mostly no, with important nuance from both public statements and recently released private notes.
Fauci did not publicly state that COVID-19 “didn’t come from the wet markets.” Early on (and for a long time afterward), the dominant public narrative he supported was a natural zoonotic spillover, frequently linked to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan (the main wet market associated with early cases). He called for shutting down wet markets because of the human-animal interface risks and described the science as consistent with a species jump from animal to human.
In private diary notes from late January 2020 (released in 2026 via Sen. Rand Paul’s investigation), Fauci wrote that epidemiological and genomic data indicated the first infection was in early December 2019 and “was not connected to the market,” calling the market an “amplifier” rather than the source. He still framed it as a jump from animals to humans somewhere. Those private reflections conflicted with the stronger public emphasis on market-linked natural origin that continued for years.
On the lab side of the claim: Correct—he never said it came from the Wuhan lab. He consistently favored a natural origin. In 2020 he described lab-related ideas (especially engineered or deliberately released versions) in terms that treated them as lacking scientific basis or as conspiracy theories. Later he said he kept an open mind that a lab leak was possible, while maintaining that the most likely scenario remained animal-to-human spillover and that viruses studied under certain NIH-linked work could not have been the progenitor of SARS-CoV-2. He never affirmed a Wuhan Institute of Virology origin.
In short: The claim overstates a clear public rejection of the wet-market origin (his public stance aligned with natural/market-associated spillover far more than rejection of it) while accurately noting that he never endorsed a Wuhan lab origin. The private January 2020 notes show earlier private skepticism that the market was the source, but that did not translate into public statements declaring it did not come from the markets or that it came from a lab. The scientific debate over origins remains unresolved with competing lines of evidence.
Fauci on COVID Origins: Wet Markets | Shared Grok Conversation
True? "Fauci said it didn't come from the wet markets. He never said it came from the Wuhan lab."
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Some did, some didn’t, but bottom line, who cares where it came from
How does one develop a natural immunity to a novel virus?
Do you ever post anything that is true or accurate?
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But in interviews throughout 2020 and 2021, Fauci maintained that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, did, in fact, originate in the Wuhan wet market.
A now-infamous Feb. 1, 2020, phone call that included at least 11 other scientists also debated the origins of COVID, with all but two participants leaning toward a natural spillover from animals to humans.
“[T]he rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible and given the fact that Dr. Zheng-Li Shi at the University of Wuhan has been working for years in GOF [gain of function] in coronaviruses to allow adaptation of the spike protein to bind to the human ACE2 receptor, we could not let this go,” Fauci wrote.}
Dr. Anthony Fauci ruled out Wuhan market origin for COVID-19 in private diary entries
The ex-NIAID director as late as June 2024 claimed that one of the Wuhan wet markets was the most likely origin of the coronavirus.
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I'm curious, do you see yourself as lying, or do you think that because your blatant lies serve the party, that reality must realign to match the lies you tell?
Again with the moronic lies.
The SARS-COV2 development is 100% confirmed to have been bioengineered in the Wuhan Viroimunology center. Where they were studying gain of function in conjunction with Dr.
More musk, the comedy never endsTrue? "Fauci said it didn't come from the wet markets. He never said it came from the Wuhan lab."
Mostly no, with important nuance from both public statements and recently released private notes.
Fauci did not publicly state that COVID-19 “didn’t come from the wet markets.” Early on (and for a long time afterward), the dominant public narrative he supported was a natural zoonotic spillover, frequently linked to the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan (the main wet market associated with early cases). He called for shutting down wet markets because of the human-animal interface risks and described the science as consistent with a species jump from animal to human.
In private diary notes from late January 2020 (released in 2026 via Sen. Rand Paul’s investigation), Fauci wrote that epidemiological and genomic data indicated the first infection was in early December 2019 and “was not connected to the market,” calling the market an “amplifier” rather than the source. He still framed it as a jump from animals to humans somewhere. Those private reflections conflicted with the stronger public emphasis on market-linked natural origin that continued for years.
On the lab side of the claim: Correct—he never said it came from the Wuhan lab. He consistently favored a natural origin. In 2020 he described lab-related ideas (especially engineered or deliberately released versions) in terms that treated them as lacking scientific basis or as conspiracy theories. Later he said he kept an open mind that a lab leak was possible, while maintaining that the most likely scenario remained animal-to-human spillover and that viruses studied under certain NIH-linked work could not have been the progenitor of SARS-CoV-2. He never affirmed a Wuhan Institute of Virology origin.
In short: The claim overstates a clear public rejection of the wet-market origin (his public stance aligned with natural/market-associated spillover far more than rejection of it) while accurately noting that he never endorsed a Wuhan lab origin. The private January 2020 notes show earlier private skepticism that the market was the source, but that did not translate into public statements declaring it did not come from the markets or that it came from a lab. The scientific debate over origins remains unresolved with competing lines of evidence.
Fauci on COVID Origins: Wet Markets | Shared Grok Conversation
True? "Fauci said it didn't come from the wet markets. He never said it came from the Wuhan lab."
The same way natural immunity develops to any newly encountered pathogen: you become infected, your immune system responds, and some immune memory remains afterward.
“Novel virus” means humans had not previously encountered that specific virus widely. It does not mean the immune system is incapable of learning from infection. The real debate was never whether natural immunity existed—it obviously did—but how durable it was and whether deliberately relying on widespread infection was a wise public-health strategy.
That is also the basic principle behind vaccination—present the immune system with an antigen so it learns what to recognize. The difference is the method and risk of exposure, not some magical distinction where vaccines can teach the immune system but infection cannot.
You are not arguing against natural immunity. You are describing it and somehow failing to recognize
Oh, was it "found nothing:" that led to the Junta giving him a blanket pardon?
Do you ever THINK before you post, Arachnid?
Good question.
Poor Anchovies.
Regardless of what is said, you got to have to tip your hat to Fauci, Paul tries again to catch him with something by relitigating the past and Fauci pulls the rug out from beneath him by taking the 5th over and over again. And on top of that, Paul throws Fauci’s attorney out, which he had the right to do, but makes for bad theater. Rand is going to be pissed tonight
Other than sound bites on Fox and winger media, much to do about nothing
Other than sound bites on Fox and winger media, much to do about nothing
I always thought it funny the way the drones of the Marxist hive swarm to defend the "not a vaccine" since it was Trump who brought it about.
Will you be rewriting history now, as the hive so often does?
Yakuda
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Yes the same one the kamal harris said she wouldnt take because she didnt trust trump and then later tried to force on everyone. Covid had a 98% recovery rate. We didnt need a vaccine but filthy fauci made a shit load of money with it. There is too little actually justice in this life
Yakuda
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Harris was asked if she would take it she said no because she didnt trust trump but when brandon took office they wanted to force it on everyone
ZenMode
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Again.... Fauci never said it came from the lab. Even if it did come from the Wuhan, there's no reason to believe it was INTENTIONALLY released.Do you ever post anything that is true or accurate?
{
But in interviews throughout 2020 and 2021, Fauci maintained that SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, did, in fact, originate in the Wuhan wet market.
A now-infamous Feb. 1, 2020, phone call that included at least 11 other scientists also debated the origins of COVID, with all but two participants leaning toward a natural spillover from animals to humans.
“[T]he rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible and given the fact that Dr. Zheng-Li Shi at the University of Wuhan has been working for years in GOF [gain of function] in coronaviruses to allow adaptation of the spike protein to bind to the human ACE2 receptor, we could not let this go,” Fauci wrote.}
Dr. Anthony Fauci ruled out Wuhan market origin for COVID-19 in private diary entries
The ex-NIAID director as late as June 2024 claimed that one of the Wuhan wet markets was the most likely origin of the coronavirus.
I'm curious, do you see yourself as lying, or do you think that because your blatant lies serve the party, that reality must realign to match the lies you tell?
Again with the moronic lies.
The SARS-COV2 development is 100% confirmed to have been bioengineered in the Wuhan Viroimunology center. Where they were studying gain of function in conjunction with Dr.Joseph MengeleAnthony Fauci.
The "intentionally released" angle is the brain-child of conspiracy theorists.
BSL 4 is the highest level of lab security in the world. The Wuhan lab is BSL 4. There are also other BSL 4 labs in the world and they have had multiple accidents.
